Other How different does the 120 Hz refresh rate iPhone look to you?

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

The only time I have noticed the difference is when I was swiping between pages of icons on an iPad Air and an iPad Pro simultaneously at the Apple Store. Outside of that specific circumstance, I have to look at my settings to see what it’s set to, otherwise I couldn’t tell.

If the refresh rate is over 60Hz, it’s meaningless to me.

 

[JuicyGoomba]

I feel like these threads come up every now and then just because the person posting them is bored and wants to farm some copium.

Most who say they dont see or care about the difference and would prefer colour accuracy and density just haven't tasted the tech world outside of Apple's bubble for a very long time.

The reality is that Apple's marketing team have successfully made you think that it's a choice between one or the other, despite non-Apple users enjoying both for at least a decade now.

The simple fact is, whether you care or not, Apple are scamming you by not including both "features". It's penny pinching to the extreme and by "not caring" all you're actually doing is feeding the monopoly and lining shareholder pockets.

Thankfully that (finally) changes this year, but you can bet that Apple are going to use 120hz (a "feature" that's been a thing on Android forever at this point) to charge you even more for the 17 series.

As for those coping hard and saying "120hz is only better as an opinion", just lol

Yes, halfing latency, significantly improving responsiveness and interaction on a device that you interact with on a daily basis could never be factually better in every way /s

It doesn't even affect battery life. The way some people go on it's like adding 120hz has suddenly removed 50% of their battery life. Devices with "pro" motion literally have better battery life because the display is capable of going under 60hz when static and then only using 120hz when necessary. Heck Apple are well known now to be scamming people out of that 120hz in iOS by mostly using 90hz.

It's actually embarrassing at this point that an iPhone can't manage 120hz consistently without harming battery life.

YES you can get used to 60hz again after trying 120hz. Great job, have a cookie.

YES 120hz is just downright better in every way and a noticeable and significant upgrade even when doing basic tasks like scrolling. It also increases responsiveness when typing, but who am I to start throwing more facts, we're here to drown in copium right?

NO 120hz will not kill your battery life. The displays capable of 120hz actually improve your battery life considerably, and this has been proven across both iOS and Android.

YES Apple use psychology against you whenever they release a product and trick you into a narrow minded way of thinking that serves to only profit Timmy the fruit Jesus.

YES 60hz is disgusting 2010 tech that has no place in the modern era when it comes to smartphones/tablets/computing.

YES I'm fully aware that this is a post seeking personal opinions on the tech, just thought I'd counter those who prefer to voice their opinions as facts

 

[naught@home]

I feel like these threads come up every now and then just because the person posting them is bored and wants to farm some copium.

Most who say they dont see or care about the difference and would prefer colour accuracy and density just haven't tasted the tech world outside of Apple's bubble for a very long time.

The reality is that Apple's marketing team have successfully made you think that it's a choice between one or the other, despite non-Apple users enjoying both for at least a decade now.

The simple fact is, whether you care or not, Apple are scamming you by not including both "features". It's penny pinching to the extreme and by "not caring" all you're actually doing is feeding the monopoly and lining shareholder pockets.

Thankfully that (finally) changes this year, but you can bet that Apple are going to use 120hz (a "feature" that's been a thing on Android forever at this point) to charge you even more for the 17 series.

As for those coping hard and saying "120hz is only better as an opinion", just lol

Yes, halfing latency, significantly improving responsiveness and interaction on a device that you interact with on a daily basis could never be factually better in every way /s

It doesn't even affect battery life. The way some people go on it's like adding 120hz has suddenly removed 50% of their battery life. Devices with "pro" motion literally have better battery life because the display is capable of going under 60hz when static and then only using 120hz when necessary. Heck Apple are well known now to be scamming people out of that 120hz in iOS by mostly using 90hz.

It's actually embarrassing at this point that an iPhone can't manage 120hz consistently without harming battery life.

YES you can get used to 60hz again after trying 120hz. Great job, have a cookie.

YES 120hz is just downright better in every way and a noticeable and significant upgrade even when doing basic tasks like scrolling. It also increases responsiveness when typing, but who am I to start throwing more facts, we're here to drown in copium right?

NO 120hz will not kill your battery life. The displays capable of 120hz actually improve your battery life considerably, and this has been proven across both iOS and Android.

