How Does The iOS 4 Utilize Battery Life Better Than Other OSs' Such As Android...

[Krevnik]

This is a crazy way to look at things.

And yet, it isn't really wrong either. Kernels that can handle switching rapidly between processes at small time slices, being able to partition up real RAM into virtual memory spaces for each process, swap files (doesn't apply on iOS), and so on are all various tricks OSes have to use to offer up multitasking in some way.

I wouldn't call RAM a save state, though. It's more of a short-term storage area for active processes. The kernel does save the state of the CPU when switching processes though, and flush it out to RAM, ready for when it is time to switch back.

 

[Tarzanman]

the battery life of Android phones in general is piss-poor. Yes, even your precious Droid.

As compared to what, an iPhone 4, or all the rest of the iPhones?

Doesn't matter. Both phones perform the same in terms of speed and are of the same class. You shouldn't keep needing to justify horrid battery life by a slightly bigger screen and a 4G radio that's connected to a 3G network for the vast majority of the time.

While similar, the iPhone doesn't have as many features as current Android phones. 6 months could really be considered last-generation in terms of Android's rate of progression.

Instead of endlessly apologizing for the horrid short battery life, why not compensate by putting in a larger battery?

Diminishing returns. A 'D' sized battery has 110% more volume than a 'C' sized battery but only 50% more power (measured in amps). Bigger only gets you a little bit better. Lowering the amp draw on the device is a much better way to extend battery life. This is probably the reason that the iphone4 screen is so dim. Under typical use, the screen draws the most energy from the battery.

Not to mention the vast majority of Android phones don't have a 4G radio anyway.
Hah, this is usually where I'd stop and talk about all the problems with the openness that users have to put up with, such as fragmentation, poor security, and year-late-or-never updates, but I think that summary should be enough.

I'm not sure I follow. My phone came out in July and I have already had one update (bug fixes) with an OS update scheduled for November/December. Even when they take forever, Android OS revisions still come at least as fast (or faster) than Apple's yearly iOS revisions.

Also, I am not sure why fragmentation is an issue. My Vibrant runs the same market apps that a mytouch does. If they don't (due to an OS revision difference), then that app will only appear in the market for the appropriate device.

When you say 'problem', do you mean that its is bad that my Samsung Vibrant with TouchWiz doesn't look exactly and act exactly like a Desire running sense, a Motorola running NinjaBlur?, or any phone running stock Android? Yeah, choice sucks! Who needs it? We should all let Uncle Steve decide what one-functionality for a phone suits ALL OF US.

I owned:
X10
Original Droid
HTC EVO 4G for a few days
G1

Just a little summary to set the mood: I'm not a Mac fanboy, not an Apple fanboy, etc. I've tried all phone platforms and the iPhone is just the best overall. There's a reason why it won JD awards 4 years in a row. The only thing I've still yet to try is WP7. My money is actually on WP7, too. Currently it's a wasteland but eventually as developer interest ramps up, I do believe it will be dominant. I've even tried WebOS. I've tried the Pre but only for a few hours if anything when I was staying over at a friend's house. I stayed up all night playing with the Pre, and sadly it was a little sluggish. May have to give the second generation a try whenever I get the chance.

Best overall at what, exactly? iPhone has exactly 2 advantages over Android. Battery life and screen resolution.

Its worse at making phone calls, worse at customization, worse at running your own apps, worse at carrier choice (until January), worse at notifications, worse at multi-tasking, worse at playing media and worse at syncing to the cloud (how do I hate thee, Itunes? Let me count the ways...)

So, where does this 'best overall' come from?

 

[Vegastouch]

Android allows more things to continue to run in the background, which sucks up battery life by using processor cycles. iOS is very restrictive on the things that can run in the background. Most times, what seems like "multitasking" is actually just the program saving its state in memory and shutting down.

P.S., did any either of the above posters actually read the question?

You can very easily turn those off.

 

[mKTank]

Its worse at making phone calls, worse at customization, worse at running your own apps, worse at carrier choice (until January), worse at notifications, worse at multi-tasking, worse at playing media and worse at syncing to the cloud (how do I hate thee, Itunes? Let me count the ways...)

So, where does this 'best overall' come from?

No, it's not worse at making phone calls. That's a feature that isn't exactly better in one phone over another these days.

Worse at customization. That's where jailbreaking comes in.

Worse at running apps. What? You have to put up with subpar ports, apps that may not be supported on your device, spyware, and now viruses for some reason. And you think that's impressive? Let's not get into how much of a wasteland the Android Market is.

Worse at carrier choice, you get this one.

Worse at notifications, you get this one.

Worse at multitasking? So not raping battery life is worse than needlessly fully rendering the app in the background?

Worse at playing media? Are you really serious?

