How do I ask for the correct RAM in a store?

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  1. Porkplan macrumors newbie

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    I got the specs of my Mac already.
    http://www.everymac.com/systems/app...nch-aluminum-mid-2011-thunderbolt-specs.html#

    RAM Type: PC3-10600 DDR3 Min. RAM Speed: 1333 MHz
    Supports 1333 MHz PC3-10600 DDR3 SO-DIMMs (204-pin)

    All I need to know is what exactly do I ask in stores for them to give me the correct RAM that I need? The computer stores in my country are super busy and not very organized so I need to tell them exactly what I'm looking for in order to avoid hassle.

    Thanks guys.
     
  2. phrehdd macrumors 68040

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    Are they providing Apple's RAM or a third party? If the latter, then go to the maker's site and chances are they will list your computer model and what works. As example if they carry Crucual, go to Crucial's site and you'll be able to match your computer to the correct RAM options. If they carry Apple's RAM, then they should provide you with the correct RAM based again upon the model of your computer.
     
  3. keysofanxiety macrumors 604

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    If you just ask for SO-DIMM DDR3 (basically SO-DIMM means laptop memory rather than the bigger sticks you get in conventional desktops). The most important thing is the speed, so if you ask for 1333MHz SO-DIMM/laptop memory they'll know what you mean.
     
  4. divemaster427 macrumors newbie

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    Never buy 3rd party RAM for your Mac. You need to go to an Apple store and tell them what model/year Mac or shop online with Apple.
     
  5. divemaster427 macrumors newbie

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    I should add that 3rd party parts are NOT supported by Apple. 3rd party manufacturers have found a workaround to fool RAM meant for PC's to work for just some time on a Mac. Spend the money on the real deal or you risk wasting money on a fake.
     
  6. tdhurst macrumors 68040

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    Whaaaattt?

    You need an edit in that first sentence.

    It should read "Never buy CHEAP 3rd party RAM for your Mac."

    Head to Crucial or 1800memory.com.

    I've used both in powerbooks and macbook pros since I first had a laptop 10 years ago.
     
  7. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Of course Apple will not warranty third party RAM, but there is nothing special about RAM used in Apple computers. Just buy RAM from a reputable manufacturer that meets the specs and it will work.
     
  8. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    This is complete nonsense and misinformation. The RAM that comes in Apple computers is 3rd party RAM, made by other manufacturers. There is nothing special about the RAM Apple uses. There is no "workaround" in buying RAM from any manufacturer. Just buy the RAM that meets the specifications. Apple doesn't provide any warranty on 3rd party parts, but there is no problem adding RAM in Macs that are designed for user upgrades.
     
  9. rigormortis, Nov 13, 2014
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    rigormortis macrumors 68000

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    my 2 cents to this thread is to point out that your apple warranty / apple care only covers the ram for up to 3 years. where warranty from a major manufacturer like crucial is a lifetime warranty. so there.

    save the receipts for the ram and keep them locked up and if your ram goes bad on you in 5 years , you can maybe get a free replacement

    ram companies like photocopies of your ram chips. when you ask them for an RMA. so maybe you should photocopy the ram chips before you put them in your mac. make sure all the bar codes and serial numbers are legible in your photocopy

    the automatic self test that macs do when boot up doesn't test for ram errors. so make sure you keep that apple hardware test cd handy, in case its not already on your hard disk
     
  10. Porkplan thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Okay so I've found several RAMs available in the stores in my country. Which one of these would be the best choice? :)

    Kingston 8GB 1333 ddr3
    8GB Kingston 1333/1600 SODIMM ddr3 3600
    Kingston 8GB PC3-10600 DDR3 1333 SODIMM
     
  11. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Assuming the vendors are all reliable, get whichever is cheapest.
     
  12. kaldezar macrumors regular

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    Don't talk absolute twaddle, Apple don't manufacture RAM, they like every other computer manufacturer buy RAM from companies that manufacture RAM. Crucial (Micron Technology)are a reputable manufacturer of RAM that is guaranteed to work in just about any modern day computer, there are other companies out there like Samsung,toshiba etc who all make RAM which will work with a mac.:)

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    When you walk into that Apple Store to buy that RAM make sure you arecarrying a sign saying "Mug Me!":p:p
     
  13. divemaster427 macrumors newbie

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    Do why in the world did you buy a Mac? To be cheap about it?

    Twaddle this:

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

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    Here's a better answer than before. Don't listen to these guys. They're selling a bad bill of goods.

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

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    Are you kidding? All 3rd party RAM is cheap. Take it from somebody who's been building PC's for the last 25 years. Mac's are not exactly cheap are they? So why are you being cheap about?

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

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    Well then I guess you were mugged when you bought a Mac. If you want to be cheap about it then stick with a PC.

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/:p

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    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

    ...in case you all are hard of hearing. :rolleyes:

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    NONE OF THEM!

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/:eek:

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    ********

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

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    So which vendors would that be?

