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Buran

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New temperature and UV sensors??

Saw this article, got me thinking temp too

https://bgr.com/2018/08/31/apple-watch-series-4-release-date-close-leak-reveals-new-uv-index-app/

The UV reading is likely from a data provider like Weather Underground, Dark Sky, Yahoo, Weather Channel, etc. (So far, the stock app has used Weather Channel; before that, Yahoo Weather).

I use Carrot Weather -- I like its interface, watch complications, and features -- and use Weather Underground as my data source, though you can also select Dark Sky. It does have the ability to display UV index as measured by the nearest weather station. Right now, it's showing 5. No onboard sensor required, the reading is not skewed by being indoors, in a car (car windows are coated to block UV), et cetera. The complication can also be set to show this data, so the ability to do this with the stock app is what's new along with the design of the face.
 
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PeteS1963

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Can’t believe it’s a temperature sensor. Back in the late 1990’s I had a Casio watch with a temp sensor. It was next to useless as body/wrist heat would always put the readings way off.
 
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douglasf13

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I'm assuming it's a mic. I always thought it was strange to have the original mic pointing towards the elbow, because it gets covered more easily when wearing a jacket (I wear my Watch reversed.)
 

JPack

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Microphone #2 for better Siri performance.

iPhone has 4 microphones so I expect Watch to have at least 2.
 

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I'm assuming it's a mic. I always thought it was strange to have the original mic pointing towards the elbow, because it gets covered more easily when wearing a jacket (I wear my Watch reversed.)

Excellent point. The first microphone wasn’t the best location as you indicated, because it gets covered more easily when raising your wrist and the relocation of this microphone seemingly would make it less of an issue between the digital crown and power button without being obstructed.
 
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Vanilla35

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I was going to say a second mic for improved voice recognition, but it could also just be a relocated mic as another person pointed out. They did shift internals somewhat greatly this year due to solid state crown button, redesigned logic board, and larger battery. I'd still say it's more likely to be a second mic, but could simply be a relocated one as well.
 
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JPack

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I'm assuming it's a mic. I always thought it was strange to have the original mic pointing towards the elbow, because it gets covered more easily when wearing a jacket (I wear my Watch reversed.)

The first microphone is actually in an ideal position facing the elbow.

By hiding it under clothing, the microphone is offered significant protection from wind and breathing, especially since there is only one microphone. This is not a design flaw Apple overlooked.

If you ask acoustic technicians, most types of clothing like woven cotton do not attenuate human vocal frequencies.
 

matrix07

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The first microphone is actually in an ideal position facing the elbow.

By hiding it under clothing, the microphone is offered significant protection from wind and breathing, especially since there is only one microphone. This is not a design flaw Apple overlooked.

If you ask acoustic technicians, most types of clothing like woven cotton do not attenuate human vocal frequencies.

Plus for long conversation lifting your entire arm up to talk for long period will be too tired because your elbow will be at uncomfortable angle. What I did was taking off the watch to speak. Much more manageable. And in this scenario the speaker and the microphone appears to be on the same side so you can hear and talk clearly at the same time.

My 2 cents is like others, an additional microphone for noise canceling and/or other purposes.
 

douglasf13

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The first microphone is actually in an ideal position facing the elbow.

By hiding it under clothing, the microphone is offered significant protection from wind and breathing, especially since there is only one microphone. This is not a design flaw Apple overlooked.

If you ask acoustic technicians, most types of clothing like woven cotton do not attenuate human vocal frequencies.

I’m talking when I’m wearing multiple layers and a rain jacket or parka.

I’ve worn my Watch in the “reverse” direction with the mic pointing out for years, and I don’t have to raise my arm to talk.
 

JPack

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I’m talking when I’m wearing multiple layers and a rain jacket or parka.

I’ve worn my Watch in the “reverse” direction with the mic pointing out for years, and I don’t have to raise my arm to talk.

Yes, for extreme circumstances, you're probably wearing it right. But as usual, these devices are designed in California.
 

Shore242

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My guess is that it is not a second mic but a relocated single one because on The old model the mic is exactly across from the button which definately looks more flat than before. I guess in this place now sits the second button needed for ecg
 

douglasf13

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Yes, for extreme circumstances, you're probably wearing it right. But as usual, these devices are designed in California.

Extreme circumstances? That’s the kind of thing much of the country wears in the winter, which is why I think it may be a mic aiming forward.
 

tonoboon

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New Apple Watch Series 4 come with UV Censor
can detect UV Index as show on new Watch face , Grand Complications. UV Censor place left of the screen and relocate the mic to be under Digital Crown.
The UV censor can detect UV light on skin and make notification to user no avoid sun light or get the sunscreen when workouts.
The UV censor will come with Apple Watch ceramic back model and also the new watch face .
Available to order on 14th Sep and shipped on 21th Sep

Facebook.com/AppleWatchTH
 

Shore242

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New Apple Watch Series 4 come with UV Censor
can detect UV Index as show on new Watch face , Grand Complications. UV Censor place left of the screen and relocate the mic to be under Digital Crown.
The UV censor can detect UV light on skin and make notification to user no avoid sun light or get the sunscreen when workouts.
The UV censor will come with Apple Watch ceramic back model and also the new watch face .
Available to order on 14th Sep and shipped on 21th Sep

Facebook.com/AppleWatchTH
Dont think so. Did you notice stock Weather app already shows uv index?
And by the way who needs that? I apply sun protection anyway
 
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