Worse at syncing to the cloud. Subjective. I hate iTunes too but fortunately there are alternatives.


However, better at:
App security.
Build quality.
Running all apps across all devices seamlessly without supported this or unsupported that.
No spyware, no viruses, whereas apparently 1/5th of Android apps spy on you. Hah.
No waiting half a year for an update that may or may not be canceled in the end.
Devices being supported for much longer.
UI is way, way better and doesn't feel like some cheap knockoff.
Better touchscreens, higher resolution (for those who care.)
UI is completely smooth and doesn't turn into a stutterfest when task switching.
Less tinkering needed to make things work; things work completely out of the box without needing to install launcher this and task killer that.
Carriers choose when you get your updates and what crap to pre-install on your phone. So instead of putting the choice in the hands of the phone makers who know what the users most want, the choice is put in the hands of the oblivious carriers who just want to make as much money as possible. Ooh yeah, loving that openness.
Much bigger and better library of apps.
Direct access to the largest online music library, the iTunes store. Movie and TV show availability isn't too shabby either.
Much better accessory availability.
Much better technical support.


I can really go on but at this point I'm wondering why you're advertising Android in an Apple forum. Same question goes to the OP for making another one of these pointless threads. Are you so insecure that you need to validate your choices by trolling competitor forums?

 

[Vegastouch]

Ive never had a spyware or virus problem on my phone. Is that a real issue Seriously, that would be new to me.

And yes, if you JB(which i always did to mine) you can make the iPhone better and comparable to Android, but still not quite. Now if you Root an Android.....eat some dust!

 

[mKTank]

Ive never had a spyware or virus problem on my phone. Is that a real issue Seriously, that would be new to me.

And yes, if you JB(which i always did to mine) you can make the iPhone better and comparable to Android, but still not quite. Now if you Root an Android.....eat some dust!

The spyware won't start messing with your phone, it just quietly gives out your information.

Also, what does a rooted Android phone do over a jailbroken iPhone? It's the same thing, isn't it? This is a genuine question, because I never rooted before.

 

[Tarzanman]

No, it's not worse at making phone calls. That's a feature that isn't exactly better in one phone over another these days.

Right. I've never dropped a call on my Vibrant. I have used my roommate's iPhone4 four times and two of those calls dropped. Do I really need to bring up antenna-gate? The iPhone has had a weak radio in it from day 1 (2G, 3G, 3GS, and 4). This is a fact, whether you choose to admit it or not.

Worse at customization. That's where jailbreaking comes in.

Let me know when you can replace your keyboard, dialing app, messaging app, or launcher with anywhere between 4 to 5 alternatives. Jailbreaking is pretty lame compared to rooting and putting entirely different OS mods on an Android phone. iPhone will *never* win in the customization department vs Android. You know this and I know this. Just accept it and move on.

Worse at running apps. What? You have to put up with subpar ports, apps that may not be supported on your device, spyware, and now viruses for some reason. And you think that's impressive? Let's not get into how much of a wasteland the Android Market is.

Android Market is great. I don't have to wade through 2-dozen fart apps to find a useful productive program that works. Sometimes paid, but more often for FREE if I am willing to look at advertisements. If I don't want a market app then I can hit the web for sourceforge-type open projects. There are about 5 different good tethering apps for Android besides Google's stock MobileAP. Apple's app store has been lagging behind in the quality vs quantity department, which is why Apple has had to revise their application approval procedures. I notice that iPhone just got Google Voice today. Congratulations!

Worse at carrier choice, you get this one.
Worse at notifications, you get this one.

Worse at multitasking? So not raping battery life is worse than needlessly fully rendering the app in the background?

Anything that don't want 'needlessly' rendered can be deactivated with a long 'Home' key press (stock task manager) and clicking 'end'. You don't even have the option. Again, it is no secret that every other smartphone OS (blackberry, WP7, and even WebOS) does multi-tasking better than iOS. A quick scan of the threads in these very forums will tell you that.

Worse at playing media? Are you really serious?

Yes, i'm quite serious. My Vibrant plays mkv, mpg, avi, mp4 and just about anything else I can throw at it, STOCK. If I can fit it onto a microSD card then I can fire it up in the media player. Your iPhone can't play anything that iTunes won't import (and to my knowledge it doesn't do mkv files).

Worse at syncing to the cloud. Subjective. I hate iTunes too but fortunately there are alternatives.

Good luck shoehorning any media onto your phone without using iTunes. Google's phone/contact sync is the best one out there at the moment. Did I mention that I get my OS updates wirelessly over the air?

However, better at:
App security.

Yes, handy light proved that, nicely

Build quality.

Now you're the one making jokes. Gorilla glass > iphone4 cracked front & back glass. You should choose which Android phone you mean. I can think of 4 whose build quality is as good (or better) than iPhone4

Running all apps across all devices seamlessly without supported this or unsupported that.

