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TheQuest89

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Hello Apple People!

I've been using my ipad mini 1st gen which i brought brand new a few months ago. I didn't realize that apple has completely nixed the ipad mini to complete system crawl with ios 9. Its so bad that safari keeps crashing on me by viewing my favorite sites i browse and its not fluid at all system wide. I seen this video on youtube and it gave me confirmation the only option to enjoy using a ipad mini is downgrade it back down to ios 6 or 7.


Any help or direction will be helpful cause i know damm well apple support won't help me with this. I rather do something with my own hands so i can keep using ipad mini.
 
iOS 9 is jailbreakable. Your best bet is to jailbreak your device first, and see if you can downgrade from there. I don’t know.
 
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iOS 9 is jailbreakable. Your best bet is to jailbreak your device first, and see if you can downgrade from there. I don’t know.

i've never jailbreak a ios device before, i use to be on android so i did the whole rooting/rom thing. How do i go about doing this?

links? info?

thanks.
 
i've never jailbreak a ios device before, i use to be on android so i did the whole rooting/rom thing. How do i go about doing this?

links? info?

thanks.
I don’t have any links cause I don’t jailbreak my device. However, there is a sub forum full of jailbreak information. Just click “forum” in the macrumor main page, scroll down a little bit, and you should see.
 
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I don’t have any links cause I don’t jailbreak my device. However, there is a sub forum full of jailbreak information. Just click “forum” in the macrumor main page, scroll down a little bit, and you should see.

cool thanks. i'll look into it.
 
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The crashing in Safari is not because of iOS 9. It is because you are using an old browser that does not have the most recent plugins and updates. Try doing this on any old Mac or PC and you will experience the same thing. Going to an earlier iOS will most likely just make the crashes happen more often.

Yes, it’s true that going to an earlier iOS will speed up things, but it won’t solve your issues with crashes. Instead, you may want to try to find a third party browser from the App Store that is up-to-date.
 
Apple stopped signing those versions long ago, and if you didn't save your blobs prior to the upgrade, I don't beleive this is a way
 
The crashing in Safari is not because of iOS 9. It is because you are using an old browser that does not have the most recent plugins and updates. Try doing this on any old Mac or PC and you will experience the same thing. Going to an earlier iOS will most likely just make the crashes happen more often.

Yes, it’s true that going to an earlier iOS will speed up things, but it won’t solve your issues with crashes. Instead, you may want to try to find a third party browser from the App Store that is up-to-date.


Thanks for the input, but this is where i'll have disagree on. Cause I'm currently typing this on a Macbook 2008 Core 2 Duo, 8GB of ram. I'm currently using windows 7 and my main browser of choice is Google Chrome its performs very well on this machine. The only reason why it doesn't crashes or goes through crash loops cause i have plenty of ram for this browser to use and the OS currently support google chrome on its latest firmware.

I'm also aware the ipad mini has 512MB of ram and Appe A5 processor, which of course you can't upgrade the ram, io6 and 7 were designed around ipad mini hardware. Now that its on ios9 which i will like to think will it uses up more system resources "which is the ram and processor" is the culprit of safari constantly crashing from not having enough on-board system resources for it to run without it going through crashing or boot-loop crashes.

I've download google chrome onto the ipad and it also suffers from crashing/boot-loop crashes.

Apple stopped signing those versions long ago, and if you didn't save your blobs prior to the upgrade, I don't beleive this is a way

I kinda figure that as well, but of course the interwebs is filled information, so i gonna keep hunting for the information to downgrade the ipad mini to ios 6 or 7. and what are blobs?
 
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what are blobs?
If you didn't save the blobs, then there is no way for you to go back, regardless of how much seaching you do on the interwebs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHSH_blob
"SHSH blobs" (also called "ECID SHSH"[3]) is an unofficial term referring to the digital signatures that Apple generates and uses to personalize IPSW (iOS firmware) files for each device; they are part of Apple's protocol designed to ensure that trusted software is installed on the device.[4] Apple's public name for this process is System Software Personalization (System Software Authorization as of iOS 7+).[5]

SHSH blobs are created by a hashing formula that has multiple keys, including the device type, the iOS version being signed, and the device's ECID (a unique identification number embedded in its hardware).[6] When Apple wishes to restrict users' ability to restore their devices to a particular iOS version, Apple can refuse to generate this hash during the restore attempt, and the restore will not be successful (or at least will require bypassing the intended function of the system).[7][8]

This protocol is part of iPhone 3GS and later devices.[9]
 
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If you didn't save the blobs, then there is no way for you to go back, regardless of how much seaching you do on the interwebs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHSH_blob


hmm, i think when i 1st got the ipad mini which was brand new sealed it back in early october it had ios 7 installed on it. can't really remember. looks like I'm screwed with a ipad mini on ios9. Which you can see the video that ios9 is really not meant to run on this ipad.

Apple planned obsolescence if full swing here folks. Reasons why i can't download Apple Suite of iworks for ios onto the ipad. using MS word which works like a charm.
 
Thanks for the input, but this is where i'll have disagree on. Cause I'm currently typing this on a Macbook 2008 Core 2 Duo, 8GB of ram. I'm currently using windows 7 and my main browser of choice is Google Chrome its performs very well on this machine. The only reason why it doesn't crashes or goes through crash loops cause i have plenty of ram for this browser to use and the OS currently support google chrome on its latest firmware.

I'm also aware the ipad mini has 512MB of ram and Appe A5 processor, which of course you can't upgrade the ram, io6 and 7 were designed around ipad mini hardware. Now that its on ios9 which i will like to think will it uses up more system resources "which is the ram and processor" is the culprit of safari constantly crashing from not having enough on-board system resources for it to run without it going through crashing or boot-loop crashes.

