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I think the 4.7" and 5.5" will be like the iPad mini retina and iPad air - same internals but different size. It wouldn't be good on Apple's part to make the 5.5" with a lot of better features as a lot of people don't want a phone that big but do want the best iPhone experience.
 
That would be a HUGE mistake. The 5C would have been considered a flop if it were the only iPhone offering of its size. The 4.7 inch model best be a flagship, as most manufacturers are finding that 4.5 to 5.0 is a phone sweet spot.

Again this is your opinion which does not equal truth. I also like the current size, but apple has proven once and again that we want things that might not have been in our taste.
 
I highly, highly doubt this. The iPhone isn't just something you buy on impulse: it's a big purchase for the vast majority of people, and you're usually then tied down to monthly payments.

Even the most hardcore Apple fanboys will have a hard time justifying two devices: the cost is one thing, but you also can't really use two phones easily.

I purchase, or at least consider purchasing, a lot of products Apple release. However it's never crossed my mind to buy both the 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones when they're released.


Personally, if the 5.5" phone has more features and is available in a relatively short amount of time (max. one month after the 4.7" release), then I'll dip my toe into the realm of phablets. If not, I'll still be really excited about the 4.7" phone.

Not what I said. I said many people will be BUYING both, not OWNING both (and there is a gigantic difference).

For example: I have bought every model iPhone. I only own 3 now (my original 2G and a brand new 4S for nostalgia...) my 5S being my primary device.

I agree that not many people will OWN both, but because we live in a society where "most" people want the latest and greatest (and will line up by the millions to get it on launch day), why is it so hard to fathom that people will buy the 4.7, and then get tempted into "upgrading" to the 5.5 in a few months because of the Sapphire screen, or whatever other goodies they include???

They will, and even though you may not, I probably will too. If the 5.5 isn't worth it, no biggie, I'll stick with my 4.7. But if it is, I can either SELL or replace my wife's phone with the "old" 4.7, and get my shiny new 5.5.

And yes, for the poor folks that have 1 contract and no money that would never happen, but there are PLENTY of people that don't fall into that category that Apple can use to their benefit by staggering the release.

It WILL happen. Maybe not for you, but it will.

But no, I don't recall saying people would be using both devices at the same time... just buying both (and selling/finding a new home for one, of course).

Apple doesn't care (for the most part) what you do AFTER you buy it. If you sell it right after you buy it to buy something else, they still count it as a sale to their shareholders. They just want you to BUY it in the first place :cool:.
 
After all the stuff touted about using the iPhone 5/5s with one hand, I can't imagine Apple "forcing" the 5.5" 6 upon new buyers. Samsung's flagship is the Galaxy S5, which is about 4.7". Then there's also a larger model (or 20) with different features.

The 4.7-inch phone is probably going to be the phone for the masses. The larger one, if it even exists, will likely come with a few more bells and whistles, longer battery life, a 3X retina display compared to the 2X retina of the 4.7-inch display, hell maybe even a USB port. Think of the slight differences between the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro, and that's probably what you'll get. So maybe the iPhone 6 Air starts at 32GB of storage, has 1GB of RAM and x hours of battery, and the iPhone 6 Pro starts at 64GB of storage, has 2GB of ram and maybe x.5 hours of battery. And the processor runs a little faster.

I cannot imagine Apple leaving out major features like NFC if it's part of a digital wallet. Apple will need mass acceptance of that hardware to get retailers aboard. Apple probably saw the faceplant of Samsung with Galaxy Gear only being useful with three phones out of the gate and wouldn't want to do the same thing with iWallet or whatever it's called.
 
Zod, what whining. If the smaller iPhone is better than the one you have now, you're better off with it even if someone else has an iPhone with something yours doesn't.

How would it make your 4.7 less suitable for you if the one you don't buy has additional features?

It sounds like you really need to think about why you want the phone in the first place. You sound a lot like someone who views the phone as a status symbol rather than a piece of electronics.

Actually I am into photography, so I would be angry if the 5.5" received OIS while the 4.7" didn't.

Imagine you are shopping for a car and you are looking at a model with a 2-door and 4-door option. You want the sports package because of the bluetooth syncing, additional safety features, and leather seats. However, only the 4-door version comes in sports edition, and only the 2-door fits in your garage.