Tell it to the 3GS users on iOS 4.x. I'm sure they aren't having any issues at all, since everything is so 'seamless'

No spyware, no viruses, whereas apparently 1/5th of Android apps spy on you. Hah.

Perception, my friend. You're fooling yourself if you think that iOS doesn't do the same thing. Look up 'midnight iPhone data transfer'. I think you'll find that AT&T is collecting their fair share of user information from their customers as well.
Unlike iPhone, I get a list of databases the apps I install want access to. Apparently Uncle Steve doesn't think you guys need to know where any of your apps are digging around.

No waiting half a year for an update that may or may not be canceled in the end.

Are you referring to iPhone tethering which came 1.5 years late? Or maybe the antennae-fix that never was? Oh, wait.. you must mean the proximity sensor problems that are still only half-fixed. Hey, how is iOS 4.2 working out for you....oh... yeah, that got delayed. My mistake

Devices being supported for much longer.

Do you really call the mess that is iOS 4.x on the 3GS 'support'? I'm sure that 3GS users probably don't. The beautiful thing about Android is that where the manufacturers leave off, the users pick back up. There is an Eclair (Android 2.1) port for the G1, the first Google phone ever. Froyo (2.2) can be found on almost any device ~1 year old in the form of homebrew ROMs.

UI is way, way better and doesn't feel like some cheap knockoff.

Better touchscreens, higher resolution (for those who care.)

Not better touchscreens, and only higher resolution till 2011. (Either honeycomb or early gingerbread devices will bring 1280x760 res to android devices).

UI is completely smooth and doesn't turn into a stutterfest when task switching.

You need to take a look at some better devices (Incredible, any of the Galaxy S devices). My Vibrant doesn't lag at all. In fact, its got a more powerful graphics chipset than the iPhone4.

Less tinkering needed to make things work; things work completely out of the box without needing to install launcher this and task killer that.

I think you mean "No tinkering at all" and if things don't work, you wait on Apple to take their sweet time. The homebrew scene had a GPS fix for the Vibrant about 2 months before the official fix came in an update.
Its nice to have choices

Carriers choose when you get your updates and what crap to pre-install on your phone. So instead of putting the choice in the hands of the phone makers who know what the users most want, the choice is put in the hands of the oblivious carriers who just want to make as much money as possible. Ooh yeah, loving that openness.

You should *really* take a look at my Vibrant. Rooted and got rid of bloatware in less than 2 minutes. I've already addressed updates, and I find it hilarious to hear you talk about choice when Apple doesn't give you ANY unless you jailbreak. I can change dialers/sms/keyboards, or install non-market apps on a STOCK Android device.... except for the one on AT&T, lol! You say such bad things about the carriers, but you're on the worst one! No doubt you'll be singing a different (i)tune once iPhone releases to all of the other carriers.

Much bigger and better library of apps.

Much bigger and better library of fart apps.
Fixed that for ya. You should check the Market out one day, I think you'll be disappointed to see that it eclipses the app store for useful apps.
I'll have to concede that iPhone does have more fart apps. I guess I can't win them all .

Direct access to the largest online music library, the iTunes store. Movie and TV show availability isn't too shabby either.

Lol. You can HAVE the iTunes store. Really, be my guest. You will hear no complaint from me .

Much better accessory availability.

Card readers and power plugs? Nope, you can't mean that because android phones use microSD, USB, and other standards that have been around for years. What can I not find for my Vibrant that you can find for your iPhone? If you mean external iSpeakers in the $3 bin at Marshall's, then I'll give you that one. The Marshall's by me has plenty, and I'd be glad to ship some to you.

Much better technical support.

"You're holding it wrong...but here's a free bumper anyway"?
I will admit that. No one who manufactures and Android phone has the balls to say that to their customers with a straight face

I can really go on but at this point I'm wondering why you're advertising Android in an Apple forum. Same question goes to the OP for making another one of these pointless threads. Are you so insecure that you need to validate your choices by trolling competitor forums?

Do go on. I'm not insecure at all. I came here for the entertainment during antennae-gate and I have stayed because i'm a technology enthusiast.
I can't really say the same thing for a lot of people on this board... if Apple didn't make it, then its auto-magically useless crap that serves no purpose.... that is until Uncle Steve includes it down the line.

Physician, heal thyself

 

[mKTank]

Wow. Scanning through that post and I really want to reply raging to everything but I've just realized something.

You're one of those people who just blindly hate anything Apple giving age-old reasons that have been fixed a long time ago. Things like assuming fart apps are still popular and the antenna issue is a huge problem when it's just a relatively small issue overblown to fit media story standards.

