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How does Apple put the RC on millions of new, unreleased devices in less than two weeks prior to them shipping? Things that make you go Hmmmmm......
 
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How does Apple put the RC on millions of new, unleased devices in less than two weeks prior to them shipping? Things that make you go Hmmmmm......
I've always wondered about the too. When do they flash them and with which build? besides this, I'm fascinated by the logistics behind it all. I'd love to see a documentary but I highly doubt that would happen.
 
I had this exact thought whilst laying in bed the other night.

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The build we receive is not the build they load into those new iPhones for sure. Because of the size of the OS, I’d imagine merging every change into the master branch would take a little while, logistic wise, not compiling time. You will find some iPhone having software versions like 14.1 or even 14.0.1 if you are lucky when the public release is jumping to 14.3. Same deal.
 
Does anyone know how this actually works? In my imagination they just connect it to a Mac and install the newest OS with Apple Configurator 2, but is this really how it works? I imagine this is a lot of work if you have millions of iPhones to install it on…
 
Does anyone know how this actually works? In my imagination they just connect it to a Mac and install the newest OS with Apple Configurator 2, but is this really how it works? I imagine this is a lot of work if you have millions of iPhones to install it on…
In my guess, the flash the memory before it’s installed. I dunno.
 
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Yeah there's probably never a time when they've got these devices on iOS 14.

They probably begin hardware manufacture, then have a stack of unflashed new iPhones, then when an RC is ready they start flashing every single one of them and boxing.

OR there's also the chance that like Jumpie said they flash the memory chips before installation.

Although connecting those chips is an arduous task, they need to be micro soldered, they don't just plug into a test bench.

So yeah I'd bet that they only flash once the iPhone is assembled.
 
yeah I think they do a hardware test then flash them just before they get packaged. They just put the latest available version on the phones. As part of the initial setup process the phone will do a (sometimes forced) update. Perhaps as part of the activation they check if they need to force an update.
 
How does Apple put the RC on millions of new, unleased devices in less than two weeks prior to them shipping? Things that make you go Hmmmmm......

My guess is the last thing they do for quality control is a charging cycle and firmware update. A long long line of new iPhones on a big big wire harness jig. It would be Neet to see!

Again - just guessing. Jigs are cool.
 
I would think there is a default firmware that will log on, download and install then delete all info and shut off. Last step before packaging. Were they turn on, insert in box and sent on its way
 
If I can find the article, I’ll post it, but I remember reading that the phones are boxed up in some quasi-limbo state waiting for commands, and they flash the entire lot via wifi all at once, inside the boxes.

It’s custom software that doesn’t exist outside of the factory and it’s gone when their flashed.
 
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The build for the newest devices is prioritized and done before the already-released models.
 
If I can find the article, I’ll post it, but I remember reading that the phones are boxed up in some quasi-limbo state waiting for commands, and they flash the entire lot via wifi all at once, inside the boxes.

Really? I'd be surprised. What if something goes wrong? Hard to verify that the device flashed ok.
 
Really? I'd be surprised. What if something goes wrong? Hard to verify that the device flashed ok.

exactly my thought. If that was the case, we will have heard about iPhone arriving with no firmware installed. Never heard of something like that
 
exactly my thought. If that was the case, we will have heard about iPhone arriving with no firmware installed. Never heard of something like that

But we have had phones with test photos on them of factory workers. So in the past at least they had loaded the software on before manual testing.
 
If I can find the article, I’ll post it, but I remember reading that the phones are boxed up in some quasi-limbo state waiting for commands, and they flash the entire lot via wifi all at once, inside the boxes.

It’s custom software that doesn’t exist outside of the factory and it’s gone when their flashed.
It does seem potentially problematic, but I definitely remember the same story. I just can't find it at the moment.
 
If I can find the article, I’ll post it, but I remember reading that the phones are boxed up in some quasi-limbo state waiting for commands, and they flash the entire lot via wifi all at once, inside the boxes.

It’s custom software that doesn’t exist outside of the factory and it’s gone when their flashed.
That's what I think, but the guy I work with says no way......I think yes.
 
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Yeah there's probably never a time when they've got these devices on iOS 14.

They probably begin hardware manufacture, then have a stack of unflashed new iPhones, then when an RC is ready they start flashing every single one of them and boxing.

OR there's also the chance that like Jumpie said they flash the memory chips before installation.

Although connecting those chips is an arduous task, they need to be micro soldered, they don't just plug into a test bench.

So yeah I'd bet that they only flash once the iPhone is assembled.
What does it mean to flash?
 
Really? I'd be surprised. What if something goes wrong? Hard to verify that the device flashed ok.
There would probably be a check in ping once the process is done. If the phone didn’t ping, it’d be removed from the lot
 
I've wondered the logistics of this too since the phones are already being shipped and the RC was just released last week.
 
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