Honestly: MMS?

[Telp]

I live in the UK, own a UK iPhone and couldn't give a sh*t if MMS never appeared on the phone. I can't understand why given the free WiFi and unlimited data access over EDGE would people want to pay the equivalent of 3x SMS messages to send a picture when there are FREE alternatives.

UK: wake up and embrace e-mail

Emailing involves knowing the recipitants number. Also, people send me photos at times and I cat view them. I can't even access the website with ease. I have to wait till I have a computer and then it is almost not worth it. Whether or not it costs more shouldn't be a reason not to include it. I never really missed mms(didnt have it on my last phone) until people tried sending me pictures and I can't even view them.

 

[zap2]

I would like it...but its not a needed feature.


I'm sure Apple working on it...they aren't stupid!

 

[OdduWon]

Quickmail

Perhaps will develope software that will "Quick" mail iPhone pictures to a user. It could be used for iSights as well. Since there is picture "editing" on the iPhone, and talk of video uploads to YT, email is the way to go. Why not "embrase Email" as others have stated? Last i checked the future moved forward, not backwrds.

 

[KittyToy]

well..... i voted but i'm waiting for my iphone to be able to drive me home at night when im drunk.....yeah what about that update.

 

[ajl917]

I wouldnt use it everyday, but it would still be great to have it...

 

[Maui19]

The saying is a 1000. Pictures are not that good.

Actually, the original proverb is Chinese: "A Picture's Meaning Can Express Ten Thousand Words." It has morphed into "1,000 words" through bad translation over the years.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I still want to know what apple GENIUS Reason for not supporting MMS. They claim the iPhone is the most advance yet lack support for MMS. It really puts a dent in that claim.

Email is not a replacement for MMS nor a replacement from SMS.

Email I view as something is a little longer and not an instance thing sent out. SMS are quick messages that can be sent to the person very quickly, short message you figure they will get almost instantly. Email not so much.

MMS to me are treated as SMS with a picture attach to them (most of the time). I have used the feature a few times like when I was out picking out something for my mother I sent my sister a quick picture of the items and was asking her what she though was better. An Email would of taken longer and I needed an answer quickly. MMS gets a replay faster. My sister has used it forward me a picture her friend took that was crappy looking (it was of a picture of an X-ray of her hand with a dislocated knuckled . It not things that are of really email worthiness and something that just nice to get a quickly replay to.

Also I would not really want my Cell phone sms getting crossed with my emails. They serve to very different things for me.

 

[Consultant]

I still want to know what apple GENIUS Reason for not supporting MMS. They claim the iPhone is the most advance yet lack support for MMS. It really puts a dent in that claim.

Email is not a replacement for MMS nor a replacement from SMS.

Email I view as something is a little longer and not an instance thing sent out. SMS are quick messages that can be sent to the person very quickly, short message you figure they will get almost instantly. Email not so much.

MMS to me are treated as SMS with a picture attach to them (most of the time). I have used the feature a few times like when I was out picking out something for my mother I sent my sister a quick picture of the items and was asking her what she though was better. An Email would of taken longer and I needed an answer quickly. MMS gets a replay faster. My sister has used it forward me a picture her friend took that was crappy looking (it was of a picture of an X-ray of her hand with a dislocated knuckled . It not things that are of really email worthiness and something that just nice to get a quickly replay to.

Also I would not really want my Cell phone sms getting crossed with my emails. They serve to very different things for me.

On the iPhone, send email to
xxxxxxxxxx@teleflip.com
auto forward MMS to other cell phones in the US.

iPhone email
* Compatible with MMS
* FREE, not $0.25 per message

If it works and it's FREE, why do you care what it's called?

Do you care that you have to click start to shut down your windows? How's that vista treating you?

 

[gotzero]

Thankfully, I have found text messaging to fall more and more out of favor as my friends and contacts started to get smartphones, and are now seeing the benefits of e-mail over texting. I think it is a big networking effect, and you are sort of forced to use the standard your friends use.

One reason I am thankful for the iphone is that it has made smarter phones more attractive to more people, increasing the value of my personal mobile e-mail

 

[alFR]

Email I view as something is a little longer and not an instance thing sent out. SMS are quick messages that can be sent to the person very quickly, short message you figure they will get almost instantly. Email not so much.

