My question is: How do you use Mac Mail with an Apple address (such as mac.com, me.com), without using the new 'iCloud' system? My question rather is, how do you operate Mail as a standard "deliver mail message for local storage on MY computer, and delete message(s) from server simultaneously after delivering? Much as in POP but Apple Mail services do not seem to subscribe to that standard. It seems as if any curious eye or employee at Apple with proper permission could go delving around in various iCloud account folders on the server at any time, making none of this 'iCloud' truly a secure way of handling things. The data is stored on their computer (Massive Data Center), and any application and files on iCloud are on an Apple server which I am sure can be accessed at some level within the Apple ecosystem, thereby making it not secure and not private by any means, but rather public, invasive, and a breach of security for anybody who is concerned about who has access to your personal data, files, contacts, phone numbers, appointments, and even your photo library if you choose to use their iPhoto program. I am therefore casting a vote of No Confidence in iCloud. Hell my modem activity light doesn't even blink anymore if I am signed out!!! So just happy for once that my iSight camera wasn't actually hacked. LOL. Anyways. Is this taking it to the extreme?