The whole point is, I don't want to feel like I am getting a cheaper, less able edition of the 5.5". The 5.5" should be a larger version of the 4.7".
 
Again this is your opinion which does not equal truth. I also like the current size, but apple has proven once and again that we want things that might not have been in our taste.

Do you come to Macrumors.com looking for facts?

Also, Apple isn't the company that has proven we need bigger screen. They see the demand for the larger phones from Korea (where the entire phablet trend started).
 
Actually I am into photography, so I would be angry if the 5.5" received OIS while the 4.7" didn't.

Imagine you are shopping for a car and you are looking at a model with a 2-door and 4-door option. You want the sports package because of the bluetooth syncing, additional safety features, and leather seats. However, only the 4-door version comes in sports edition, and only the 2-door fits in your garage.

The whole point is, I don't want to feel like I am getting a cheaper, less able edition of the 5.5". The 5.5" should be a larger version of the 4.7".
You need a bigger garage or different goals for your car.

Just because you want something doesn't mean it will be available. Feel free to be angry, though.
 
Actually I am into photography, so I would be angry if the 5.5" received OIS while the 4.7" didn't.

Imagine you are shopping for a car and you are looking at a model with a 2-door and 4-door option. You want the sports package because of the bluetooth syncing, additional safety features, and leather seats. However, only the 4-door version comes in sports edition, and only the 2-door fits in your garage.

The whole point is, I don't want to feel like I am getting a cheaper, less able edition of the 5.5". The 5.5" should be a larger version of the 4.7".

I think this unfortunately will be the case with hardware differences between the models.

In the case of the car examples, the automotive industry is rife with differences between car configurations.
 
I think this unfortunately will be the case with hardware differences between the models.

In the case of the car examples, the automotive industry is rife with differences between car configurations.

eh the car analogy wasn't that accurate anyway
 
My guess is the 5.5" will slightly bumped cpu speed and 1GB ram more than the 4.7"

Other than that just the sapphire display
 
I honestly don't know which version I'll get. I've been a big fan of the note series, I've owned the original note which I used for a year and a half and the note 3 which I used for 6 months. Every time I've upgraded from the note I've gone for a smaller model and have really enjoyed the portability. The note is great, but I'm a girl with small hands so it gets hard to carry around.

I'm thinking of going for the 4.7 inch but may be tempted by the 5.5 inch.
 
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Probably!! :p

Seriously, though, I'm not going to move my contract renewal date back 4 months for a 5.5".

Not worth it to me to have my iPhone 5 for 2y4m and the 5.5' for 8 months either.



:apple:

I don't know, I wouldn't mind having a 5.5 foot iPhone 8 months longer.
 
Do you come to Macrumors.com looking for facts?

Also, Apple isn't the company that has proven we need bigger screen. They see the demand for the larger phones from Korea (where the entire phablet trend started).

Do you come to MaRumors to say whatever you want and not expect people to reply?

Anyways, you didn't understand what I meant. Apple is not usually the first one to do things, they tend to be the last ones, copy/paste, BT, HD, bigger screen, etc etc etc. At the end they do it better than the competitors and become a most have feature. Also, phablet demand is high in all parts of the world.
 
Do you come to MaRumors to say whatever you want and not expect people to reply?

Anyways, you didn't understand what I meant. Apple is not usually the first one to do things, they tend to be the last ones, copy/paste, BT, HD, bigger screen, etc etc etc. At the end they do it better than the competitors and become a most have feature. Also, phablet demand is high in all parts of the world.

No, i come to macrumors to give an opinion, and have others analyze my opinion and reply with how their opinion compares to mine. I do not, however, expect to have my opinion discredited by the fact it is an opinion. None of us have "facts".
 
No, i come to macrumors to give an opinion, and have others analyze my opinion and reply with how their opinion compares to mine. I do not, however, expect to have my opinion discredited by the fact it is an opinion. None of us have "facts".

You stated that the 5C would have been a flop if it was the only one in its size. You don't know this, this is your opinion. If you can't handle people saying your opinion might be wrong then you have issues. You are using your opinion as a factoid to try to push your idea onto others.
 
Not what I said. I said many people will be BUYING both, not OWNING both (and there is a gigantic difference).