The reason your 2008 MacBook doesn’t crash is because the Chrome browser is up to date with the latest plugins. The fact that your OS is older doesn’t matter in this case. In iOS the browser is part of the OS and does not get updated separately.

I went through this years ago with the original first gen iPhone. I used it for 4 years until 2011, but to avoid it slowing down, I never updated it past iOS 2. However, by 2010 it started to crash a lot while using Safari, and by 2011 Safari became pretty much unusable. Basically I could load the google home page, but whenever I would try to load any site of any complexity, it would crash. I’ve also seen this same thing happen on an old MacBook that was still running Snow Leopard — gradually over time the browser became unusable. The web constantly changes at a somewhat slow pace, but after 2-3 years, if your browser is not kept up-to-date, it won’t be able to load new websites.
 
The reason your 2008 MacBook doesn’t crash is because the Chrome browser is up to date with the latest plugins. The fact that your OS is older doesn’t matter in this case. In iOS the browser is part of the OS and does not get updated separately.

I went through this years ago with the original first gen iPhone. I used it for 4 years until 2011, but to avoid it slowing down, I never updated it past iOS 2. However, by 2010 it started to crash a lot while using Safari, and by 2011 Safari became pretty much unusable. Basically I could load the google home page, but whenever I would try to load any site of any complexity, it would crash. I’ve also seen this same thing happen on an old MacBook that was still running Snow Leopard — gradually over time the browser became unusable. The web constantly changes at a somewhat slow pace, but after 2-3 years, if your browser is not kept up-to-date, it won’t be able to load new websites.


I'm aware that safari is part of the ios, the OS matters playboy. No, OS no way to use a web browser. This is another reason why Google separated the web browser app from android OD so it can get OTA updates over time through the app store. i know the internet changes constantly so does a browser.

Apple needs to wise up and let safari breath, and let it get updates through the app store, but i doubt that will happen cause ios is a closed source operating system, and a way for attackers to attacker a device is through the browser.

I've given up the white flag and not gonna worry about the downgrade.

hopefully when microsoft edge comes to ipad it will blow chrome and safari out the water. :cool:
 
The reason your 2008 MacBook doesn’t crash is because the Chrome browser is up to date with the latest plugins. The fact that your OS is older doesn’t matter in this case. In iOS the browser is part of the OS and does not get updated separately.

I went through this years ago with the original first gen iPhone. I used it for 4 years until 2011, but to avoid it slowing down, I never updated it past iOS 2. However, by 2010 it started to crash a lot while using Safari, and by 2011 Safari became pretty much unusable. Basically I could load the google home page, but whenever I would try to load any site of any complexity, it would crash. I’ve also seen this same thing happen on an old MacBook that was still running Snow Leopard — gradually over time the browser became unusable. The web constantly changes at a somewhat slow pace, but after 2-3 years, if your browser is not kept up-to-date, it won’t be able to load new websites.

Google can update Chrome separately on Android devices. There is no reason that browser cannot be updated seprately.
 
Google can update Chrome separately on Android devices. There is no reason that browser cannot be updated seprately.

That is up to google. My guess is that google has chosen not to update the Chrome app on devices running old versions of iOS. Maybe the newer builds require a newer version of iOS.
 
That is up to google. My guess is that google has chosen not to update the Chrome app on devices running old versions of iOS. Maybe the newer builds require a newer version of iOS.

You can update any Google app from play store even if you running pre-KitKat OS. Google sepatses its app from OS update, so users with older frimware will able to update newest version of its apps.

I see no reason Apple not do the same especially when Apple drop iPhone 5s with iOS 12 updates. More and more people with older phones couldn't update to newest iOS, so they are forever stuck with older softwares. Apple can separate its app update from software update. It can be done
 
join us at reddit.com/r/jailbreak and we will have you figured out soon

you can downgrade but it involves some "simple" tricks after JB your device (very easy) you can also duel boot iOS 9 with any version your iPad shipped on using CoolBooter (aka dual boot iOS 9 with iOS 6)

join us there you'll get your answer quicker !
 
join us at reddit.com/r/jailbreak and we will have you figured out soon

you can downgrade but it involves some "simple" tricks after JB your device (very easy) you can also duel boot iOS 9 with any version your iPad shipped on using CoolBooter (aka dual boot iOS 9 with iOS 6)

join us there you'll get your answer quicker !

You sir, are a God! thank you very much. Will be on reddit religiously.
 
You can update any Google app from play store even if you running pre-KitKat OS. Google sepatses its app from OS update, so users with older frimware will able to update newest version of its apps.

I see no reason Apple not do the same especially when Apple drop iPhone 5s with iOS 12 updates. More and more people with older phones couldn't update to newest iOS, so they are forever stuck with older softwares. Apple can separate its app update from software update. It can be done

Nobody is saying it can't be done, people are just pointing out that Safari on iOS 9 is a very old version of Safari.
 
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You can update any Google app from play store even if you running pre-KitKat OS. Google sepatses its app from OS update, so users with older frimware will able to update newest version of its apps.

I see no reason Apple not do the same especially when Apple drop iPhone 5s with iOS 12 updates. More and more people with older phones couldn't update to newest iOS, so they are forever stuck with older softwares. Apple can separate its app update from software update. It can be done

Sure they can do it, but they do not do it, so you are stuck with it the way it is. I was just pointing out to the OP the reason why his browser is crashing. Going to an even older browser is not going to fix this problem.
 
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