I just opened this article because of how ridiculous that reviewer sounded. Is this how you sell apple products?" If you close your eyes, it's easy to feel like you're at a live performance."
Stop. Just stop it now.
I just opened this article because of how ridiculous that reviewer sounded. Is this how you sell apple products?" If you close your eyes, it's easy to feel like you're at a live performance."
Stop. Just stop it now.
Just use homebridgeI just wish Siri was half as useful as Echo. I really don't want to use Echo but it integrated 20 times easier to my home automation and has so many plugins. I literally was having to write little Go code apps to get proper integration into my existing system. PLEASE fix Siri.
Me: Hey Siri, turn on the living room lights
Siri: Can't find upsidedown lights
Me: Hey Siri, turn on the living room lights
Siri: Chewbaca is a character in the Star Wars moviees
Me: arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Me: Alexa, turn on the living room lights
Alexa: Ok
Why not post a real example?I just wish Siri was half as useful as Echo. I really don't want to use Echo but it integrated 20 times easier to my home automation and has so many plugins. I literally was having to write little Go code apps to get proper integration into my existing system. PLEASE fix Siri.
Me: Hey Siri, turn on the living room lights
Siri: Can't find upsidedown lights
Me: Hey Siri, turn on the living room lights
Siri: Chewbaca is a character in the Star Wars moviees
Me: arghhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Me: Alexa, turn on the living room lights
Alexa: Ok
To the average consumer, beam forming means NOTHING. People would rather be able to play music from services like pandora, spotify, and other services deeply more entrenched than apple music and the HomePod doesn't allow this....but hey, it has beam forming. whop-pa-de-doo
Gruber has a post up about HomePod’s priorities. I think most people saying the critics don’t get this device are confused themselves. Critics get it they just think Apple focused on the wrong priority. What I don’t get is why it has to be an either/or thing. Why couldn’t Apple make the best voice assistant wireless speaker that also sounds amazing? Why couldn’t both be priorities? And wouldn’t HomePod be a great jumping off point to turn Siri into a full fledged platform vs just an OS appendage? As it is now I don’t know what problem HomePod is solving. The market for people that are looking for an audiophile quality portable speaker has to be quite niche. And my guess is true audiophiles will be skeptical that Apple can deliver and/or already have setups with equipment that’s more expensive and better sounding than HomePod. So then it comes down to Siri and Apple Music. I’m not sure either of those are enough to sell this device in large quantities.
https://daringfireball.net/2018/01/homepod_priorities
https://www.imore.com/siri-needs-become-platform
You're amusing. "Simpler and frankly more capable devices." Such as? Naysayers such as yourself always seems to speak even when they have no facts with which to back up their claims. I would venture to say that the HomePod will be well received by the "consumer space" even if they don't value the HomePod due to it's "disminishing (sic)" returns. Since you yourself don't seem to be panning to buy one you will have to depend on feedback from the "consumer space". I for one am looking forward to the arrival of two and will provide real world feedback based on performance in my unique space.You’re amusing. You don’t seem the understand the point of disminishing returns do you? AKA the slight benefit this tech provides won’t be valued in the consumer space for the premium it costs when there are simpler and frankly more capable devices
No.Woah! So not Apple Music subscription required? Apple throws this in free if you buy the Homepod?
I tried that but the problem with Homebridge (well homekit in general) is that it doesn't account for async changes outside of homekit. For example, if you use some other tool to change state it doesn't get the change and then Siri/Homekit assume they are the source of truth and won't turn on/off something they think is already in that state. I ended up building little Go servers that listened to changes and then published them back to Homekit. That worked... mostly. But still what a pain?!? How would they expect normal mortals to deal with these kinds of things? If I say turn it on, just turn it on. Also, Siri just doesn't always get simple dictation correct. Overall Siri/homekit needs some serious help to compete.Just use homebridge
Why? You'll just deny anything said and explain why all things Apple are awesome. Pointless. I love the ecosystem overall but I am also a critic where criticism is due. Siri is very short of market and homekit needs real attention. I also posted back to another commenter an actual use case that is broken in depth. Feel free to understand it if you can.Why not post a real example?
It's definitely not a bargain. Headphones are expensive because they're small. Most speakers that size (including cheaper ones) can fill most rooms. You're falling into the Apple narrative trap (we've all been there)As I’ve mentioned numerous times, I feel I am the target market for this speaker. I’m not an audiophile in any sense of the word. But if the HomePod can produce quality sound at $350, I say that’s a win for me. For some, the “smart” aspect of the speaker is the selling point for them. For me it’s the speakers capabilities.
In my opinion it is a bargain at $350. I spent close to $350 on my wireless Bose QC35’s. The HomePod can presumably fill an entire room regardless of its location. That is quite impressive if true.
I for one am very exited for this product.
Knew it would be too good to be true! Looks like my Sonos One is staying. Roll on airplay 2 support for it.No.