For example: I have bought every model iPhone. I only own 3 now (my original 2G and a brand new 4S for nostalgia...) my 5S being my primary device.

I agree that not many people will OWN both, but because we live in a society where "most" people want the latest and greatest (and will line up by the millions to get it on launch day), why is it so hard to fathom that people will buy the 4.7, and then get tempted into "upgrading" to the 5.5 in a few months because of the Sapphire screen, or whatever other goodies they include???

They will, and even though you may not, I probably will too. If the 5.5 isn't worth it, no biggie, I'll stick with my 4.7. But if it is, I can either SELL or replace my wife's phone with the "old" 4.7, and get my shiny new 5.5.

And yes, for the poor folks that have 1 contract and no money that would never happen, but there are PLENTY of people that don't fall into that category that Apple can use to their benefit by staggering the release.

It WILL happen. Maybe not for you, but it will.

But no, I don't recall saying people would be using both devices at the same time... just buying both (and selling/finding a new home for one, of course).

Apple doesn't care (for the most part) what you do AFTER you buy it. If you sell it right after you buy it to buy something else, they still count it as a sale to their shareholders. They just want you to BUY it in the first place :cool:.

The thing is, you said in your original post that many, many people will buy both. To me, that is a large percentage of people. Put simply, that's just not the case.

The hassle of buying the first phone, transferring information from your old one, using it, paying off the contract, cancelling the contract, waiting for the new phone, buying the new phone, signing up for a new contract, transferring information from the first phone, and then selling the first phone is way too much for most people.
If you have two lines with two upgrades available with one person willing to have a hand-me-down, that's slightly different - though I see that as a very small pool of people.

The majority of people who buy an iPhone aren't technology enthusiasts and just want a phone that works. A few of us may be so impatient that we buy the 4.7" and the 5.5" later on, but if Apple are banking on it to make more money, they are sorely mistaken.

Anyway, enjoy your 4.7" and then 5.5" phone if that's what you plan to do - I see it as quite a good way to try the screen sizes if you have two upgrades (and a willing spouse! :D ), but again, that's not applicable for most people.
Personally, I'll just wait if the 5.5" version appeals to me.
 
It's a phone, that's ridiculous! I really don't like this huge screen phone trend. I get bigger screens are nice, but when you can't comfortably hit all four corners with one thumb it's too big.

You're right.

There's a lot of fear in the Apple community. They don't embrace change. Learning something new can be scary.
 
You stated that the 5C would have been a flop if it was the only one in its size. You don't know this, this is your opinion. If you can't handle people saying your opinion might be wrong then you have issues. You are using your opinion as a factoid to try to push your idea onto others.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, but "Well, that's your opinion" isn't disagreeing. It's not a discussion.

I contend that people want the top of the line iPhone. I contend the 5C indicates that people are willing to pay more for a better product. I contend that the 5.5" iPhone will create a problem for users where the user will have to choose between getting a better phone and getting the size they want. I am of the opinion that is not a great strategy for Apple.

I speak with the understanding that my 4.9" Nexus is probably the largest phone I want at the moment. Maybe my mind will change when the 5.5 is launched, but I'm not certain.
 
I highly, highly doubt this. The iPhone isn't just something you buy on impulse: it's a big purchase for the vast majority of people, and you're usually then tied down to monthly payments.

Even the most hardcore Apple fanboys will have a hard time justifying two devices: the cost is one thing, but you also can't really use two phones easily.

I purchase, or at least consider purchasing, a lot of products Apple release. However it's never crossed my mind to buy both the 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones when they're released.


Personally, if the 5.5" phone has more features and is available in a relatively short amount of time (max. one month after the 4.7" release), then I'll dip my toe into the realm of phablets. If not, I'll still be really excited about the 4.7" phone.

This, this and so much more. Agree with everything you said.
 
Zod, what whining. If the smaller iPhone is better than the one you have now, you're better off with it even if someone else has an iPhone with something yours doesn't.

How would it make your 4.7 less suitable for you if the one you don't buy has additional features?

It sounds like you really need to think about why you want the phone in the first place. You sound a lot like someone who views the phone as a status symbol rather than a piece of electronics.

is that exactly what apple have been brainwashing us all these years? magical device!
 
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