YES Apple use psychology against you whenever they release a product and trick you into a narrow minded way of thinking that serves to only profit Timmy the fruit Jesus.

YES 60hz is disgusting 2010 tech that has no place in the modern era when it comes to smartphones/tablets/computing.

YES I'm fully aware that this is a post seeking personal opinions on the tech, just thought I'd counter those who prefer to voice their opinions as facts

What arrant nonsense…

 

[ProbablyDylan]

I find that 60hz oled iphones have juddery animations. It's probably not due to the refresh rate since I've never seen that on any other 60hz device. It's like the animations play at less than 60fps.

The models with ProMotion don't have that problem.

 

[FreakinEurekan]

Anyone who votes that they can't tell the difference should probably have their eyes examined. Thoroughly. The difference is absolutely massive.

Now, there are plenty of people who don't care about the difference. That's fine. That's different. That's not the same thing as being unable to see it. Visually, the difference is massive and that shouldn't require a poll or a debate. It isn't debatable.

Sure, I can "See" it. I'd not say the difference is "absolutely massive" but it is noticeable while scrolling.

It just doesn't actually MATTER (to me). I can read what I need to read, the refresh rate doesn't affect that. Which is why I didn't actually vote, because none of the vote options really apply. I disagree (for my purposes) that it's "Better" and frankly, it's not all that much "Different." The refresh rate is higher, yes. But it's like the 15 Pro had an island, and the 12 Pro has a notch. That also didn't affect my usage in any significant way.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Perhaps that could be an option, but you can still choose one of the current options even if you don’t care about it.

Why don’t you care? Legitimate question. Is it because the difference isn’t that much? If it looked significantly better, wouldn’t you have to care? Maybe you don’t use your device very much so it’s not important?

The other issue you ignore is that many, perhaps most (like 95% most), users do not have an A-B comparison to observe. Folks who buy pro iPhones just see pro iPhones and 120 Hz, and folks who buy non-pro iPhones just see non-pro iPhones. Only a very few users know what Hz their phones are, and even less [a tiny number] seek out A-B comparing 120 Hz versus 60 Hz.

Which is why I do not even find any appropriate choice in the OP poll, and hence did not respond. Do note that not knowing and/or not caring does not mean that a person might not perceive strong differences if they did do A-B comparison.

 

[russell_314]

The other issue you ignore is that many, perhaps most (like 95% most), users do not have an A-B comparison to observe. Folks who buy pro iPhones just see pro iPhones and 120 Hz, and folks who buy non-pro iPhones just see non-pro iPhones. Only a very few users know what Hz their phones are, and even less [a tiny number] seek out A-B comparing 120 Hz versus 60 Hz.

Which is why I do not even find any appropriate choice in the OP poll, and hence did not respond. Do note that not knowing and/or not caring does not mean that a person might not perceive strong differences if they did do A-B comparison.

You do have a point that this is not a scientific study. In order for it to be accurate hundred percent it would have to be a blind test between two iPhones inside cases where they could not tell the difference between them.

I was mainly going off of what people perceive the difference as. If this is someone looking at the amazing spec and having a placebo effect like with people spending thousands of dollars for headphone cables because they “sound better” or it’s someone who can’t remember how much worse their old 60 Hz phone was, we don’t really know. It reminds me of someone took the controversial iPhone XR 720 P display and a 4K android display putting them side-by-side, but you couldn’t tell which one was the iPhone. Most people picked the 720P iPhone display as the one they thought looked better even though no one would’ve picked that if they were able to see the phone.

What this poll does accomplish is determine what people perceive about the high refresh rate display. This is likely more important than actual improvement. People’s perceptions are what they used to make buying choices. For example when someone’s looking at the iPhone Pro, one of the big differences is this high refresh rate display. If they feel it’s not better, perhaps they will choose the regular iPhone instead.

 

[JuicyGoomba]

What arrant nonsense…

Love you too boo

 

[Lakris]

I honestly can't see the difference. I use an iPhone 15pro at home and an iPhone 12 at work, noe difference.

That said, it could be something with my eyes as I easily can get nauseous scrolling on different devices, it depends which way the scrolling is, for Netflix the sideways scrolling is horrible, for phones and laptops the upwards/downwards scrolling was horrible a few years ago.I had to make it go the other way as the way it went was horrible for my inner ear or something like that. I get very easily nauseous generally: as passenger at every vehicle existing, taking a pirouette, sitting at a swing, somersault are not possible for me. I don't know if that's why I can't make out the difference between 20hz and 120hz but its a theory.