The poorly worded sentence means that if you don’t have an Apple Music subscription you can still use the speaker to play music purchased on iTunes.
You’re purposely overstating the downsides of Siri.I tried that but the problem with Homebridge (well homekit in general) is that it doesn't account for async changes outside of homekit. For example, if you use some other tool to change state it doesn't get the change and then Siri/Homekit assume they are the source of truth and won't turn on/off something they think is already in that state. I ended up building little Go servers that listened to changes and then published them back to Homekit. That worked... mostly. But still what a pain?!? How would they expect normal mortals to deal with these kinds of things? If I say turn it on, just turn it on. Also, Siri just doesn't always get simple dictation correct. Overall Siri/homekit needs some serious help to compete.
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Why? You'll just deny anything said and explain why all things Apple are awesome. Pointless. I love the ecosystem overall but I am also a critic where criticism is due. Siri is very short of market and homekit needs real attention. I also posted back to another commenter an actual use case that is broken in depth. Feel free to understand it if you can.
I think the cellular connectivity debacles in the Apple Watch Series 3 reviews spooked Apple into controlling the test environment more thoroughly. They did the same for the iPhone X.Why only an hour? Seems like a pitiful amount of time to put any product though the paces. Also these reviews were they "in call" where the reviewer had to go to a venue set up by Apple or could the reviewer borrow it and test at an independent location?
Really looking forward to some real reviews.
Now you know how Android users feel when people champion iPhones as a better choice on "user experience" grounds. I use an iPhone and actually agree that it provides a superior UX, but I'm well aware of how that argument strikes Android users as ethereal and pretentious.I just can't get past the whole idea that for all the hyperbole about how great this thing sounds, it's a single point for sound. For decades, music's been in stereo. Has everyone just sort of forgotten this in favour of convenience and expense? If I listen to early Beatles on this thing, will I hear vocals on one side of the room and guitars on the other as was recorded? Will I hear the separation that builds the sound stage as audio engineers have been doing for the whole of my life? I just don't see how this thing will sound right being a single point. You'd need two of them, and that apparently doesn't even work yet. If this device is all about awesome sound, I just can't understand how it will deliver. Maybe I'm just too old school, I dunno.
Already do both of those sir, thanks for the advice though. It might help someone else. Good day.If you are concerned about electromagnetic radiation then make sure you avoid the Sun. Don't use candles either.
I’m *this* close to pre-ordering one - I think it will be great, and if not I have 14 days to return it. Also, I wish we could ban the word “audiophile” from this discussion.![]()
It depends on the module, most do keep track of state changes via a polling mechanism of some sort.I tried that but the problem with Homebridge (well homekit in general) is that it doesn't account for async changes outside of homekit. For example, if you use some other tool to change state it doesn't get the change and then Siri/Homekit assume they are the source of truth and won't turn on/off something they think is already in that state. I ended up building little Go servers that listened to changes and then published them back to Homekit. That worked... mostly. But still what a pain?!? How would they expect normal mortals to deal with these kinds of things? If I say turn it on, just turn it on. Also, Siri just doesn't always get simple dictation correct. Overall Siri/homekit needs some serious help to compete.
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Why? You'll just deny anything said and explain why all things Apple are awesome. Pointless. I love the ecosystem overall but I am also a critic where criticism is due. Siri is very short of market and homekit needs real attention. I also posted back to another commenter an actual use case that is broken in depth. Feel free to understand it if you can.
You are clearly exaggerating the limitations of Siri. She works wonders in my environment that includes lights, thermostat, ATV4, iPhones, iPads, Macs, etc. Besides I am more than happy that Siri isn't feeding the marketing/advertising machines at Amazon and Google with their always on creepy listening.I tried that but the problem with Homebridge (well homekit in general) is that it doesn't account for async changes outside of homekit. For example, if you use some other tool to change state it doesn't get the change and then Siri/Homekit assume they are the source of truth and won't turn on/off something they think is already in that state. I ended up building little Go servers that listened to changes and then published them back to Homekit. That worked... mostly. But still what a pain?!? How would they expect normal mortals to deal with these kinds of things? If I say turn it on, just turn it on. Also, Siri just doesn't always get simple dictation correct. Overall Siri/homekit needs some serious help to compete.
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Why? You'll just deny anything said and explain why all things Apple are awesome. Pointless. I love the ecosystem overall but I am also a critic where criticism is due. Siri is very short of market and homekit needs real attention. I also posted back to another commenter an actual use case that is broken in depth. Feel free to understand it if you can.
These are being sold in a deceptive way because unlike other smart speaker systems there is no way to get good stereo without buying two. Why not sell them as a pair if two are required?
What more do you want, he played "upwards of five songs". There's no pleasing some people.![]()
You are clearly exaggerating the limitations of Siri. She works wonders in my environment that includes lights, thermostat, ATV4, iPhones, iPads, Macs, etc. Besides I am more than happy that Siri isn't feeding the marketing machines at Amazon and Google.