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yeah I can think of a reason you would want to send an SMS over an iMessage:

you're on your iPhone iMessaging someone on their iPad (or iPod Touch) all well and good, then they have to go out, obviously they leave their iPad at home and pick up their phone to take with them. (it doesn't even have to be another mobile, it could be an iPhone but they don't have data turned on).
If you then want to message them you know you would have to use SMS but it will want to send it as an iMessage as their iPad is connected to their wifi at home.
as I understand it this would be a problem if the iMessaging email address and mobile number were under the same contact. so splitting the contact in two would solve the problem (but splitting a contact is hardly ideal).

has anyone tried, say, long pressing on the send button when it is in iMessaging to see if it gives you different sending options? or trying out this scenario out?

you kinda don't make sense with that scenario, if you're messaging them on their iPad, then its going to an email address. if they then take a phone out, you message their mobile number..... it's 2 seperate things in that sense. for example, the other day, my mate has iOS5 on his ipad, that was one convo, then he text me from his mobile, that was a seperate convo in the messages app.
 
If you are on VZW and have the unlimited SMS plan - SMS's are free in North America but data is not. In other words, I can SMS to the US while visiting Canada but if I were to turn my data on it would charge me. Hence, I would like the option of switching to SMS from iMessage when I visit Canada such that I can communicate with my wife without having to empty my wallet.
 
If you are on VZW and have the unlimited SMS plan - SMS's are free in North America but data is not. In other words, I can SMS to the US while visiting Canada but if I were to turn my data on it would charge me. Hence, I would like the option of switching to SMS from iMessage when I visit Canada such that I can communicate with my wife without having to empty my wallet.

just turn it off when you don't want to use it then, simples! :)
 
you kinda don't make sense with that scenario, if you're messaging them on their iPad, then its going to an email address. if they then take a phone out, you message their mobile number..... it's 2 seperate things in that sense. for example, the other day, my mate has iOS5 on his ipad, that was one convo, then he text me from his mobile, that was a seperate convo in the messages app.

I don't have iOS5 as I'm not a dev, so I was just throwing a scenario out there, if you can get around this problem by creating (or the device creating) a new thread (one for SMS and one for iMessage) then that pretty much sorts the problem, even if it's not a pretty solution (since you would have to switch between threads to see past convos)

and was his iMessage email stored under the same contact as his mobile number in your phone? if so then it's good how it differentiates them.
 
... there is an option to turn it off? Because I did not find any.

yep you can turn off iMessage if you don't want to/can't use it (because of cost), it's somewhere in the settings.

you can also completely turn off SMS if you want to also, if you just want to use iMessaging
 
I know this is a bit old tread, however, I have one scenario, when I need to send SMS instead of iMessage and do it just with one message.
My wife has an iPhone 3GS but has no data plan. At home, we have wi-fi, so she can receive iMessage. However, when I know she's not home (shopping or whatever) and I need to send her message, I need to use SMS instead of iMessage, but I don't won't to turn it off because other my friends have data plan and I can text them iMessage. I really need to send just one SMS instead of iMessage.
 
When you send the message, click on the blue bubble & there should be an option to send it as an SMS text message.

I think.
 
When you send the message, click on the blue bubble & there should be an option to send it as an SMS text message.

Yes, I found that and tried that. It sent the message again as SMS (which I wanted and thought that's the solution), but when I wanted to send one more message it was still iMessage. My wife's iPhone then received the SMS and when I connected it to wi-fi, it received also the original iMessage. So two same messages.

It is kind of solution, but not he optimal. If there was any option to send the SMS in the first place, it would be the best solution...
 
I do understand the need to choose between the two. Here is another scenario. I live in the UK and my family in Spain. We previously used whatsapp to send texts and photos. This morning I tried sending an iMessage to my brother and it didn't go through... the text was sent as SMS... to Spain (not exactly cheap!!!)
 
Exactly. I travel a lot - in Europe and the US and when I'm abroad I generally don't have data. The reason I ask the question is I have roaming off abroad and was wandering if I'm roaming on a foreign network and I want to send someone a message, I'd rather be able to choose SMS or iMessage (if I'm in a hotel with WiFi or I find some free WiFi somewhere). I don't want a whole bunch of messages being queued up waiting to be sent.

I think its a bit convoluted that the only way around this seems to be turning off iMessage. Unless it knows as there is no data.

Thanks for all the replies so far

pac

I'm from the UK and on Orange, and off to Denmark in a few days and iMessage certainly got me thinking about usage. I'll basically be roaming and using a Danish carrier therefore iMessage would send/receive using data - which isn't cheap in the EU as we all know.
So would rather have more control over how messages are sent. Sadly it's not possible is it. I'll be turning iMessage off when I'm not near Wi-Fi.
(or as it's just a few days I might suck it and see how much I get hammered with data-usage costs!)
 
I know this thread is a bit old, but i have a reason why...no matter what I do, my iphone won't realize that my husband no longer has an iphone!! it wants to send him imessages!! I can turn the feature off and it's not a big deal for me, but i like the imessage feature when talking with my friends/family that use iphones. I've tried everything from completely erasing him from my phone and it still wants to send him imessages instead of SMS messages. I have a new thread in in this forum but so far no one has responded :(
 
I know this thread is a bit old, but i have a reason why...no matter what I do, my iphone won't realize that my husband no longer has an iphone!! it wants to send him imessages!!

I have a similar problem, when my wife leaves the house and has her data off, my phone still keeps sending iMessages .... And 5 minute times for everyone of them. It needs to be an option, but apple is not good at options.
 
I have a similar problem, when my wife leaves the house and has her data off, my phone still keeps sending iMessages .... And 5 minute times for everyone of them. It needs to be an option, but apple is not good at options.

My issue with this is that Verizon Wireless does not support simulatenous voice and data, therefore, iMessaging someone while they are on the phone is useless until they hang up. Of course, same is true for my own phone. The iPhone does not seem to recognize that is the case, and will simply try to iMessage forever. You can then tap to send as a text message, but I do not always know when someone is on the phone or not.

Apple needs to realize that people do things differently than they do, and therefore options need to be a part of the game. That is why Android has taken over. Those phones are not nearly as good, but the options that are available intrigue customers.

Back in the day, Apple made outstanding decisions and mostly because whatever they did was perfect execution of the idea. The past two years, their execution of their ideas is poor. Just need to elevate themselves a bit and they will be excellent as they once were. The idea has merit, the device is outstanding, but the software is just under executed.

Anyone else experienced this? I am hoping I am missing something instead of having to hold out until Apple improves on something they think is perfect (never happen).

Thanks.
 
I wanted to post that I found a solution, immediately after you send an imessage, tap the blue bubble and it'll ask "copy" or "send as sms" (or maybe "send as text message" I can't remember). I did that about 5 times for my husband's phone and now it automatically sends him SMS messages instead of imessages, thank goodness!
 
Another option is to tap and hold on an iMessage you just sent and an option to send as text message should pop up.

This only works on the most recent iMessage sent.
 
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