 

[the-bigwig]

I am actually really impressed that so much people doesn't see a difference. Its just unbelievable and honestly a bit scary

 

[Azzurro]

I prefer to save my battery than using 120hz. I’m mostly using my phone on lowpower mode as I travel a lot.

 

[Ramandeepsingh]

If you’ve been using 60hz this whole time, you’ll notice the 120hz display. After a while tho, you’ll get used to it. But when you go back to a 60hz display, you’ll notice how big of a difference it is

 

[thettareddast]

60Hz --> 120Hz
-day 1: oh, yeah, this seems smoother, kinda cool, whatever
-day 10: *take it for granted*

120Hz --> 60Hz
day 1: wait, is my phone lagging, why is everything jerky?
day 10: wait, is my phone lagging, why is everything jerky?


if you've only used 60Hz, you'll never know what you're missing.
if you've used 120Hz, you'll miss not having it.

 

[roguester]

I can see it. My work phone is a 12. I have the same game installed on both devices and my 15 pro is much crisper and easier to navigate.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

60Hz --> 120Hz
-day 1: oh, yeah, this seems smoother, kinda cool, whatever
-day 10: *take it for granted*

120Hz --> 60Hz
day 1: wait, is my phone lagging, why is everything jerky?
day 10: wait, is my phone lagging, why is everything jerky?


if you've only used 60Hz, you'll never know what you're missing.
if you've used 120Hz, you'll miss not having it.

I don’t know whether it would be nice, or really annoying to have eyesight good enough to notice that. I can’t tell the difference. I can (and do) work on a 120Hz screen for hours, then pick up my iPhone 14 and nothing. No difference.

 

[thettareddast]

I don’t know whether it would be nice, or really annoying to have eyesight good enough to notice that. I can’t tell the difference. I can (and do) work on a 120Hz screen for hours, then pick up my iPhone 14 and nothing. No difference.

your eyes are not using the same reference, because its different visual context - applications, screen size, etc.

with 2 phones side by side launching or closing or scrolling the same app, its very noticeable to me.

its not so much a matter of eyesight quality (acuity)... because its not about sharpness or clarity, but smoothness.

 

[ghostface147]

It’s immediate for me.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

your eyes are not using the same reference, because its different visual context - applications, screen size, etc.

with 2 phones side by side launching or closing or scrolling the same app, its very noticeable to me.

its not so much a matter of eyesight quality (acuity)... because its not about sharpness or clarity, but smoothness.

The point for me is the difference is so minor as to be imperceptible. I’ve used iPad Pros next to iPad Airs and unless I’m specifically looking for it, I don’t notice, and even then only barely. I can’t tell whether my MacBook Pro is set to 60Hz or 120Hz without looking at the settings, and can’t tell any difference when I change the setting.

Setting it below 60Hz on the other hand, is very obvious!

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I have a work iPhone 12 that is 60hz and a personal iPhone 16 Pro Max and to be honest I don't notice a huge difference in use. It reminds me a bit of the hysteria over OLED when the iPhone X came out and when I switched over I seemed to see less of a difference to many of the fans on here.

 

[jntdroid]

YES you can get used to 60hz again after trying 120hz. Great job, have a cookie.

I do every day. Cookies + milk = ❤️

It also increases responsiveness when typing

Is that actually true? It feels true when I'm using 120hz, but I don't know if that's just perception or not. But if it's true, then I feel like this is an actual pragmatic benefit of 120hz rather than just a visual benefit that clearly some notice and some don't (I definitely notice, but don't mind adapting to 60hz because I like cookies... 👍)

 

[MarkX]

I definitely notice it but it's not something that would bother me if I didn't have it.

 

[vermilion_sky]

120 Hz was my main reason to choose an iPhone pro model. I can’t imagine to go back to 60 Hz. The Android phones I used before were at 120 Hz as well.
I immediately notice the difference when using other phones with just 60 Hz and I hate it 😂

 

[Chidoro]

Have it and shut it off on my 14PM. The difference wasn’t some type of epiphany and prefer the battery savings having it off provides.