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holy crap is vista like os x!
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It's sort of like philosophy; if everyone builds off each other's advancements, progress is enhanced.
Quoted for absolute ****ing truth.
BeOS' BeFS had unlimited, extensible, live-indexed metadata on every file in its 64-bit filesystem years and years before anyone else was pursuing these sorts of things. Live searching, saved searches with real-time updating... pretty much everything that Spotlight attempts to do, done better, 10 years ago.
But, Apple has Dominic Giampolo now, the guy who designed BeFS, and I'd imagine he's helping the Spotlight team get their stuff together.
I STILL love that little OS.
You're kidding?
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
How could you let this happen?
I trust you'll fix it and get back to us S.T.A.T.
I'm shocked. SHOCKED!
How could you let this happen?
I trust you'll fix it and get back to us S.T.A.T.
I hope so. Spotlight is, to me, just a pain, and I miss the simple search of 10.3.
Osx was the operating system of tomorrow, but that was yesterday. so the operating systems of today, would show resemblances.
Name one photo application that had it before iPhoto. Steve Jobs went out of his way to say it was the only app out there that had that feature. The technology in spotlight premiered in itunes, it was was the basis for Spotlight. iTunes had been around years before Google Desktop. (Yes Beos had a similar deal even earlier, so we can argue that point.)
when i say i doubt, i didn't mean im sure. buy ok, if u like, i will try to do some digging, see if i can find anything.
about iTunes, u are now saying iTunes is the first, but if u wanna compare vista copy OSX's spotlight, then an app's own search might not be enough.
anyway, i will do some digging on this too,
of course, when i got time, i will post back and let u know my findings.
edit, i appreciate if u can provide me information about
1 when spotlight released?
2 when ur similar function iTunes released?
3 when slide-bar resize of photo released?
ok, first link i found is google filed patent request for a desktop search concept in 2003, sure before spotlight. I still need to find out if copernic is earlier.
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20050097089&OS=20050097089&RS=20050097089
still, i think ur iTunes argument is too far reach, but if you just want to stick to iTunes invented desktop search. I won't argue with you on that.
about slidbar resize, i just remembered, in photoshop's navigation panel, there is a slidebar can do zoom of the view, i saw the slidebar in photoshop 6.0, which is around 1999, not sure before that. But iPhoto was first release in 2001. u make the judgment.
http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...&s1=20050097089&OS=20050097089&RS=20050097089
still, i think ur iTunes argument is too far reach, but if you just want to stick to iTunes invented desktop search. I won't argue with you on that.
about slidbar resize, i just remembered, in photoshop's navigation panel, there is a slidebar can do zoom of the view, i saw the slidebar in photoshop 6.0, which is around 1999, not sure before that. But iPhoto was first release in 2001. u make the judgment.
personally, i do find similarities, but it's better to look at the operating system as a whole, and see which one's better. i don't mind copying, and actually, i encourage it. i use windows and OSX, and sometimes there's features in osx that i want in windows xp for my productivity and vice versa. why does a feature have to so exclusive?
microsoft has been analysing the market, and noticing the changes since 2001. digital cameras are widely used, calculation, stockmarket, and news should be easilly accessible, and etc. now, the most reliable and recent os is OSX, so that operating sytem is the base for inspiration and ideas for it's new operating system. some of apple's ideas are so "duh" that it's not really an innovation for example. instant search is something that many people would have figured out without apple.
apple, linux, third party, and microsoft are all bring ideas on the table, and the other group will try to see if they can use it or make it better. some ideas have failed, and other companies or people have revived the idea and made it even better. take the newton for example.
other times, one group will have a successful idea, and another group will try to take the throne away from them. take SLI and crossfire from the graphics card war.
microsoft has been analysing the market, and noticing the changes since 2001. digital cameras are widely used, calculation, stockmarket, and news should be easilly accessible, and etc. now, the most reliable and recent os is OSX, so that operating sytem is the base for inspiration and ideas for it's new operating system. some of apple's ideas are so "duh" that it's not really an innovation for example. instant search is something that many people would have figured out without apple.
apple, linux, third party, and microsoft are all bring ideas on the table, and the other group will try to see if they can use it or make it better. some ideas have failed, and other companies or people have revived the idea and made it even better. take the newton for example.
other times, one group will have a successful idea, and another group will try to take the throne away from them. take SLI and crossfire from the graphics card war.
Are you referring to the slidebar that resizes your view on ONE photo? Because that's completely different from having it resize a bunch of thumbnails simultaneously...
It's not the idea of having a slidebar to resize something, it's that you can resize the thumbnails all at once.
dswoodley's quote
heck, u can always say there is something different, of course, no two products are exactly same, but to talk about the concept, i think he wasn't talking about what you just mentioned.
my point is simple, i don't call apple copy even if they borrow 70% of code of safari from Konqueror or when they borrow major code from BSD, and i don't call any other ppl copy neither when they adopt an idea of doing something, think about it, there are multiple desktop search apps at windows platform (copernic, google, yahoo, msn, aol), im sure one of them is earlier than others, but nobody use the word "copy" to bash others.
I actually agree with the guy said above, these are ideas, and the exchange of ideas are always good for users, apple did not invent everything, and the word of copy is simply a PR campaign, more or less false. PPl can just go back and show why they think a certain product is better, practically, no need to accuse opponent of "copying".
didn't apple steal ideas from Xerox? Thats what they used to say when I worked at Xerox.
They used the ideas that went unused and many of the people who worked at Xerox PARC left. Apple created the Macintosh with help from Bill Atkinson and others. John Warnock left Xerox created Adobe and PostScript, the page description language for printers. 3com was also created by an ex-Xerox PARC researcher and started the Ethernet revolution in networking.
No, they didn't but they hired employees from Xerox PARC.
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recent leopard screenshot
16 shots
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40523206@N00/?saved=1
newest build
will get some vista screenshots when done downloading it
tell me if you want more screenshots of any application