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Yes, because their entry into the market was too expensive.

That was deliberate. Could you imagine if they started at the low end and then tried to introduce a much more expensive speaker? Consumers would ask "why would I spend more for the same thing?".

The original HomePod broke the ice, allowed them to refine the technology at a premium level, and then reduce its size. Technology always starts out big and then gets smaller as it matures.
 
Just sold my HomePod OG to a lucky owner so that I can get two black minis and an Apple TV. Already have four minis home.
Kinda sorry I sold the OG but I don't want to get stuck with an old device when Apple releases their home cinema combo ?
 
I might be the only one in this thread to feel this way, but here goes: I am not entirely comfortable with devices in my home that are listening 100% of the time, recording the audio, and sending it in for analysis.

The latest iOS devices process many requests on-device now, so nothing is sent to the cloud unless the device itself requires the cloud for further processing.

There's certain things in our modern world that we can no longer avoid. Just walking or driving down the street sends your image to traffic cams on the internet where anybody in the world can view them.

This is why Apple's focus on privacy is paramount. Because other companies (and governments) aren't asking for your consent to broadcast your life to the world. Apple's approach is designed to provide convenience without violating your privacy. They aren't perfect, but definitely better than the majority.
 
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That was deliberate. Could you imagine if they started at the low end and then tried to introduce a much more expensive speaker? Consumers would ask "why would I spend more for the same thing?".

The original HomePod broke the ice, allowed them to refine the technology at a premium level, and then reduce its size. Technology always starts out big and then gets smaller as it matures.
That’s fine, but for better or worse, that price point dictated their market share.
 
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Well I have to admit I do like my minis. I have 6 and 2 OG HomePods. I’ve tried the echo dots, echo shows, regular echos, nest hub and google nest mini. Alexa and the google assistant are better assistants however the HomePod is the one the plays the best with all my devices because they are apple devices. I’d rather give up some of the smarts for better integration and control. Also the mini and the OG HomePod both sound better than all the aforementioned speakers and that’s that I used them for the most. Second most used function is as speakers for my Apple TV’s.
 
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Also want to add that there is zero chance that I would be using my homepod mini's at all if it weren't for a good integration from Home Assistant and Homebridge.
 
Because Apple people will clearly accept compromises on anything Apple to stay in their ecosystem?
The original Homepod was overpriced, didn't play nice with other services and devices, and then was discontinued and replaced with something too tiny that (physics says) it can't play decent sound.

I'd love to have an affordable HomePod that sounds great. Couple hundred bucks would be nice.

I wound't say it was overpriced for the quality of the product that was offered. The original HomePod was top of its class in terms of sound quality and performance. I do agree that they should not have discontinued it, replacing it with a cheaper option just to get market share. Now they're in a tough spot to raise the price on a mid-range device.
 
My 7yo daughter uses Siri on her iPad every day, for two basic reasons: the weather report and to play music. Both of which Siri handles flawlessly. So this year, she is getting a mini for xmas. While there are well-documented wish lists for Siri and Apple's overall speaker strategy, for our specific use case, in our Apple ecosystem, the mini makes perfect sense. I'll be interested to see how it performs.

That said, as I have written many times, any improvements to Siri are nothing but welcomed.
 
Can we make it use Alexa instead of Siri? is that an option?
if you want to be spied on, maybe you could hack it. But siriously, in my experience, Siri is way better, even without the lack of spying, but you should get what you want, no one is stopping you
 
My 7yo daughter uses Siri on her iPad every day, for two basic reasons: the weather report and to play music. Both of which Siri handles flawlessly. So this year, she is getting a mini for xmas. While there are well-documented wish lists for Siri and Apple's overall speaker strategy, for our specific use case, in our Apple ecosystem, the mini makes perfect sense. I'll be interested to see how it performs.

That said, as I have written many times, any improvements to Siri are nothing but welcomed.
Well, the minis have excellent sound for a small speaker, way better than google pucks and amazon. I use a pair with my appleTV and listen in Dolby Atmos.
 
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Said nobody ever, but you.
Not true, Siri is way better, and no spying. Might be a use case, Google has the best fart sounds, if you are into that, but for what I use it for. I am very satisfied. Besides, just to let you know, you don't speak for me
 
I might be the only one in this thread to feel this way, but here goes: I am not entirely comfortable with devices in my home that are listening 100% of the time, recording the audio, and sending it in for analysis.
then -- turn off data collection - unless you have google or amazon, then you are out of luck.
 
no spying

Says who? Oh, Apple. Your trust in Apple is what Apple thrives on and feeds your complacency.

I have no proof whether Apple spies on you or not. Neither do you.
You have no proof Amazon spies on me or not. Neither do I.

People have tried and failed to show that Amazon is spying or collecting data beyond what they say they do. Sure it is passively listening to everything it hears, but so is Homepod.

But you keep peddling that snake oil.
 
Still shouldn’t have discontinued the first one. :( By far one of my most treasured Apple thingies.
Apple shouldn't have started with the big one, or at least only with the big one. Smart speakers need market share to build a larger ecosystem for media and smart home stuff, not just great sound. Hopefully the mini becomes successful enough that Apple reintroduce a higher end model.
 
Considering how niche the Homepod (still) is in features and integrations, I'm surprised Apple is managing to get a 10% market share.
 
That was deliberate. Could you imagine if they started at the low end and then tried to introduce a much more expensive speaker? Consumers would ask "why would I spend more for the same thing?".

The original HomePod broke the ice, allowed them to refine the technology at a premium level, and then reduce its size. Technology always starts out big and then gets smaller as it matures.
I'm not sure that is really the case with speakers. Sure they made the homepod smaller, but majorly sacrificed sound quality to do so. The original homepod was a sophisticated speaker, the homepod mini is literally just a tiny single driver speaker in a sphere. It is fine for what it is, but it is definitely a downgrade in terms of sound quality.
 
Better sounding? Isn't the HomePod top-notch in terms of sound quality, for its size? What is your reference for a premium sound?
Homepod mini is fine for its size, but very underwhelming overall. I have original homepods and they have really great sound quality, but Apple doesn't make them anymore. It's the single driver homepod mini that sounds meh, and that's it. There needs to be a $199 or $249 option with more drivers and better sound to really create a good home music ecosystem.
 
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