How do you feel about the removal of Dashboard?

Discussion in 'macOS Catalina (10.15)' started by ASentientBot, Jun 5, 2019.


What are your opinions on the removal of Dashboard?

  1. I'll really miss it!

    36 vote(s)
  2. Too bad.

    9 vote(s)
  3. Neutral.

    21 vote(s)
  4. Seems reasonable.

    25 vote(s)
  5. Good riddance!

    45 vote(s)
  1. ASentientBot macrumors 6502a


    Jun 27, 2018
    the System suitcase
    Personally, I'm not happy about this and will have to look for an alternative. What do you guys think?

    Poll above.
  2. StellarVixen macrumors 68000


    Mar 1, 2018
    Unnecessary removal of feature, for which there was no good reason to remove, other than “it’s too old”. The thing is, there is no better thing to replace it. You remove the feature when you have something better to take its place. For Dashboard, there is nothing. Notification Center widgets are lame compared to Dashboard functionality.

    The way tech headlines are written is also laughable. “Apple FINALLY kills Dashborard”. “Finally”!

    Like it’s something that was all giving us trouble, and we couldn’t wait for it to get removed.
  3. retta283 macrumors 6502a


    Jun 8, 2018
    Kingman, AZ
    Have to agree with StellarVixen. It's crazy how many people are cheering on at the death of something that never concerned or affected them. It was a great feature that I still used, and I will miss it. Sadly Apple does not provide a suitable replacement at this time.
  4. redheeler macrumors 604


    Oct 17, 2014
    This might be an unpopular opinion, but I am neutral on this. Apple clearly isn't willing to update or modernize it, and the Notification Center widgets do provide a lot (though perhaps not all) of the same features.

    I do understand the frustration for those with 10+ year old legacy Dashboard widgets that are no longer being developed and have no replacement in Notification Center. But the lack of 32-bit app support in Catalina is a much bigger problem overall, as it's going to break plenty of older unmaintained apps and frustrate a lot of people. You'd think Apple could keep 32-bit support around a bit longer.
  5. jbachandouris macrumors 601


    Aug 18, 2009
    Upstate NY
    I am also neutral on this as I use it very infrequently.
  6. Brad9893 macrumors 6502


    Feb 8, 2010
    Hiding Under the Genius Bar
    I love Dashboard, but it has been rotting for years. Plus, this is Apple, so it should not be a surprise that this happened. In fact, I'm surprised that it hung on as long as it did – I was sure it would be removed a long time ago. They haven't touched Dashboard in a really long time, and pretty much every single widget (even the third-party ones) has been abandoned (and a lot have broken too).

    Perhaps this is a good chance for a third-party developer to step in and create a Dashboard replacement.
  7. MisterSavage macrumors 6502a


    Nov 10, 2018
    Completely neutral. Never used it but would have been ok if they kept it for people that did.
  8. RickGrimes macrumors member


    Mar 9, 2019
    I had forgotten all about it. So clearly I’m not gonna miss it.
  9. miniroll32 macrumors 65816


    Mar 28, 2010
    I'm in the camp that stopped using it once Spaces arrived. Then, I just set up a space dedicated to Stickies, Calculator, etc...

    I don't miss it at all, but then it never did any harm having the option either. I guess Apple just wants to re-focus the OS and ensure features remain consistent.
  10. alexclst macrumors member


    Dec 24, 2007
    Saint Paul, MN
    I used to use it, heck I even wrote some widgets for it, but haven’t used it pretty much ever since the Today tab appeared in Notification Center. So, I’m really kind of neutral on this. Never bothered me that it was still an option, but since I haven’t used it recently can’t miss it either.
  11. KALLT macrumors 601

    Sep 23, 2008
    How do you know this? Perhaps Dashboard is based on legacy technology elsewhere that Apple didn’t want to or couldn’t support anymore, like the older WebKit. If they weren’t interested in the feature anymore, they might have decided against spending resources on updating the code.
  12. haralds macrumors 6502a


    Jan 3, 2014
    Silicon Valley, CA
    I have been using the Dashboard for years for simple widgets like weather in various places, time in time zones, ink level in my HP printer. and unit conversions. I run it in its own space. A simply swipe and I have the info right there.
    The Notification bar Today View does not compare.

    I think people using spaces will have more use for the Dashboard.
  13. poiihy macrumors 68020


    Aug 22, 2014
    The Dashboard has been useless to me for the longest time, and I thought it a bit odd that mac OS still had it as it was stuck way back in the past. So this removal is as expected.
  14. WebHead macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2004
    Only used it for iStat and IceTV. iStat menus here I come!
  15. TimothyR734 macrumors 65816


    Apr 10, 2018
    Logsden Oregon
    I have loved using the dashboard since Tiger sad to see that its going the way of iTunes
  16. fisherking macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2010
    ny somewhere
    itunes is just becoming a group of focused apps... makes sense. very different from dashboard, which is completely gone... (i haven't used it in so long i barely knew it's been around thru mojave)...
  17. TimothyR734 macrumors 65816


    Apr 10, 2018
    Logsden Oregon
    yes but iTunes and dashboard is what made macOS fun to use but I understand the reasoning kinda like when Windows decide to make the media center a paid app
  18. mikecwest macrumors 6502a


    Jul 7, 2013
    Ha, I thought it was gone already...
  19. fisherking macrumors 604


    Jul 16, 2010
    ny somewhere
    dashboard=fun? try the calculator in the notification center, the notes app, forecast bar... etc. there are apps, websites, for everything. and the new apps that replace itunes should be just the same, overall; apps to play music, watch video...
  20. hugodrax macrumors 6502a

    Jul 15, 2007
    Huge loss for me. I have a million stickies with notes etc I reference. What will happen to them? I am not going to upgrade till forced.
  21. dragon13 macrumors member

    Nov 10, 2008
    I've been dreading this. Been using it heavily since it was introduced.. for notes, calculator, currency, weather, world clocks.. it's extremely useful in my workflow.
    I even use the Karabiner app to take back/remap the launchpad button on my MBP for it. It's 1000x more useful than having launchpad.
    Overall, if they do end up killing it off, I hope some dev can make something to replace it.
  22. petvas macrumors 601


    Jul 20, 2006
    Mannheim, Germany
    I haven't used it for ages, so I don't care at all. The dashboard has been in coma for years now. No development at all and Apple had said many times that the Dashboard is a legacy feature. If you are still using it, then I am sorry, but it's time to move on.
  23. WebHead macrumors regular

    Dec 29, 2004
  24. ASentientBot thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Jun 27, 2018
    the System suitcase
    Dashboard widgets are almost entirely web based, with a few Apple provided libraries for saving/loading preferences, starting native processes, and such. I think the solution could be as simple as a WebView or Electron app including some JS files copied from Mojave, plus a very simple backend to reimplement those features.

    It might even be possible to simply copy the Dashboard app and supporting frameworks directly from a Mojave install.

    Once I'm less busy with school and the Catalina on unsupported Macs project, I might take a look at it.

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