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Exactly this! I don’t see what people’s issue with this is, you can buy one of these and try it with 14 days return no questions asked! It’s only £319 hardly Apple’s most expensive product.
Even if some takes your suggestion, it shouldn't absolve Apple or any vendor of the responsibility of informing customers about the details of their products. We shouldn't be in a forum guessing what the product will/won't do.
 
If sound quality doesn't matter to you, you don't. To me HomePod's voice features are barely relevant - sound quality is all I care about.
I think you meant Apple is all you care about. Because if it was truly only about sound quality, there are many options that best HomePod, albeit not from Apple.



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Even if some takes your suggestion, it shouldn't absolve Apple or any vendor of the responsibility of informing customers about the details of their products. We shouldn't be in a forum guessing what the product will/won't do.

I think we are pretty clear about what it will do, it’s a speaker first with some assistant capabilities, the multi room and stereo pair feature will come later this year.
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I think you meant Apple is all you care about. Because if it was truly only about sound quality, there are many options that best HomePod, albeit not from Apple.



Mike

And that’s the problem, for a lot of people it’s about the Apple ecosystem.
 
During an apple team meeting:

"Guys, I've been on MacRumors and they are pretty much roasting the Homepod. We need an angle. What should we do?"

They go around the room and everyone is scratching their heads until someone shouts...

"Security! What security feature do we have or can we come up with so we can shout it as loud as we can? Apple users love the word security as much as they love magical!"
 
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It really does baffle me that Apple is targeting HomePod for it's 30 million AM subscribers rather than it's hundreds of millions of device users. I mean all those Apple device users have had lots of time to sign up for AM but declined. Does Apple think a speaker more expensive than the Echo but with less features other than "superior sound" is going to convince the rest of us when that speaker with Siri can't do much else?
I look at like this. Amazon didn't have a device platform with hundreds of millions of users. They tried to introduce one a few years ago with the Fire phone, which failed. The Echo line was their comeback attempt, and their strategy was to get as many cheap devices into the marketplace as possible. The strategy was to outflank both Apple and Google, who already had ecosystems.

As an iPhone and Apple Watch owner, I don't need another device with Siri because Siri is always with me now. I will buy a HomePod because it's from a company I like, and I don't currently have any nice speakers. Siri on the speaker isn't the reason I'll buy it. It's just icing on the cake.
 
If sound quality doesn't matter to you, you don't. To me HomePod's voice features are barely relevant - sound quality is all I care about.

To people who are truly serious about sound quality they don't listen to compressed music at home and they don't enjoy music on tiny mono speakers, no matter how "crisp" the manufacture says they are. Pick a magazine like Stereophile and you'l see the stark difference here. The only real difference here is that HomePod supports HomeKit and limited SiriKit and Echo supports Alexa.

Yes, it is all about the voice features, or lack therof. People who have gold plated sensitive ears look to the a highly revered audio companies that have been studying sound and engineering speakers for decades. (I'm not an audiophile, but I know them. They lovingly mock my $4K PSB 7.1 speaker system and $3k Denon. I understand why.)

Anyone who touts the HomePod's "superior sound" is either a hack, a lemming, or an audiophile wannabe.
 
"...only the person who sets up HomePod on their iCloud account will be able to send texts, set up reminders, and get calendar notifications via voice commands."

I don't understand tying a speaker to a specific person. Speakers are (nominally) relatively communal in nature. With this setup we would need 2 speakers to enjoy the supposed benefits of having a smart speaker in the home. Which makes the smart speaker seem pretty dumb.

Yep, Apple has never really figured out how to get account sharing to work well in the modern world. If you have kids and do the family thing, maybe thats ok. But sharing anything with friends using iCould simply sucks.
 
I don't think the majority of the market for this cares that much about sound quality. For this to be a hit, it has to seamlessly integrate within the apple universe. No apple tv support? Can put a few speakers together and have apple tv sound system? Macs can't seamlessly use these? Does some kind of homekit nonsense? I don't give a crap. So does apple tv and every iOS device. The Homepod can't be used as a BT speaker which is extremely stupid.

I really don't see the point of getting ONE speaker for one room. It's primary function would seem to be playing apple music. Siri is a joke otherwise. That is too limited since I already have BT speakers laying around and apple music on every device just about.

