How Apple Could Make the Move to 4.7" iPhone Displays

[shareef777]

The reason the home screen is a row of apps is because Apple's focus has NEVER been the home screen.

It's all about the apps.

Actually, now that I think about it - my "desktop" is a big grid of "apps" and folders. So what exactly does being "desktop class" have to do with some additional "functionality" on the home screen.

Its a portal, a screen you aren't meant to be on long. Because all the work is done inside the apps. They are the stars in iOS - which is why app quality has always been better on iOS (though the gap has closed). Apple focuses on letting the OS retreat so the user can focus on the apps. Android tries to do everything in the OS, while the apps are secondary.

You like the way Android works, go buy Android.

You seem to be one of those Apple elitist that get all defensive if anyone so much as hints at one small dislike of anything out of Apple. As I stated in my original post, I love their ecosystem, but there's no reason for them to lock it down so damn tight. You say it's all about the 'apps', yet there's no room for Cydia or any of the apps that come out of there?

 

[jrswizzle]

You seem to be one of those Apple elitist that get all defensive if anyone so much as hints at one small dislike of anything out of Apple. As I stated in my original post, I love their ecosystem, but there's no reason for them to lock it down so damn tight. You say it's all about the 'apps', yet there's no room for Cydia or any of the apps that come out of there?

Lol....and any disagreement with you means I'm an "Apple elitist". I'm just telling you why things are the way they are. In no way am I saying one way is better than the other.

I prefer iOS, but there are plenty of people who don't. As for Cydia - if you mean opening up the device ala jail breaking, that too goes against Apple's philosophy. Secure and easy to service on their end because they know what's being put on the phones.

Again - Google has created a pretty good ecosystem. Android devices are as open as you want. I don't understand the desire to turn iOS into Android. They are different for a reason - let them stay different.

 

[kdarling]

The reason the home screen is a row of apps is because Apple's focus has NEVER been the home screen.

Phones are constant companions now, and people depend on them to see what's going on, or what they need to be doing... without having to flip between apps or even pull down a notification shade.

This desire for instant info, is also a major reason for sync'd wearables.

It's all about the apps.

Which perhaps made sense when apps were standalone and single-tasking.

Nowadays, we expect background processing to keep an eye on things.

Actually, now that I think about it - my "desktop" is a big grid of "apps" and folders. So what exactly does being "desktop class" have to do with some additional "functionality" on the home screen.

Jobs was a big fan of widgets on the desktop, and the original iPhone patent drawings noted a widget maker and display unit. I think some form of them will come sooner or later. Could just be an active icon tile, like the Apple clock, calendar and temperature ones.

Its a portal, a screen you aren't meant to be on long.

Mild disagreement. Even Apple has notifications on the lock screen now, which is what used to be the homescreen on some phones long ago.

I think that tablets most of all need widgets and better homescreen space usage. They have very large screens that just cry out to be used as instant info sources.

You like the way Android works, go buy Android.

Oh come on. Love it or leave it? That's silly. It's quite okay to want features that other devices have. There's been plenty of cross-pollination of ideas already, that people have appreciated.

 

[zipa]

I think that tablets most of all need widgets and better homescreen space usage. They have very large screens that just cry out to be used as instant info sources.

Funny that, I'm all for widgets on the phone but I have no need for them on the tablet. It's probably because I really don't use the tablet as a mobile device, but more like a laptop replacement in the living room or on trips. I don't really need "glanceability" on the tablet, since whenever I pick it up, I'm doing a specific task with it.

But sure, I can see how a lot of people would find them useful, and it's not as if the ability to use widgets if desired would in any way be a bad thing.

 

[shareef777]

Lol....and any disagreement with you means I'm an "Apple elitist". I'm just telling you why things are the way they are. In no way am I saying one way is better than the other.

I prefer iOS, but there are plenty of people who don't. As for Cydia - if you mean opening up the device ala jail breaking, that too goes against Apple's philosophy. Secure and easy to service on their end because they know what's being put on the phones.

Again - Google has created a pretty good ecosystem. Android devices are as open as you want. I don't understand the desire to turn iOS into Android. They are different for a reason - let them stay different.

The 'desire' is simple. I love Apple products/apps, but by no means are they the ONLY company that can make quality apps. BiteSMS from Cydia is a fantastic example of what 'apps' can do if Apple didn't lock down their system. I get the 'secure and easy' approach, but what does that have to do with ME wanting to modify MY phone? A simple, you jailbroke it, you don't get support would remediate any support concerns apple would have. Ideally be running the latest version of their code right now (and be secure) if they offered a method to allow jailbreaking. But instead, they force some of their customer base running older code. I wonder what's so secure about that.

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Funny that, I'm all for widgets on the phone but I have no need for them on the tablet. It's probably because I really don't use the tablet as a mobile device, but more like a laptop replacement in the living room or on trips. I don't really need "glanceability" on the tablet, since whenever I pick it up, I'm doing a specific task with it.

But sure, I can see how a lot of people would find them useful, and it's not as if the ability to use widgets if desired would in any way be a bad thing.

Same here, though I can see myself using the widgets on my iPad as I find myself picking it up in place of my iPhone when I'm around the house. It would especially be nice to quickly check the weather, calendar, and notes from a single pane in the morning while having breakfast.