How do you maximize a mac screen?

[wrldwzrd89]

This is the most entertaining post in this thread.

Think what ever you are going to think, but if you reread the thread (specially your contribution) you'll see that others have used much stronger language against me than I ever did in my alleged windows hate rampage.


Well, that is an amazing read of what happened.

Funny, as it looks like I pointed out that there were two philosophies on this point, one way (which Apple uses, but so does SGI and NeXT as examples of others) based on a rootless application environment and another way (used by Microsoft and StarOffice as two examples) based on a rooted application environment. And I fall squarely in the camp of the rootless application environment (even when Apple makes rooted apps), and I see no reason to apologies for that. Nor do I see how that can be read as me being a windows hater. I just really don't like rooted applications and the philosophy that led to them.

The original poster was new to Macs, he deserved a clear explanation of why a feature he used while in Windows is not part of the Mac environment (but is part of the Windows environment).

No one here (specially not you ) has provided a legitimate argument that says that what I stated was wrong. Mainly because (even if I have a definite side on the rooted/rootless issue) the history of the choices made by these companies is well founded. All the companies and products I discussed had to make design choices that would have effected their implementations. In most cases (Apple and Microsoft) the reasoning behind those choices is not a secret.

Sadly, the technical aspects of all this seems to have escaped you. I guess when you can't comprehend things you default to simplified labels like windows hater.

Well, at least your post made you look worse than it did me. But it did give me another opportunity to restate my position, so thank you for your post...

Please post again.

One curious note about rooted/rootless implementations - Mac OS X is rootless; Windows is primarily rooted; X11 is the most interesting of all (it's usually rooted, but the applications inside it are rootless; Apple's X11 being the most notable exception - both X11 itself and X11 applications are rootless).

 

[Timelessblur]

blah blah blah.. off topic debate that does not belon in this thread

I was making a point on how you turned this tread from a guy asking a honest question to a chances to bash microsoft. if you would stop posting trying to tear MS to shreads everything stigle time the poor guy who posted at the begining might get some real help.

Btw most of your post are full of ignorances about windows. I not going to bother correcting them because I dont want to get drain into yet another pointless thing. Rootless/Root debate is OFF TOPIC. Make your own thread if you want to continue the debate. Please trying to get back on topic and try to help the guy out.

As more people switch over to mac and start using macs more quiestion like this one will come up. It is treads like this that make the mac cominittee look like crap and have the attude if apple does do it it is the best way. it apple does not do it it means it is crap and show not be done.

Either way please everyone try to get this tread back on topic. RacerX the best way for you to help is to stop posting or make a short post to answer the guys question. Everything started with you first post.

 

[RacerX]

Btw most of your post are full of ignorances about windows.

So in other words, you have no idea how to counter anything I said.

That is fine, from what I can tell, you're a Windows gamer with little technical background. I highly doubt that you actually no much about Windows (beyond what the average Windows user knows).

But, you could try to prove me wrong on this... back up your words. Show me (and the world) my ignorance on the topic of Windows. It should be interesting.

 

[feakbeak]

Awwww... now this is starting to get fun! I actually feel a little bad as I initially started this trouble with my response to RacerX's initial post. I did sense some Windows dislike and probably just should have let it go, it is his opinion. I thought we had settled that though. Then, everyone else jumped in. Sorry everybody.

Wasteland... here we come!

 

[RacerX]

I thought we had settled that though. Then, everyone else jumped in. Sorry everybody.

So had I, but some people had to jump in.

The least that they could do is attack my arguments. It sure seems like they are substituting attacks on me for a logical counter argument (specially when I thought both sides had been articulated quite well already).

But I'm not taking it too personally. From what I can see, blur is a Windows troll (or at least a Windows apologist). I'm just curious if he can back up his statements.

Otherwise, the meat of the thread has already past back with our exchanges. And I could see where you would have mistook my comments as hating Windows, but I sure wouldn't own tons of versions of something I hate. Windows isn't the cheapest of operating systems when purchased as stand alone versions (not bundled with hardware).

 

[Timelessblur]

So in other words, you have no idea how to counter anything I said.

That is fine, from what I can tell, you're a Windows gamer with little technical background. I highly doubt that you actually no much about Windows (beyond what the average Windows user knows).

But, you could try to prove me wrong on this... back up your words. Show me (and the world) my ignorance on the topic of Windows. It should be interesting.

hee hee funny. You are talking with some who builds his own PCs. The person who people come to help solve their problems and I dont mean the average users. I am some one where friends who are of the techal minded will come to for help. I spent 5 hours last night helping a friend of mine who is very techacil minded getting windows back up and running. After it was all said and done the orginal problem traced down to be a hardware problem not a software and it turned out to be about out to be a very low on the list of guesses. I know the limition of formating before the SP1 cds. I know a hell of a lot more than you and my techacil minded side it strong. Dont try to mess with me. I know more about the underlining of OSX than the average mac user. You stating you are a gaming me next to noughting to me because I seen gamer who still use me for tech support.

I know a heck of a lot more but as I stated I refuse to turn this into a mac vs PC debate as you have so nicely done. IF you want to have this debate make you own tread do not ruin some else honest question with you attude and windows hate. You hijack this tread. it was an honest question but you turned it in to another one of those famus treads on how windows sucks macs are better and anything windows does sucks and is crap.
Make you own thread if you want ot coninue this. I not going to bother disproving you crap in here

 

[RacerX]

I not going to bother disproving you crap in here

Could you at least edit your last post so that your thoughts could be understood. it is almost like they are a blur.