If i simply wanted ONE speaker, I'd get a google or amazon one (and many already do) because it offers better AI, is much cheaper, and already doubles as a BT speaker for iphone that plays good enough. My kiddo already gets better mileage out of this because Siri is so awful at answering questions. In fact, because that one speakers offers a different and better AI then iphone is what is attractive about them. A siri speaker is just more of what I already have....siri.
 
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As an iPhone and Apple Watch owner, I don't need another device with Siri because Siri is always with me now. I will buy a HomePod because it's from a company I like, and I don't currently have any nice speakers. Siri on the speaker isn't the reason I'll buy it. It's just icing on the cake.

Honestly, if you only want nice speakers, don't care about Siri, there's an huge market of $700/pr stereo speakers from respected audio companies that are a much better value.

OTOH I have a home full of good speakers, but while I do have an iPhone and a couple iPads, they are not always with me when I'm moving around the house... or my iPhone is in my pocket out of earshot of Siri. Many time's I put my phone on the dock because I want to unplug. So it would be nice to have a small Siri speaker/mic so I could bark out commands w/o having to wonder where my iDevice is.
 
I think we are pretty clear about what it will do, it’s a speaker first with some assistant capabilities, the multi room and stereo pair feature will come later this year.
You're literally quoting ad copy and I'm talking about functional details. Not the same thing. You may be clear about what it will do, but judging by the queries in this thread, you're in minority.
 
To people who are truly serious about sound quality they don't listen to compressed music at home and they don't enjoy music on tiny mono speakers, no matter how "crisp" the manufacture says they are. Pick a magazine like Stereophile and you'l see the stark difference here. The only real difference here is that HomePod supports HomeKit and limited SiriKit and Echo supports Alexa.

Yes, it is all about the voice features, or lack therof. People who have gold plated sensitive ears look to the a highly revered audio companies that have been studying sound and engineering speakers for decades. (I'm not an audiophile, but I know them. They lovingly mock my $4K PSB 7.1 speaker system and $3k Denon. I understand why.)

Anyone who touts the HomePod's "superior sound" is either a hack, a lemming, or an audiophile wannabe.

Completely wrong. I have a small fortune invested in audiophile gear and am highly invested in music (as a studio engineer and a live sound engineer).

I don't get why people think "audiophiles" spend all day only listening to high-end equipment? Do you think I have a full-blown stereo system in every room in my house? Or at work?

I'll get several HomePods so I can enjoy good sound anywhere I wish.
 
Anyone who touts the HomePod's "superior sound" is either a hack, a lemming, or an audiophile wannabe.

That will depend on what you’re comparing the HomePod to, if your comparing it to the Echo or Google Home then (according to early review) the HomePod does have “superior sound” BUT it’s compared to very high end expensive equipment that audiophiles use then no it won’t be.

I don’t think the HomePod is meant for the high end audiophile, it’s the average Apple user that wants a speaker to fit within the Apple ecosystem. Me for example I want a couple around the house because I don’t have an Echo, Google Home or any speaker system and the HomePod fits within the Apple ecosystem that I use on a daily basis, it was the same reason I got the AirPods when they came out.
 
Yes, this. Those here parroting Apple's "superior sound" line don't seem to get it. That's not really a killer feature with this type of product. It's not an audiophile device, and not priced as one either. It's geared to play compressed audio and use voice commands to control audio streamed from Apple Music. It does do some Siri commands, but not all. That's like a niche market of a niche market.

OTOH Echo, also not audiophile, doesn't market itself that way, easy to use, does all sorts of tricks, and multiple price points, none really outlandish that has attracted users to that platform. That is Echo's secret sauce. The only issue with Echo for me is I don't trust Amazon enough. But most people are unfazed or unaware on the security issue.

It really does baffle me that Apple is targeting HomePod for it's 30 million AM subscribers rather than it's hundreds of millions of device users. I mean all those Apple device users have had lots of time to sign up for AM but declined. Does Apple think a speaker more expensive than the Echo but with less features other than "superior sound" is going to convince the rest of us when that speaker with Siri can't do much else?

People who want superior sound aren’t going to even consider this device until it supports stereo pairing, either.
 
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You're literally quoting ad copy and I'm talking about functional details. Not the same thing. You may be clear about what it will do, but judging by the queries in this thread, you're in minority.