Can't you just type shorter emails?

 

[nickspohn]

Stop saying that emailing isn't a solution for MMS. Like the others have said, it can be emailed to a phone.

Okay so it takes more time to set up, but do you need to send someone else a picture on their little dinky screen of everything you do during the day?

 

[McLovin]

The bottom line is this: who is anyone to tell me what features I do and do not need on my iPhone.

I paid for my iPhone therefore I think it perfectly justifiable to request/desire MMS. It doesn’t really matter that you don’t use it on a daily basis because everyone’s needs are different. I could do without the weather and stocks, but I’m sure there are people out there that rely on those apps daily.

 

[TonyHoyle]

Thankfully, I have found text messaging to fall more and more out of favor as my friends and contacts started to get smartphones, and are now seeing the benefits of e-mail over texting. I think it is a big networking effect, and you are sort of forced to use the standard your friends use.

You're in a tiny minority then - the average is something like 70 sms messages per person per day and it's increasing exponentially (I don't use anything like that number... but I know people that send hundreds a day).

 

[Ninja Dom]

UK iPhone users, GET REAL!!

Honestly folks, those in the UK downplaying the importance of MMS in the iPhone are really pulling the blinkers over their eyes.

The iPhone is the first decent phone you have ever heard of in recent times that does NOT support MMS. It's not even worth defending the iPhone in this situation - there is no other mobile phone sold in the UK that retails for over £30 that has NOT got MMS.

I know, I work in one of the biggest Vodafone stores in England and use an unlocked 1.0.2 iPhone with my Voda staff sim in it.

MMS is integral to camera phones. The aim is to point, shoot, capture and send (and receive) and have your friends and family being able to see what picture you have taken almost immediately REGARDLESS OF WHAT MOBILE PHONE THEY ARE USING.

Photo's are taken mainly to be shared. MMS is about sharing your photos instantly and its probably the iPhone's biggest flaw at the moment as it cannot interact with almost every other mobile phone in this way effectively.

 

[Cloudane]

^ amen.

I do love Apple stuff myself, BUT not so much that I completely filter out all flaws.

Unfortunately there are a lot of really heavy, religious worshipping types on this forum who will forgive any kind of flaw or missing feature and try to justify their way around it and insult anyone who dares to raise dissent over it.

They could have released an iPhone that wasn't capable of communication at all (forget the iTouch for a moment), and they'd still be saying "well you don't really *need* to make calls. Why not just meet up with the person? Stop complaining" etc.

 

[djellison]

Nick - you're clearly a very avid fan of the iPhone and it's, in your eyes, perfect.

What I can't understand is why you are so damn insistent that anyone who has a feature request you don't share is in some way wrong.

It's not like people are saying the iPhone should make coffee or film 95 hours of 1080i video and last 12 years on a single battery charge. MMS is a very very very reasonable feature request that has been available in hundreds of mobile phone models for years and years.

Asking people to set up email systems is a work around, and work arounds are NOT acceptable on a hideously expensive phone from a company renowned for telling us that it will 'just work'.

Doug

 

[nickspohn]

Nick - you're clearly a very avid fan of the iPhone and it's, in your eyes, perfect.

Have a said the iPhone was perfect? No. I defend Apple and the iPhone when people give reasons like "why the hell doesn't the iPhone have MMS but yet has other things that aren't so important".


There is a clear reason why the iPhone doesn't have MMS. Until Apple says something about it, no one will no. If you have an iPhone, there is no reason to complain. If you don't, well, why are you reading these forums if you don't plan on getting interested in it.

 

[gotzero]

You're in a tiny minority then - the average is something like 70 sms messages per person per day and it's increasing exponentially (I don't use anything like that number... but I know people that send hundreds a day).

I keep a small group of close friends, and due to most of them having all-consuming work pursuits, we started e-mailing like mad when we first got blackberrys, most around the same time. I think my social circle just kind of bypassed text messaging. I see family members and co-workers of mine sending them all the time, but for the people I talk to often, text messaging just does not support the amount of what we have to communicate. I for one love the iphone e-mail picture feature. I can take a photo, and in seconds send it to anyone I want to complete with unlimited explanation, and they can all receive it on their e-mail equipped phones.