I know a hell of a lot more than you and my techacil minded side it strong. Dont try to mess with me. I know more about the underlining of OSX than the average mac user. You stating you are a gaming me next to noughting to me because I seen gamer who still use me for tech support.

I'm guessing that this means you think you know more than me (I may be reading this wrong, I can't really tell). Odd, as I was using and being paid to support Windows while you were still in grade school (assuming you aren't still there).

 

[Timelessblur]

Could you at least edit your last post so that your thoughts could be understood. it is almost like they are a blur.


I'm guessing that this means you think you know more than me (I may be reading this wrong, I can't really tell). Odd, as I was using and being paid to support Windows while you were still in grade school (assuming you aren't still there).

Insult the person with dylixia all you want. Try I am an engineeing student over 1/2 though the degree plan. You prouble can understand network better than I can since I never really look up stuff on that and never really need to deal with more than simple networking . I also not be surpised if I know more than you in a lot of the areas that windows involves in use ablity. Going to personly attacking me reduces the meaning of anything you had to say.

Also you while you where being paid and where windows is now it a HUGE diffence. You might as well start comparing it to OS 8 and OS9 but no people thing XP is windows 95 and 98 and then compare it to OSX which is unfair.

How would fair would it be to comapre my experce on those POS Mac computer that my grade schools used that where out date compared to windows box I had at home. The home windows 95 was 10 time more stable faster and it just work. School computer would lock on constanting in the middle of me working in a word document Would lock up if I ejected a disk using the speal command and not drop it in the trash compared to where i just had to hit a button on windows.

 

[RacerX]

Insult the person with dylixia all you want. Going to personly attacking me reduces the meaning of anything you had to say.

I wasn't trying to insult you or attack you, just pointing out that comprehending your statements is difficult. If you have dyslexia I would highly suggest getting yourself a Mac.

You see I'm dyslexic too. The difference is that (1) my computer spell checks everything as I type, and (2) I have it read back everything to make sure that what I'm writing is actually what I am wanting to say. And I know that having dyslexia makes it hard to proof read your own work. I, personally, could not imagine trying to post without these tools.

As for feeling attacked, you should first consider that you started this with an (unprovoked) attack on me. If you are not emotionally up to following through with such attacks, I would recommend that you not attempt them in the future.

Also you while you where being paid and where windows is now it a HUGE diffence. You might as well start comparing it to OS 8 and OS9 but no people thing XP is windows 95 and 98 and then compare it to OSX which is unfair.

I was caring mainly for Windows NT workstations and servers. That was why I bought Windows NT 3.51 Workstation and Windows NT 4.0 Workstation and Server. I needed to be fully knowledgeable on those systems. The same with Windows 2000 Professional, except I was given a copy to work with. Plus I still have all my MCSE materials for Windows NT 4.0 and 95. I was still professionally supporting Windows up to the Summer of 2002, at which point I stopped supporting Windows (after Microsoft attacked one of my clients).

How would fair would it be to comapre my experce on those POS Mac computer that my grade schools used that where out date compared to windows box I had at home. The home windows 95 was 10 time more stable faster and it just work. School computer would lock on constanting in the middle of me working in a word document Would lock up if I ejected a disk using the speal command and not drop it in the trash compared to where i just had to hit a button on windows.

Not as fair as comparing my extensive experience with Windows to the current versions.

The last version I worked extensively with was Windows XP, though more with Windows 2000 Professional. Those are Windows NT 5.1 and 5.0 respectively, and Windows is still on XP the last I looked.

And as pointed out earlier, it doesn't seem to offer you any of the tools to help you over come your problems, which I can only imagine are hurting your school work as well.

Word of advice... get a Mac.

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

Will the two of you, PLEASE, stop the quite useless Mac vs Win debate... it has no place here... take it elsewhere before this thread, with it's valid original question is rather unescessarily going to be wastelanded...

Cut it out! Now! Or do we have to call in the mods...???

 

[Timelessblur]

those tools macs have, would not use them since lets see I dont like Safari and yes I have used it I just really dont like it. I would be using Firefox and I do like the mac verson. Plus I would turn off the system wide one since it woudl drive me nuts. In MS word depending on what I am doing depends if I turn it off their ro not but more offen that not I have it on. Unless I am taking notes on it then I turn it off for my sanity and go back and fix it later.

Also my spelling skill and grammer skills are also much weaker in them selves than a average (even an average person with dyillixia) so it takes a double hit. I like macs and all but I hate the comminittee and a lot of thier attuded. Way to much eletism for my taste. It well known my opinan on the apple zealots where I think of them as the worse of the 3 (windows linux and apple) I dont like any of them but I hate the apple ones by far the most and I run into them more than the others. Next comes the windows Zealots and the linux ones I dislike the lieast of the 3. I still can not stand them but they are better than the other 2 and apple ones being by far the worse. I know if I am having trouble in windows I can almost always go to a windows Zealot for help. If I have a mac and have trouble I more time than not an apple zealot does not know what to do about it they think apple is god. Linux I know I could always go to a linux Zealot for help.