I agree. There's a concern that the iPhone will be stifled by the US market, which is years behind the rest of the world. Anyone for a 2G phone with a retractable aerial?
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I agree. There's a concern that the iPhone will be stifled by the US market, which is years behind the rest of the world. Anyone for a 2G phone with a retractable aerial?
I agree. There's a concern that the iPhone will be stifled by the US market, which is years behind the rest of the world. Anyone for a 2G phone with a retractable aerial?
I happen to have Cingular and an unlocked phone. I was able to use it in the US, France, Switzerland, England, and Germany.
Cingular is the largest US carrier by almost 10 million subscribers = 58 million subscribers - if you combine the subscribers from the other two leading GSM providers in the USA (TMobile & SunCom) you get 75 million.
That is 1/4 of all the cellphone able and willing.
The iPhone will be GSM - so I'm not sure what your gripe or complaint is. The USA is only behind in CURRENT data capability not technology or "european compliance"
Yes but the fact that the US still has conflicting standards doesn't bode well. It's also slow on 3G take-up, which is really what Apple should be considering if it wants the iPhone to be futureproof and allow music and films to be bought and downloaded on the hoof.
I agree, but I'm sure Apple wont mind releasing newer versions with those features in the future. I doubt it will be the "end all" of phones at first launch. I'm sure it will still be pretty darn cool.
Yeah; that's what I hoped as well... that iPhone == video iPod == multifunctional device...
I think so as well!
Me too.
I do as well.
Seriously, yes, I think a 15" MacBook would be great as I've always found the 13.1" screen a bit on the small side, however I don't see Apple doing this for simple product differentation reasons. In other words, a 15" MacBook would be too close to the 15" MBP. So yes, I would like to see it, but I don't see it happening.
I for one...
hope that they don't call it iPhone but something like iPod Mobile... It'd be much easy to market another iPod than an iPhone.
I doubt that they will release something like the Zune... It's not a good user experience when the buttons suddenly change. Unless they use the regular click wheel and it can detect when the device is horizontal...
hope that they don't call it iPhone but something like iPod Mobile... It'd be much easy to market another iPod than an iPhone.
I doubt that they will release something like the Zune... It's not a good user experience when the buttons suddenly change. Unless they use the regular click wheel and it can detect when the device is horizontal...
Hoping for the Phone and agree it should not be called iPhone since it does more...
how about iCan - like I can do anything with this device (music, pictures, video, phone, etc)
how about iCan - like I can do anything with this device (music, pictures, video, phone, etc)
I really don't think the video iPod will look like the Zune. Apple isn't going to want to look like they're copying MicroSoft. They will want to be innovative, and do something that hasn't been seen before.
If touch-screen doesn't work, then perhaps they will go with the touch-sensitive bezel. I could see that from Apple, whereas a Zune clone I can not.
I would really like a phone that is a great phone and not a good phone + crappy camera + decent music player.
I don't know about most people, but I hate the idea of the battery of my music player being the same as the battery of my phone. It means I can't take a call because I listened to too much music or I can't listen to music because I need the phone to work until I can recharge it. I'd like a phone that is a phone done right the same way as the iPod was a music player done right.
I've had phones which make calls in my pocket, change volume in my pocket and take pictures of the inside of my pocket. How about plain old trademark Apple simplicity.
If they do ipod/iphone integration, I am curious to see if they will revive the rotary dial.
That would be a great name, but it goes back to my argument that the device needs to be 3G so people can buy music and films directly, not via their computers. Then you really do have a mobile media player, and the fact you can make phone calls and send texts with it is a bonus.
I'm not crazy about the name "iPhone", but "iPod Mobile" doesn't really say "phone" to me. Aren't all iPods mobile already? I know the word "mobile" is sometimes used for a cellphone, but the more common usage of the word means "capable of moving or being moved readily."
If you called it iChat Mobile, then it'd be different -- since iChat is normally something you can use only on your computer, and therefore iChat Mobile would make you think of a phone device.
I do NOT think it should be called iChat Mobile, however -- since who knows what iChat is other than Mac users?
iPhone's not great, but it lets you know immediately what it is. It also tells you that it's most-likely from the makers of the iPod.
No way this will happen. Text messaging is way too popular, you *need* either a standard numeric keypad or some form of qwerty keyboard (either a full keyboard, or a hybrid one like on the Blackberry Pearl).
Apple has *lots* of patents that haven't seen the light of day in a real product. Just do a search on these forums for "patent" or "Apple patent".
I would really like a phone that is a great phone and not a good phone + crappy camera + decent music player.
I don't know about most people, but I hate the idea of the battery of my music player being the same as the battery of my phone. It means I can't take a call because I listened to too much music or I can't listen to music because I need the phone to work until I can recharge it. I'd like a phone that is a phone done right the same way as the iPod was a music player done right.
