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How can I hook up four projectors to a late-2013 Mac Pro?

DanaProd

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Mar 8, 2014
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Hi all, I want to hook up 4 HDMI 1080P projectors to a late 2013 MacPro. The official Apple spec says,
You can connect up to:
Six Apple Thunderbolt Displays (27-inch), Apple LED Cinema Displays (27-inch), or third-party Mini DisplayPort displays.
Three 4K displays: two connected via Mini DisplayPort and one connected via HDMI.
One 4K Ultra HD TV or 4K display using HDMI and four Apple Thunderbolt Displays (27-inch), Apple LED Cinema Displays (27-inch), or third-party Mini DisplayPort displays.
Two HDMI (HD or 4K) devices: one connected via HDMI and one connected via Mini DisplayPort with an HDMI adapter (see note below).​

Source Mac Pro (Late 2013): Using multiple displays

So how, if at all, can I connect four projectors to this machine? Thunderbolt/Mini Display to HDMI adapters do not work. Or more accurately they allow for the connection of exactly 2 monitors (that is regardless of whether or not I am using the built in HDMI port).

Is there any display adapter technology that emulates or translates the thunderbolt signal to HDMI/DVI or DSUB while still convincing the mac that it is indeed connected to thunderbolt displays?

There are a number of mini display port supporting projectors but I also have very specific short throw projectors and would prefer to stay with HDMI.

I just did some research here and came across this thread
and this comment.

I run 4 monitors. 2 crossover 27" ips displays and 2 1080p monitors. The crossover displays never fire up with 10.9.2. Nothing. They are seen in the system pref but no properties. They are dvi only and worked under 10.9.1 with apple dvi-d adapters. 10.9.2 is a no-go unless I use the previous 10.9.1 .kext and .bundle files with 10.9.2. I have had contact with apple support and so far has been responsive. Hopefully this will work out ok. Otherwise, new monitors :)

Am I encountering the same 10.9.2 monitor setup issues?

thanks!

Dana

P.s. Specs wise this is a 12 core, with dual D700s, running 10.9.2
 
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CH12671

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You can only get 2 hdmi projectors to work at a time. That is the limitation as I understand it. So for the other two projectors your options would be dual link to dvi if the projector has it, or mdp to vga (I haven't heard vga listed as a limited form of connectivity outside of the six total)
 
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kennyman

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@Dana

Are you trying to expand 1 desktop/image to multiple displays (like a video wall) or just trying to clone nMP to Projector 1, 2, 3 and 4 (meaning all projectors showing the same content edge to edge)?
 
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DeltaMac

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Do you need all the projectors to be independent (example: quarter of full screen, with the 4 combined showing the full screen), or will they all show the identical image (one screen mirrored to all projectors)

(kennyman - I'm too slow with the same question :D )
 
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DanaProd

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Mar 8, 2014
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Sorry left out that important bit of info. Yes these projectors all need to be treated as separate monitors, extending the desktop.

CH12671, I'm going to grab some mDP to VGA adapters and give that a try. The projectors don't support DVI but I might try some adapter shenanigans to see if that works too.

I'll keep you posted.
 
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demars

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The limitation only applies to passive adapters. You can use as many active adapters as you want (up to six) because to the Mac it will simply appear that you are hooking up Dispalyport monitors.

In your case you will only need two; you can hook one projector up to the HDMI port and one with a passive adapter, so you would only need two active adapters for the other two projectors.

The active adapters cost around $30 apiece. Here is an example:

http://www.accellcables.com/B086B-006B.html

For this one you would also need a miniDP-DP adapter, since this one has a full size Displayport connector.

Apple mentions this issue briefly at the end of their tech note on multiple displays. They mention the dual-link adapter that they sell; that adapter isn't relevant in this case because 1) you need HDMI, not DVI and 2) the resolution you are dealing with is not high enough to require dual-link. Even if you were using DVI rather than HDMI, you would only need single link active adapters, which are much cheaper than the dual link adapters.
 
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DanaProd

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Mar 8, 2014
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The limitation only applies to passive adapters. You can use as many active adapters as you want (up to six) because to the Mac it will simply appear that you are hooking up Dispalyport monitors.

In your case you will only need two; you can hook one projector up to the HDMI port and one with a passive adapter, so you would only need two active adapters for the other two projectors.

The active adapters cost around $30 apiece. Here is an example:

http://www.accellcables.com/B086B-006B.html

For this one you would also need a miniDP-DP adapter, since this one has a full size Displayport connector.

Apple mentions this issue briefly at the end of their tech note on multiple displays. They mention the dual-link adapter that they sell; that adapter isn't relevant in this case because 1) you need HDMI, not DVI and 2) the resolution you are dealing with is not high enough to require dual-link. Even if you were using DVI rather than HDMI, you would only need single link active adapters, which are much cheaper than the dual link adapters.


Excellent, I'll give active adapters a try. In efforts to get things working I grabbed two official apple mDP to VGA and the combination of HDMI and VGA is now working. I also connected a Cinema Display using thunderbolt. So 5 total displays running and so far so good but I'm still going to test the active adapters as I would like to stay all digital.

Thanks all!
 
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tromlov

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May 26, 2014
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I'm curious. Did you get the active adapters and did you try to hook up the 4 projectors via DVI ?

Best


//Th
 
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DanaProd

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Mar 8, 2014
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I'm curious. Did you get the active adapters and did you try to hook up the 4 projectors via DVI ?

Best


//Th

For a variety of reasons --3d engine output, Syphon, short throw projectors, cable run length-- we ended up deciding it was best to split one almost 4K image into 4 - 1280x800s using a DataPath 4X and a DVI dualLink adapter. It was very stable, the image was crisp. You can see the results here:

http://vimeo.com/93152113

Link to datapath: http://www.datapath.co.uk/products/multi-display-products/datapath-x4
 
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DJenkins

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matthiasbr

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Mar 9, 2015
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Can 1 Mac play 2 HD + 1 SD feed to 3 projectors?

Great thread!

In a multi-projector set-up with 3 distinct video feeds [ 2 HD + 1 SD] – is it possible for a single iMac to run all 3 simultaneously and from 3 different applications?

Grateful for any suggestions on this.
Thanks.
 
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