I’m not quoting and copying anything I’m literally saying what it is and what I will be using it for. Do I think it’s for everyone? No I don’t, do I think it will fly off the shelves and sell in the high millions? No I don’t, I think it will start out like Apple TV and the Apple Watch did that’s to say not for everyone.
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People who want superior sound aren’t going to even consider this device until it supports stereo pairing, either.

Which will come later in the year, I don’t understand why people have to be so impatient I can understand if Apple had taken the feature away but I’d rather they work on it to get it right than rush it and it be a complete mess.
 
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Anyone who touts the HomePod's "superior sound" is either a hack, a lemming, or an audiophile wannabe.

Or they just lack the experience from listening to high end audio systems. Once you done that for an hour or two it is hard to go back, unless of course your ears are just not that sensitive. Every time audio is processed either electronically or physically (for example, in the HomePod by bouncing it off of walls), it removes some of the mojo.

I'm sure the HomePod will be the best speaker Apple has ever produced, but I don't expect it to have any impact on real high end speakers, even if they introduce a HomePod Pro.
 
So it supports only one “owner”/iCloud account? Rendering it essentially useless in my house where, you know, multiple people live in an arrangement called a “family?”

Yup, completely useless. It doesn't work at all for more than one person. Looks like it's not for you.
 
That will depend on what you’re comparing the HomePod to, if your comparing it to the Echo or Google Home then (according to early review) the HomePod does have “superior sound” BUT it’s compared to very high end expensive equipment that audiophiles use then no it won’t be.


That's true. But I've been around for enough decades now, been though many small speaker systems in college, apartments, even my house before I shoved them in the ceilings. There is no such thing as "superior" anything when it comes to small speakers. They are a compromise, just as big speakers are with their space hogging and awkwardness.

Echo vs HomePod I'm betting we are talking marginal sound difference at best, especially with compressed music. HomePod might sound clearer, but it's 2.5x more too. But ultimately all these speakers pump out background, not critical listening music.
 
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Yes, this. Those here parroting Apple's "superior sound" line don't seem to get it. That's not really a killer feature with this type of product. It's not an audiophile device, and not priced as one either. It's geared to play compressed audio and use voice commands to control audio streamed from Apple Music. It does do some Siri commands, but not all. That's like a niche market of a niche market.

OTOH Echo, also not audiophile, doesn't market itself that way, easy to use, does all sorts of tricks, and multiple price points, none really outlandish that has attracted users to that platform. That is Echo's secret sauce. The only issue with Echo for me is I don't trust Amazon enough. But most people are unfazed or unaware on the security issue.

It really does baffle me that Apple is targeting HomePod for it's 30 million AM subscribers rather than it's hundreds of millions of device users. I mean all those Apple device users have had lots of time to sign up for AM but declined. Does Apple think a speaker more expensive than the Echo but with less features other than "superior sound" is going to convince the rest of us when that speaker with Siri can't do much else?
Yes I see Gruber and others saying HomePod shouldn’t be compared to Echo and Google Home because Apple is positioning it first and foremost as a high quality speaker. Yet in interviews Tim Cook said sound quality was missing from the smart speaker market and referred to the competition as having “squeaky sound”. He also said it would be difficult to license and compete with licensees. That sure doesn’t sound like he’s talking about Sonos or Bose. Of course HomePod is going to be compared to Echo and Google Home, and it’s doubtful that sound quality is going to be enough to justify the price difference. It will sell to diehards who are all in on anything Apple but I can’t see it being much more successful unless/until Siri gets a lot better.
 
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Tell me why we need another voice assisted speaker again?
As someone all in on apples eco system and the fact that I find Siri works better at controlling my smart lights then Alexa I’m def getting one in a few months
 
I’m not quoting and copying anything I’m literally saying what it is and what I will be using it for. Do I think it’s for everyone? No I don’t, do I think it will fly off the shelves and sell in the high millions? No I don’t, I think it will start out like Apple TV and the Apple Watch did that’s to say not for everyone.
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Which will come later in the year, I don’t understand why people have to be so impatient I can understand if Apple had taken the feature away but I’d rather they work on it to get it right than rush it and it be a complete mess.

I’m not impatient. I’m wondering why Apple is releasing an unfinished product, and doing so without explaining how it will work in family situations, etc. I am also wondering who the intended audience is, since Apple hasn’t clearly explained to me why I should buy it (and I buy pretty much everything Apple sells).
 
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