I've had phones which make calls in my pocket, change volume in my pocket and take pictures of the inside of my pocket. How about plain old trademark Apple simplicity.
If they do ipod/iphone integration, I am curious to see if they will revive the rotary dial.
I don't think the battery life will be comparable to the iPods. There's just no way. At best, battery life will be comparable to the 1st-gen iPods. What was that, like 8 hours or something?
Maybe what Apple can do is make the music playing useable only if the battery charge is above a certain %. So maybe if you drop below 10% (or some customizable percentage), you can't use the music player, thus ensuring that you have enough battery for at least a couple of quick calls, and at least several hours of standby time so you can get to your iPhone charger.
I agree. There's a concern that the iPhone will be stifled by the US market, which is years behind the rest of the world. Anyone for a 2G phone with a retractable aerial?
It's not that bad. Both Cingular and T-Mobile are rolling out 3G services. They shoud hopefully be widely available, at least in metro areas, by the end of 2007. I *definitely* predict that the iPhone will be 3G-enabled. The reason is that I think you will be able to buy music from the iTunes store directly from your phone, which implies that it had *better* have hight speed connectivity. GPRS and EDGE are just not going to cut it - it would probably take you 5 to 10 minutes to download a song even at EDGE speeds...
I'm hoping Steve wouldn't compromise on this. He personally tested the iPod to see how easy it was to use in his daily life, so I'm hoping he's giving the iPhone the same treatment.
The iPhone *must* have good reception and call volume and be comfortable to use. And of course it must give a true iPod music-playing experience.
I think you'll see something like good phone + good camera + good music player.
I think the camera will be quite decent too, given Apple's experience integrating the iSight into its Macs.
ought to be coming soon - check this out
Bear Stearns goes as far as making EPS estimates resulting from the introducion of the iPhone. Is Apple going to surprise us all and ship it for xMas !?!?!? I can't wait.
Here's the article:
Apple Computer-AAPL iPhone could add 70c in EPS & $6B in revenue for 2007@BEST
Bear Stearns said in an earlier note, that while there are many uncertainties
surrounding Apple's iPhone, such as the product, launch date, pricing, margins,
etc., they estimate a possible 70c in EPS and $6B in revenues from the iPhone in
the first year. Bear assumes the ASP for the iPhone of $300 and a total unit
shipment of 29M units for 2007. For the latest breaking news, listen to <a
href='http://www.theflyonthewall.com/audio.php' target='new'>Fly Radio</a>
Bear Stearns goes as far as making EPS estimates resulting from the introducion of the iPhone. Is Apple going to surprise us all and ship it for xMas !?!?!? I can't wait.
Here's the article:
Apple Computer-AAPL iPhone could add 70c in EPS & $6B in revenue for 2007@BEST
Bear Stearns said in an earlier note, that while there are many uncertainties
surrounding Apple's iPhone, such as the product, launch date, pricing, margins,
etc., they estimate a possible 70c in EPS and $6B in revenues from the iPhone in
the first year. Bear assumes the ASP for the iPhone of $300 and a total unit
shipment of 29M units for 2007. For the latest breaking news, listen to <a
href='http://www.theflyonthewall.com/audio.php' target='new'>Fly Radio</a>
I understand its a rumors site, but this is the Moby Dick of all Rumors because this is what, the 2nd year we've all gotten hyped up over this thing and they didn't release it? And then everyone gets their hopes up at the next Keynote and then they don't release what you all Wished they would release and everyone starts griping and being all bitter at Apple.
I love rumors, I really do. But this one has Cried Wolf one too many times for me to bother caring anymore.
I love rumors, I really do. But this one has Cried Wolf one too many times for me to bother caring anymore.
I fully understand all the comments in this thread about the features/functionality of an iPhone, but I think if Apple want to really make it big with this, and hit the phone market in the same way that the iPod did, then the connectivity functionality has to be spot on.
Smartphones are somewhat of a niche area of the phone market at the moment, but it is growing. IMHO the iPhone needs to do bluetooth/wifi and 3G well, to allow a wireless connection to your MB or MBP and give you data capability on the go.
Without this, it won't even hit the business end of the market - where the real money is, and the Blackberry/WM5 devices will continue to rule unchallenged.
There's a real opportunity for Apple to wipe the floor here with what they do best - a simple, easy, sexy and cool solution to what is currently a messy and complex market.
Sam
Smartphones are somewhat of a niche area of the phone market at the moment, but it is growing. IMHO the iPhone needs to do bluetooth/wifi and 3G well, to allow a wireless connection to your MB or MBP and give you data capability on the go.
Without this, it won't even hit the business end of the market - where the real money is, and the Blackberry/WM5 devices will continue to rule unchallenged.
There's a real opportunity for Apple to wipe the floor here with what they do best - a simple, easy, sexy and cool solution to what is currently a messy and complex market.
Sam