is it worth to go from 5300M? Man I’m gonna wait till info is out to decide where
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How do the new MBP 16 graphics compare to Vega in the previous gen?
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is it worth to go from 5300M? Man I’m gonna wait till info is out to decide where
what is HBM3 and why apple insists on using intel iGP while they can use low-end dGPU like what they did in 2010 and before?!You can’t compare the 5500M Apple uses to the “standard” 5500M. It’s a different GPU. Apple uses the full Navi 14 chip (where the regular 5500M has two CUs disabled), most likely binned and probably with additional optimizations. It is going to be way more energy-efficient. The GPU is likely much more power efficient than what you think. Vega Pro 20 too was only 50W.
I should get mine by the end of the month and I’ll give it a test run
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Not much point. The integrated GPUs have already caught up with low-end dedicated ones. Next year Intel iGPUs are supposed to get another 2x boost — and we are getting HBM3 that solves the cost issues of its predecessor.
Apple never used a dGPU in a 13” model. I assume you are referring to the 9400M which is an integrated GPU. Only at that time GPUs were integrated into the main board chipset, and not in the CPU itself. Same went for memory controllers by the way. Today’s integrated CPU dies that also come with a GPU, memory controller, external port support etc. is a relatively recent innovation.
And HBM3 is a next version of high-bandwidth memory (the stuff used in some high-end GPUs for example). One thing that HBM3solves is the high cost of the platform, meaning that it will be cheaper and easier to integrate into consumer products.
Is the new 5500m good graphics for gaming not that I need it For playing games I have a ps4 and Xbox one but if I wanted to use it is it comparable to gaming laptop graphics
no as in bootcamp they never update the drivers and its not even as fast as a Nvidia 1660
Rene is just a PR regurgitation machine.
That in fact sounds like he's simply reading Apple provided propoganda.
Barefeats will be a good source for this - dropped a nugget on Twitter today in fact
Yes it is good for gaming. It will most likely outperform any comparable multimedia laptop such as Dell XPS 15 and Lenovo X1 extreme. Of course, there are also dedicated gaming laptops (such as Razer Blade) that have better GPUs and will perform accordingly.
I really don’t think it will make any difference. Those cards are not able to game at 4K anyway, so they don’t need as much RAM as their beefier cousins.
Yeah opted for the 8GB.
Opted for the 8GB for the future proof.. Since I'll hold to this one for 5/6 years.
Thanks for the feedback!
Getting it first week of December in Europe
I have noticed that the AMD site lists VR as a feature on desktop version of the 5500 but not on the mobile 5500M. Wondering if this is the hardware issue or software limitation? I plan to use VR to fly the MS Fight Sim next year and lacking this would definitely make it less desiring. What other features does AMD takes out on their mobile GPU? Does they reduce power consumption by taking out features and lower voltage, lower performance? This doesn't count as making it more efficient.
VR isn't a "feature" really.
But it's not a guarantee what outputs a laptop will expose from a mobile GPU. So it's not guaranteed that a particular laptop will have the correct connection for a specific headset. That may be why they don't call it out, to avoid suggesting it is good for VR when it relies on the laptop manufacturer to route the signals correctly.
Does connecting to multiple 4K displays count as graphics-intensive? I just need to be able to connect to 2 4K displays and run lots of productivity programs like Excel, R, PyCharm. No gaming. Should I get the 5300M or 5500M 4GB?
Are there any downsides to getting the 5500M 4GB like it running hotter? I've read that when using external monitors, the discrete AMD GPU is utilized and not an integrated GPU. I ask because it's only $100 more so would I be future-proofing by getting the 5500M 4GB or 8GB? Would the 5500M generate more heat?
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I don’t know for sure, but my guess is that it depends on the lack of the draw. Technically, both GPUs have the same TDP but the 5500M has more enabled cores. On average, the 5300M probably runs cooler under load, but the only way to know it for sure is to test large sample of laptops.
As far as future proofing goes... if you know that you are not a gamer and that you are not going to do any heavy content creation, what would be the purpose? Except maybe if you want utilize GPU for machine learning but then you need some sort of Metal framework and I don’t know that any exist for Python/R. But even then, will 10-15% peak performance make a difference?