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The HomePod, more specifically, has more traditional/neutral colors being they will be paired in various rooms in a house so it will blend better with other common colors. I have No interest in an "aquatic blue HomePod color" in my living room.

I’m sure it will fit very nicely with your plain home decor, but some of us have more colourful tastes.
 
I’m sure it will fit very nicely with your plain home decor, but some of us have more colourful tastes.

It most certainly will, thanks. But that's not the point. You're Entitled to your color preferences, however Apple is not going to implement some bright fuchsia color when the HomePod is likely to be intended more of a formal fitting for a home environment. Clearly that's what they're aiming for by using neutral colors like black and white. If You were expecting colors for the HomePod to be somewhat like the iPhone 5c Lineup for example, then you're going to continue to be disappointed and it won't change complaining about it.
 
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Who are those people?

With respect to listening environments, I have never found a noisier space than an Apple Store, usually with (lime)stone back walls, soaring glass panels for the front and sides, and glass ceilings. Far, far different than a typical home cocktail party with a dozen people.

It's difficult to even think in those stores when they're loaded with customers. That's not something HomePod, or any other speaker can deal with, other than out powering the background noise. Perhaps a hundred watts would help - just don't get too close.

I will say my HomePod, so far, sounds great in my more modest challenging environment.

For those that have listening environments similar to a customer-loaded Apple Store, HomePod is not for you.

Let's not have any false modesty here, that's not going to be the typical listening experience for somebody judging a HomePod based on a flurry of customers talking in a noisy, hectic store, amongst all the other audibles occurring. Most who are truly interested in the HomePod, will purchase it and exercise the 14 day return policy based on how they deem the sound in their own environment, not judging JUST judging by how it sounds in a store. How many customers are actually purchasing this without even hearing it first? I would say a large majority. Anyone here knows to fully appreciate the HomePod, you're going to use it in an environment where you can judge it based on what it sounds like in your home, how you have it positioned, in a much more controlled and less noisy environment than a packed Apple Store. It's simple logic, I think your drastically overthinking this.


You guys are hilarious. You are so busy pounding the table insisting everything Apple does is perfection that you don't even realize you stepped on your own Apple evangelical tenet here that Apple can do no wrong. Look all I am saying is if it sounds good in the store then it will likely sound great in the home. Sure auditioning in the home is preferable to the store. But, other than people like you guys that will automatically buy anything with an Apple sticker on it, Apple has to first convince consumers to take it home to try it out. 14-day return period is fine, but people don't really like to bother returning products. It's a time waster. So they want to know there is at least a 60% chance they will want to keep the product.

Apple has had months to consider where to place the HomePod in its stores. It probably started planning this well before it even announced the product existed. Apple does not randomly display products. Everything is well planned, down to the spacing between products. One has to assume Apple placed the HomePod where it did for maximum consumer attention and approval.

You guys have been touting the revolutionary engineering of the HomePod for months now. Not even having heard it you crowned it the king of speakers. Pure room-filling magic. But now that I suggest if it sounds good in the Apple Store, where Apple carefully placed then it will sound great in the home, you vigorously disagree. So, yes, you can't have it both ways regarding Apple's perfection. Sorry. HomePod's sound capability is either unlike any smaller speaker we've seen before and can masterfully.defeat even the worst listening conditions or it's just another small smart speaker. A mark of a great product is that it can perform admirably under non-ideal conditions. I have not listened to the HomePod in store or elsewhere, but my impression is auditioning in-store will not embarrass Apple.

BTW citysnaps "Who are those people?" Which people? The ones that attend gatherings? Birthday parties, holiday parties, family events, new in town parties.... yes, people socialize at other people's homes, people host get-togethers all the time. Common social experience for me. Surprised you are questioning whether this kind of socialization is actually a thing.
 
You guys are hilarious. You are so busy pounding the table insisting everything Apple does is perfection that you don't even realize you stepped on your own Apple evangelical tenet here that Apple can do no wrong. Look all I am saying is if it sounds good in the store then it will likely sound great in the home. Sure auditioning in the home is preferable to the store. But, other than people like you guys that will automatically buy anything with an Apple sticker on it, Apple has to first convince consumers to take it home to try it out. 14-day return period is fine, but people don't really like to bother returning products. It's a time waster. So they want to know there is at least a 60% chance they will want to keep the product.

Apple has had months to consider where to place the HomePod in its stores. It probably started planning this well before it even announced the product existed. Apple does not randomly display products. Everything is well planned, down to the spacing between products. One has to assume Apple placed the HomePod where it did for maximum consumer attention and approval.

