HomePod vs movies

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by MacLewis, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. MacLewis macrumors newbie

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    Hey guys,

    So I've purchased a HomePod last week ( sill didn't open the box lol ) and I am wondering if I can watch movies from the normal tv ( no iTunes ). And also, I have a samsung surround sound bar connected to my tv, can I use both at the same time? HomePod and surround sound bar or do I have to choose one or another ?? I am hope to be able to use both :(.

    Also, I have a Apple TV 4th generation ( not 4k ). Can I watch movies from kodi using both HomePod and surround sound bar ?

    Thank you,

    Lou
     
  2. MacLewis thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you....wow...not even one reply !!! Anyway, I got it to work both at the same time with Apple TV, however the sound is slightly off one from another...any suggestions to fix this ?

    Thank you
    ( hope to get a reply)
     
  3. HDFan macrumors 65816

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    Probably not:

    https://www.lifewire.com/connect-apple-homepod-to-tv-4160381

    With Airplay support coming to new TV's I am not sure whether this becomes a possibility. Everything I've seen shows the new models to be Airplay players/receivers, not senders.

    Apple TV 4K has built in support for HomePod. If sound bar is seen as a bluetooth device then the Apple TV should be able to connect to it as well. Support for 2 audio outs may be coming:

    https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/26/repo...ic-to-two-bluetooth-devices-at-the-same-time/

    Not sure what Kodi is. Website isn't informative.
     
  4. mattopotamus macrumors G5

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    That’s the issue with pairing Bluetooth speakers with a TV, delay (lip sync). There is a reason the few really good wireless speakers are so damn expensive.
     
  5. cynics macrumors G4

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    Yes you can use multiple receivers/speakers at once. The caveat is the need to support AirPlay 2 and for certain sources you might not be able to AirPlay to a device that can receive video (currently being another AppleTV).

    If the app dev for the streaming service you want to play used Apples player you can just swipe down and select another source in the video. It will look like this.

    IMG_6397.JPG

    Kitchen for me is a stereo pair of HomePods and the AppleTV 4k is connected to a surround sound system via HDMI ARC through the TV. As you can see they are both selected and both are working.

    If the app dev made their own player you may need to go into audio settings and select the outputs there.

    IMG_6396.JPG

    Again as you can see AppleTV and Kitchen (HomePods) are selected.

    I know there are some good uses for wanting to do what you are looking for however I would try to keep in mind the HomePod is specifically made for music and most surround sound systems are specifically designed for movies. Neither of which compromise too much especially the HomePod. Sources such as music and movies are mastered to heard a certain way and for a single device to be the best at one of those requires it compromise at the other. It might not be something that is noticeable to you but it is there.

    The reason I mention that is because if there is something in the future that requires Apple to make the movie listening experience worst to make the music listening experience better they will take it.
     
  6. waw74 macrumors 68040

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    you can also access this setting by long pressing play on the home screen
     
  7. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    This is just my opinion, but the HomePod shouldn't be used as a TV speaker because it was never designed for that. It's a music speaker and digital assistant. Sure, you can use it for TV audio out, but it's not the right tool; the right tool will work better. Between the delay and the questionable support for DTS and such, I wouldn't use HomePod for serious TV/Movies.
     
  8. MistrSynistr macrumors 65816

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    You are wrong. I have two HomePods positioned at the back of my living room in stereo pair and it creates fantastic surround type sound throughout the room. So good in fact, everyone who comes over to watch TV/Movies comments on how amazing it sounds.
     
  9. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    I'm sure it's way better than built-in tv speakers, but it isn't actually decoding Dolby audio. It's merely playing back stereo sound. It's better than built-in TV speakers, but will never sound as good as proper receiver capable of decoding Dolby and speakers.
     
  10. priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    This will be interesting topic for discussion.
    Actually, tvOS is decoding dolby audio to PCM 5.1 or 7.1 as appropriate. There is no way around it (except to force DD5.1 output).
    Whether it is able to send anything besides PCM2.0 (FL & FR), remains to be investigated.
     
  11. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    I can't say for certain about AirPlay2, but I know AirPlay1 sent pure stereo, mixed, L and R. Nothing I have read about AirPlay2 suggests this changed. Until I read something that says AirPlay2 can sent PCM5.1 or better, I can only assume it sending stereo only.
     
  12. priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    True. So far there are no reports about AP2 supporting more than 2 pods either. It needs to allow more than 2 pods in a playback cluster first, then there will be hope for multichannel output.
     
  13. cjbryce macrumors 6502

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    My dream - 7.1 from HomePods/AppleTV with ARC in from the TV to the Apple TV so using the TV as the source switcher. I'd then sell my Denon A/V amp, my KEF eggs, my B&W floor-standers and about 75 metres of speaker cable.

    I can but dream. :)
     
  14. priitv8 macrumors 68040

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    Shall there be a special SubPod for the 0.1 channel??
     
  15. oneMadRssn macrumors 601

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    If you're ok with not Apple-branded hardware, you can almost do exactly that with Sonos today. Just 5.1 instead of 7.1. Sonos Beam for the front/center speakers, which has HDMI ARC in, and HDMI CEC. Then a pair of Sonos Play:1 or Sonos One speakers function as the surround. Throw in a Sonos Sub for the .1 channel if you want. You get AirPlay2 functionality, and it supports Dolby Digital and PCM sources. All wireless but for the power plugs and single HDMI cable.
     
  16. cjbryce macrumors 6502

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    There shall
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    Yeah, I’ve looked at Sonos and considered going down that road. I may yet take the plunge.
     

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