If I had more free time, and talked or met regularly with more people in a social setting, I would likely use text messages a lot, but right now, I would be surprised if I hit 70 in a month...

 

[emotion]

You're in a tiny minority then - the average is something like 70 sms messages per person per day and it's increasing exponentially (I don't use anything like that number... but I know people that send hundreds a day).

70 a month. There's no way the average is 70 a day. That's around 2000 a month.

In my circles and age group I send mainly emails.

 

[taylorwilsdon]

70 a month. There's no way the average is 70 a day. That's around 2000 a month.

In my circles and age group I send mainly emails.

There is no way thats a scientific average, BUT, and this is a big BUT, I know plenty of people who send 70+ a day, I've been in that demographic before but I try to shy away from texting now (too hard to do while driving with the iPhone )

Texting has really replaced calling in some of the parts of Africa that I've been too., which I was really surprised by. Its also very big in parts of Europe.

 

[emotion]

There is no way thats a scientific average, BUT, and this is a big BUT, I know plenty of people who send 70+ a day

Indeed. I don't doubt they exist but there are not enough of them to make that number an average.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

On the iPhone, send email to
xxxxxxxxxx@teleflip.com
auto forward MMS to other cell phones in the US.

iPhone email
* Compatible with MMS
* FREE, not $0.25 per message

If it works and it's FREE, why do you care what it's called?

Do you care that you have to click start to shut down your windows? How's that vista treating you?

It is a work around. It still does not solve the problem it is a work around to a feature that I can think of no good reason why it is not supported. It is the only phone out there that cost more than 30 bucks that does not support MMS

Nick - you're clearly a very avid fan of the iPhone and it's, in your eyes, perfect.
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Have a said the iPhone was perfect? No. I defend Apple and the iPhone when people give reasons like "why the hell doesn't the iPhone have MMS but yet has other things that aren't so important".


There is a clear reason why the iPhone doesn't have MMS. Until Apple says something about it, no one will no. If you have an iPhone, there is no reason to complain. If you don't, well, why are you reading these forums if you don't plan on getting interested in it.

I think this post of your proves his point. I would love to here what you think Apple all might reason is.

 

[killerrobot]

Indeed. I don't doubt they exist but there are not enough of them to make that number an average.

Here's an interesting read about SMS in China. I've even heard that India texts more than China.
I think in many developing countries, they just don't have the communications infrastructure that the US or Western Europe does and it's just cheaper to text than talk on the phone.
Until last year when some companies here in Spain started allowing free calls from landlines to cell phones if you were with the same company, texting was always the cheapest way to communicate - and still is if you and you're friends are with other companies.

 

[djellison]

If you have an iPhone, there is no reason to complain. If you don't, well, why are you reading these forums if you don't plan on getting interested in it.

If you have a product, you have no reason to complain about it? That's the second most stupid thing I've heard in this place.

And if you don't have a product, then don't read about it. That's the most stupid thing I've heard in this place.

You started this thread asking if there is a need for the iPhone to have MMS. On your rules, the only people who should read this thread are those that have an iPhone, and anyone who has an iPhone can't complain about it. Thus, by your rules, the poll in this thread is pointless, as the result will obviously be 100% 'I don't need MMS'.

But somehow..it's not. You asked for honesty and you got it - it's a near 50/50 split - very nearly half the voters want MMS on the iPhone. It's one feature, of about 6, that stands in the way of making the iPhone something I would consider buying.

You also state that no one will know whay the iPhone lacks MMS until Apple tells us...but in the same paragraph you tell us that there is a clear reason why it lacks MMS. You're contradicting yourself within the space of a single sentence.

Explain to us why it's not OK for people to have a feature request that you don't share?

Doug

 

[Seamaster]

Two observations:

1. For all those who are rabidly anti-MMS, what's wrong with giving iPhone users, and the recipients of the messages they might send, a choice?

2. MMS will come to the iPhone sooner rather than later. It's a lucrative revenue stream, and operators are desperate for revenue.