You guys have been touting the revolutionary engineering of the HomePod for months now. Not even having heard it you crowned it the king of speakers. Pure room-filling magic. But now that I suggest if it sounds good in the Apple Store, where Apple carefully placed then it will sound great in the home, you vigorously disagree. So, yes, you can't have it both ways regarding Apple's perfection. Sorry. HomePod's sound capability is either unlike any smaller speaker we've seen before and can masterfully.defeat even the worst listening conditions or it's just another small smart speaker. A mark of a great product is that it can perform admirably under non-ideal conditions. I have not listened to the HomePod in store or elsewhere, but my impression is auditioning in-store will not embarrass Apple.

BTW citysnaps "Who are those people?" Which people? The ones that attend gatherings? Birthday parties, holiday parties, family events, new in town parties.... yes, people socialize at other people's homes, people host get-togethers all the time. Common social experience for me. Surprised you are questioning whether this kind of socialization is actually a thing.

In a word, whew! That was quite a missive. I'll try to be brief.

"Common social experience for me. Surprised you are questioning whether this kind of socialization is actually a thing."

Not questioning that at all. Don't put words in my mouth. What I'm saying is I've never been to a family party in one's home where the noise level even remotely compares with that of a typical Apple Store. From playing with a HomePod for a day, I suspect it will work fine in the environments you are so concerned about.


"You guys have been touting the revolutionary engineering of the HomePod for months now. Not even having heard it you crowned it the king of speakers."
There you go again. Putting words in my mouth. I've talked about the technology (having some experience in that field) in quite a bit of detail and its potential. But have never said it would reign supreme. I have said I'd have 14 days to determine if it would sound good in my home.


"Look all I am saying is if it sounds good in the store then it will likely sound great in the home. Sure auditioning in the home is preferable to the store."
I've yet to hear any speaker system in an Apple Store where I would be able to conclude how it sounds in the store, or if would sound good in my home. Apple Stores are much too noisy, with highly reflective surfaces.


"You guys are hilarious. You are so busy pounding the table insisting everything Apple does is perfection that you don't even realize you stepped on your own Apple evangelical tenet here that Apple can do no wrong."
Now that's a real hoot. Why are you so upset? And where have I ever said Apple develops products to perfection? I've talked about the potential of the technology HomePod employs and said I was looking forward to seeing how it works in my home.

As I've said, many times, if HomePod doesn't measure up, it's an easy return within 14 days. I have made no conclusions about how it will sound. Only that the potential is there so that it could sound really good.

Also...Just to be clear, I've never said how HomePod will work compared to other speakers it's going against (Echo, Google Max, etc), having never owned any of them.
 
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Been burned by the AppleTV that never got Siri despite being technically fully capable in my country.
Yes, too bad. Less features supported, half-baked products (but with same or higher price), less items sold, less interest in developing fully featured products, so less features supported and so on and on. The worst part is that looking at Apple's size I find it difficult to find any justification.
 
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I don’t think the intelligent speaker market is as large as Apple thinks it is. If only the HomePod would pair with the Apple TV to become the sound output of what ever is playing on the AppleTV I would get one (as most TV speakers are absolute garbage). As it stands, it’s just a music player. No one needs an intelligent music player. We all have that technology in our pockets. It’s just a “hey, Siri” away.

Edit: looks like you CAN stream from an Apple TV to the HomePod. Was planning on buying a small sound bar, so will give the HomePod a shot first.
 
First Apple product not back ordered for weeks? Seems like there is a lack of demand.


First, Did you consider that it is only available in 3 countries? Second, did you check your sources as wherever you read this that every Apple product has been back ordered for weeks is not true?
 
It's not even really good. It's a $50 product (lower feature level than Amazon or Google) for more than double their price.

I want Apple to make good products. I don't get upset when their good products are expensive when they're good values.

This is not a good product or a good value. Apple goofed.
It would be cool if it was a hybrid device that did all it does now with the option to unplug and use as a Bluetooth speaker, even with similar iphone IP67 water resistance.
 
I’m sure it will fit very nicely with your plain home decor, but some of us have more colourful tastes.

Don't tell me its multi-colored.

In a word, whew! That was quite a missive. I'll try to be brief.

"Common social experience for me. Surprised you are questioning whether this kind of socialization is actually a thing."

Not questioning that at all. Don't put words in my mouth. What I'm saying is I've never been to a family party in one's home where the noise level even remotely compares with that of a typical Apple Store. From playing with a HomePod for a day, I suspect it will work fine in the environments you are so concerned about.


"You guys have been touting the revolutionary engineering of the HomePod for months now. Not even having heard it you crowned it the king of speakers."
There you go again. Putting words in my mouth. I've talked about the technology (having some experience in that field) in quite a bit of detail and its potential. But have never said it would reign supreme. I have said I'd have 14 days to determine if it would sound good in my home.


