I have a m1 11" Cellular iPad Pro and a m1 12.9" Cellular iPad Pro. The 12.9" has 157 battery cycles and when I use coconut battery sometimes its 87% and sometimes its 88-89%. On my 11" it has 187 battery cycles and when I use coconut battery it varies from 87-90%. On the iPads however under analystics on the 12.9" it says 90%, and on the 11" it says 91%. I feel like the battery health has dipped low considering the low amount of cycles on the device. Apple will not replace the batteries even me agreeing to pay for the replacements. Is this pretty low already considering the cycles? I suppose the only way I can get around this is if I upgrade my devices to the m2, but most people say that it isn't worth the upgrade.
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iPad Pro How accurate is coconut battery?
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It’s below Apple-assessed battery health by 8-9 percent.
Not only is replacing the battery on an M1 iPad completely pointless, it’s also completely pointless to upgrade just because battery health isn’t 100%. If you’re worried about future battery life, never update iOS and avoid heat and you will be fine for a very, very, very long time.
It’s also pointless to worry about battery health on iOS devices. As long as you don’t update iOS and avoid heat and mistreatment, the device will be fine forever. (By forever I mean, for the device’s entire lifespan. For iPads, that can be more than a decade). Seriously, worrying isn’t worth it.
Not only is replacing the battery on an M1 iPad completely pointless, it’s also completely pointless to upgrade just because battery health isn’t 100%. If you’re worried about future battery life, never update iOS and avoid heat and you will be fine for a very, very, very long time.
It’s also pointless to worry about battery health on iOS devices. As long as you don’t update iOS and avoid heat and mistreatment, the device will be fine forever. (By forever I mean, for the device’s entire lifespan. For iPads, that can be more than a decade). Seriously, worrying isn’t worth it.
Not updating IOS isn't an option for me, I want to use my device to the fullest and not miss out on anything. I get what you're saying though.
Okay, then what happens is the following: Apple is very stringent as far as battery health on iPads goes to honour replacements. iOS updates will obliterate battery life. Battery health will be below 80% eventually (sometimes way below 80%) as per Coconut, and Apple will not replace the battery.
Try to avoid heat as much as you can. Also note that battery health is irrelevant on iPads, because updates will obliterate battery life regardless of health.
Which is why I said that initially: it’s not worth worrying about it. Just use it and it will be fine.
Thank you. Do you think that a M1 to M2 iPad Pro update is worth it for the casual user? I wonder if I would notice any difference in speeds when browsing etc?
Comments on "updates kill battery health" are bogus. It's vital to keep up with updates for many reasons. Been using Apple phones, laptops, iPads since before 2010. There is a lot of noise about this concept. But there is no basis in fact behind it.
What I understand about Coconut Battery is it reads the data from the logic of the battery. It's as accurate as that. Not sure how Apple determines battery health in the OS. Could be built in "manufactured capacity standard" instead of actual battery production capacity which can vary.
What I understand about Coconut Battery is it reads the data from the logic of the battery. It's as accurate as that. Not sure how Apple determines battery health in the OS. Could be built in "manufactured capacity standard" instead of actual battery production capacity which can vary.
I don’t think that’s worth it. You shouldn’t notice any significant difference!
Yeah - same thing. And no, updates don't kill battery life.
Show me one iPhone Xʀ on iOS 17 with this battery life. One.
(Screenshot taken on my iPhone Xʀ running iOS 12.3.1, recently).
On this I agree with FellApple. Unless you really need WiFi 6E or the improvements from M1 to M2, may not be worth the effort. I have the M1 myself and don't see enough for me to update. I use it for normal web stuff, photography with Affinity Photo, several drawing programs like Procreate.
A lot goes in to "battery life" results. This is inconclusive and I won't waste time arguing with you over this. For your position to have any weight behind it, you would have to have specific evidence to what in "iOS" updates impacts "battery life". None exists because it's not the issue. All you do with not updating iOS is leave yourself open to bugs and most importantly security concerns. EVEN IF there was positive data to back up your claim, security updates far outweigh any issues one could have with battery life.
I’d add compatibility issues, too. There are tradeoffs to this. I wish Apple allowed me to have everything.
As it stands, I’ll keep my performance and battery life. Like I said, I wish Apple allowed me to have everything (by updating), but they clearly aren’t interested.
For me the main issues with not updating are indeed app compatibility, but also missing features, as Apple is slowing improving iPadOS in small but meaningful ways, especially for more advanced users.
Security is a non issue on iPad, it's basically impossible to hack an iPad without having physical access to it or without some form of social engeneering (i.e getting the owner to install some developer tools from outside the app store). So that's the least of my concern (but I can understant that people worry, since they don't know how it works, and it's always better to play safe if one doen't know).
As for obliterating battery life, you know this, I don't agree. I have many devices, most updated, a few that aren't. Battery life is far from obliterated, at worst standby time is a bit worse, but it changes for better or worse with updates. The latest 17 updates seems to have solved the stand-by issue (but it could change again with more updates).
Overall only very minor differences in battery life and performance for devices with enough RAM and a relatively decent SOC (let's say A12 or later, for older devices it's a different story...). Definitely not worth trading off the iPadOS improvements and app compatibility for me....
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If this were true, there wouldn’t be iPhone 14 pro users complaining about battery health on iOS 16, because… iOS 16 is the operating system their phones shipped with.
And if you suggest “well they still should’ve stayed on the very very first 16.0.0 update their phone came with” I simply cannot take you seriously.
Yes, operating systems and applications do grow more demanding with time, but there are multiple ways to mitigate that.