    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/
     
  14. Weaselboy Moderator

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    Crucial, Corsair, Kingston to name just a handful. Your random blog post with zero data or information to support the conclusions of the author means absolutely nothing. If you want to post up some real research or testing with actual data showing there is something special about "Mac RAM", then we can have a discussion.
     
  15. divemaster427 macrumors newbie

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    http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/

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    And you have what to offer? Let us know how YOUR tests come out. By the way, we are all spending way too much time on this useless forum. Adios and good luck ;)

    One more time..http://www.pcmech.com/article/whats-the-difference-between-pc-and-mac-ram/
     
  16. phrehdd macrumors 68040

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    Kind of funny that the article offered up in the link (near the bottom) references both Kingston and Crucial RAM for Mac. Both makers are "third party."

    Either it is sad or funny when people offer up "proof" that actually is contrary to what they are declaring. You decide to get annoyed with that person or simply laugh. I'll just laugh.
     
  17. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    That article proves nothing. As we have already stated, Apple does not manufacture RAM, but buys it from third party sources. There is no such thing as "Apple RAM". If you buy RAM from Apple, you are overpaying for third-party ram that you could've bought cheaper elsewhere.

    From that article:
    As long as the specs are compatible with your Mac, it doesn't matter who you buy it from or who makes it.
     
  18. snorkelman, Nov 15, 2014
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    snorkelman macrumors 6502a

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    That 'article' is years old and frankly doesnt have a clue

    its quoting ECC memory as though the whole Mac product range requires that when it's only relevant to Mac Pros with Xeon processors

    The author of that article cant even work out why an older memory module in a size that was top of the line when it was out (and will by then be old inventory sat on shelves and still priced to reflect the RAM prices of the time when it was new), could possibly cost more than a contemporary 2011 module flying off the shelves and selling in the millions of units to then current system builders... :rolleyes:

    Ignore all that and get to the gist of his article, PC memory is ordered based on its speed and capacity, whilst Mac memory is traditionally ordered based on Mac model number.

    No sh** sherlock ..maybe thats cos PCs are available in so many configurations that the only safe way of ordering PC RAM is by being specific, whilst mac model ranges are small enough to offer a freindly by model ordering scheme (with the buyer paying a premium to the supplier for providing that service).


    That convenience does not rule out in any way shape or form the ability to order Mac memory by specification. Provided you know the spec which most folks these days do.


    Apple make mac minis and sell them for 499? then thats the going rate for that item and it isnt available from any other manufacturer. As thats the going rate folks pay that.

    If the guy in the store next door to my local Apple store is selling the same mac-mini for 599 am I going to entertain his twaddle about "not cheaping out" and buy it from him instead? Not bloody likely, he doesnt make them, he's charging over the odds and I can get them next door without his ridiculous markup.

    So why would I ever walk into the apple store and buy RAM from them that they dont make, that they're charging over the odds for and that I can buy without their equally ridicuous markup?

    Bottom line - do Apple set their machines up with narrower RAM tolerances than your average third party motherboard manufacturer, who has to anticipate a far wider range of modules being thrown onto his board, some of which could be from pretty ropey manufacs?

    Quite probably

    Does that mean you're stuck with RAM sourced from Apple themselves when it comes ot a Mac? Absolutely not you just need to know the specs of the RAM that that they fit ino their machines, source your RAM from a decent manufacturer and make sure it matches the speeds, voltages and timings of the RAM apple use themselves. End of story.

    When you buy 'Mac' RAM all your paying a premium for (over a decent manufacturers equivalent DIMMS ordered by spec) is that debateable convenience of someone having gone and worked that out for you.
     
  19. AppleDApp macrumors 68020

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    Please post more of the same link to the same article and argue with reputable forum users. That will work wonders.
     
  20. SaSaSushi, Nov 15, 2014
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    SaSaSushi macrumors 68040

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    As mentioned, Apple does not manufacture RAM. The 16GB of RAM that came with my iMac is Elpida, a Japanese manufacturer which has now been acquired by Micron, an American manufacturer whose consumer products line is Crucial. Crucial makes the additional 16GB of RAM I installed and which works flawlessly.

    The other RAM makers previously mentioned are all excellent choices. Make sure to buy RAM with the specs your machine requires and to avoid no-name brands and you'll be fine.
    Also try to avoid the ridiculous advice you will occasionally read in these forums like to only buy RAM directly from Apple. That's a good way to spend a lot more money for no particular benefit. [​IMG]
     
  21. kaldezar macrumors regular

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    I perused your link and just like your answer it is incorrect, even the writer of the article admits he has no idea about RAM memory. Hardly a reliable source of knowledge! So wake up and smell the coffee, any reputable brand of RAM of the appropriate specification will work as well as and be considerably cheaper than buying from the Apple Store. And BTW I find Apple computers to be cheap given the overall lifetime cost compared with Winslow PC's!::(

     

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