"Look all I am saying is if it sounds good in the store then it will likely sound great in the home. Sure auditioning in the home is preferable to the store."
I've yet to hear any speaker system in an Apple Store where I would be able to conclude how it sounds in the store, or if would sound good in my home. Apple Stores are much too noisy, with highly reflective surfaces.


"You guys are hilarious. You are so busy pounding the table insisting everything Apple does is perfection that you don't even realize you stepped on your own Apple evangelical tenet here that Apple can do no wrong."
Now that's a real hoot. Why are you so upset? And where have I ever said Apple develops products to perfection? I've talked about the potential of the technology HomePod employs and said I was looking forward to seeing how it works in my home.

As I've said, many times, if HomePod doesn't measure up, it's an easy return within 14 days. I have made no conclusions about how it will sound. Only that the potential is there so that it could sound really good.

Also...Just to be clear, I've never said how HomePod will work compared to other speakers it's going against (Echo, Google Max, etc), having never owned any of them.

I think the idea would be most people would praise Apple for just about any product. in existence. no matter how bad it performs. not saying it won't but you gotta admit, any product anyone will jump up to and say "Yes this is always the best" you have to really have doubts after some time ?'


eg. Where are the down falls ? no company can keep climbing the walls and never fall.
 
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It will be like Apple Watch sort, high price to off set possible reduction in iPhone sales. We can expect Apple Glass, Apple Television (Not that ussluseApple TV) ...all these will tie you to iPhones. Good way to manage the portfolio by changing features and forcing upgrades through various tactics.

I have Bose Soundlink Mini and Soundlink III which are connected to my TV Set Top Boxes, Mobiles and Laptops. Bought it few years back, rock solid. Plus, it has long lasting powerful batteries! You can carry anywhere temporarily!

For the price Homepod is not even havving batteries!
 
Most people already have speakers. Does this do something that special for them to drop close to $400? Actually it probably does less since it doesn't play well outside the walled garden.
$400 is not a lot for MANY people, just like the $1000 iPhone X showed you to be the case.

People like Apple products because they work well with their other Apple devices. HomePod sounds better than any smart speaker out there and the average non audiophile will think it’s the best sound ever.
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It will be like Apple Watch sort, high price to off set possible reduction in iPhone sales. We can expect Apple Glass, Apple Television (Not that ussluseApple TV) ...all these will tie you to iPhones. Good way to manage the portfolio by changing features and forcing upgrades through various tactics.

I have Bose Soundlink Mini and Soundlink III which are connected to my TV Set Top Boxes, Mobiles and Laptops. Bought it few years back, rock solid. Plus, it has long lasting powerful batteries! You can carry anywhere temporarily!

For the price Homepod is not even havving batteries!
Bose is widely hated by people whI know about sound.
 
I waited in like for a hr and a half for the Homepod, nobody lined up until 15 mins before and only a few of us were getting it lol. It was so worth the wait though, this thing sounds GOOD! At 1st I was sure apple overcharged it at least by $50 maybe even $75 but after using it for a day and using it with my iMac (the latency kinda sucks but I think they are fixing this with Airplay 2) its completely worth the $350
 
$400 is not a lot for MANY people, just like the $1000 iPhone X showed you to be the case.

People like Apple products because they work well with their other Apple devices. HomePod sounds better than any smart speaker out there and the average non audiophile will think it’s the best sound ever.
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Bose is widely hated by people whI know about sound.

Bose has been and will be a far superior speakers than Apple speakers with better features and functionalities.
 
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In a word, whew! That was quite a missive. I'll try to be brief.

"Common social experience for me. Surprised you are questioning whether this kind of socialization is actually a thing."

Not questioning that at all. Don't put words in my mouth. What I'm saying is I've never been to a family party in one's home where the noise level even remotely compares with that of a typical Apple Store. From playing with a HomePod for a day, I suspect it will work fine in the environments you are so concerned about.
How many small children are typically at these gatherings. My usual experience is, if more than one, and sometimes if even just one, they put a hog slaughter to shame lol. And I'm less than half kidding. :)

Not saying that to argue. It just popped into my mind that I should be jealous of you if you find parties quieter than the Apple store. Today my four year old discovered that he can very well impersonate pikachu from the Pokémon anime when he's made. Him screaming "pikaaaaa chuuuuuuuu" to himself a few times was enough to have me wishing for the tranquility of the Boston Apple store.

Having said all of that now, in all seriousness, who is actually st a party worried about how sweet the sound system is? Music is all background noise and I really can't imagine anyone sitting down to seriously enjoy their favorite track on anything. So in that sense I feel like the entire party discussion is a bit moot, unless of course my partying is just way different than everyone else's. And it may be. My ears are still ringing. "Chuuuuuu...."
 
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So why is this better then a Amazon Echo or Google Home?

I'm not knocking it. Believe me my stock portfolio thanks you guys often. I just don't know why this was released.
 
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