Basically I'm backing out of the argument. You win, not because your arguments are true (where in fact they're quite false and outdated) but because I believe that when you argue with somebody so daft, the more you argue, the more he'll bring you down to his level, and a spectator won't be able to distinguish between the both of you.

If you really think that fart apps are still a problem, that the Market is better than the App Store, that fragmentation isn't an issue, that you guys get updates on a more timely basis than us, that the 3GS has any issues with 4.x, that we couldn't do tethering from day one via jailbreaking, and that jailbreaking is a joke, then perhaps you defeated your own stance by being so endlessly fanboyish to the point that it's clear that either you're trolling or you are just somebody so daft that it's not worth arguing against you.

Go ahead now and make a final post to save some face and say some rubbish about how I 'know I'm wrong' because I don't want to waste half a day talking to a brick wall. I shouldn't have gotten involved in this. I should have recognized what kind of a clueless person you are from step one, but I didn't, and that's my fault. Hell, you even just said that you joined in for entertainment. That's the definition of a troll. And if you cannot appreciate good products when you see them, opting to call people sheep by buying them, then you're no technological enthusiast at all. You're just another one of those insecure Android users who need to validate their purchase by trolling forums of the competitor products. Overall, I'm thinking maybe you should have left after the Antennagate thing died down.

 

[Kariya]

^^
lol...took you long enough.

 

[JulianL]

Good questions. State-saving is a separate issue.

<Great explanation deleted>

You might have left this thread because a bit of a flame war seems to have broken out but I just wanted to say thanks for that great explanation. All is clear now.

I did confuse things a bit. I plucked out the term "state saving" to describe iOS 4 automatically saving the running state (because it's still in memory) when the user switches to another foreground task (i.e. your point 2) because I was trying to avoid the whole "is it true multitasking or not?" debate which is why I tried to use a term that explicitly acknowledged that a backgrounded app isn't really running (apart from possible task completion and other specific stuff). I see now that it was a bad choice since it is confused with state saving to flash on true process exit but don't worry, your explanation was 100% clear despite my adding some confusion into the terminology.

- Julian

 

[Tarzanman]

Wow. Scanning through that post and I really want to reply raging to everything but I've just realized something.

You're one of those people who just blindly hate anything Apple giving age-old reasons that have been fixed a long time ago. Things like assuming fart apps are still popular and the antenna issue is a huge problem when it's just a relatively small issue overblown to fit media story standards.

Actually, that's not quite correct. I get the bulk of my information about the iPhone from my roommate and from this forum.

Basically I'm backing out of the argument. You win, not because your arguments are true (where in fact they're quite false and outdated) but because I believe that when you argue with somebody so daft, the more you argue, the more he'll bring you down to his level, and a spectator won't be able to distinguish between the both of you.

If you really think that fart apps are still a problem, that the Market is better than the App Store, that fragmentation isn't an issue, that you guys get updates on a more timely basis than us, that the 3GS has any issues with 4.x, that we couldn't do tethering from day one via jailbreaking, and that jailbreaking is a joke, then perhaps you defeated your own stance by being so endlessly fanboyish to the point that it's clear that either you're trolling or you are just somebody so daft that it's not worth arguing against you

Feel free to inform me which of the things I said (which you mention above) are false.
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)#Update_history - The revision history of Android. 5 major releases since February 2009. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history - The revision history of iOS. 4 major releases since June 2007. Android does get updated more often (sorry!)
• iOS 4.x problems on the 3GS are common knowledge
• iPhone official tethering was promised in June 2009 and not delivered until mid 2010
• http://www.technewsworld.com/story/70794.html Apple has had to ease app store restrictions to compete with the Android Market

Please feel free to point me to any sources that I say different that I might not have read yet.

Go ahead now and make a final post to save some face and say some rubbish about how I 'know I'm wrong' because I don't want to waste half a day talking to a brick wall. I shouldn't have gotten involved in this. I should have recognized what kind of a clueless person you are from step one, but I didn't, and that's my fault. Hell, you even just said that you joined in for entertainment. That's the definition of a troll. And if you cannot appreciate good products when you see them, opting to call people sheep by buying them, then you're no technological enthusiast at all. You're just another one of those insecure Android users who need to validate their purchase by trolling forums of the competitor products. Overall, I'm thinking maybe you should have left after the Antennagate thing died down.

I'm sorry that your butt hurts?

 

[Kariya]

...I'm sorry that your butt hurts?

...Sorry if your butt hurts?

...and all you get is butt-hurt because...

Do you have some kind of anal fetish or just an anal fixation in general? because i've never met anyone who uses 'butt hurt' as a trademark retort that much before...if ever.

 

[VSMacOne]

Wow. Scanning through that post and I really want to reply raging to everything but I've just realized something.

You're one of those people who just blindly hate anything Apple giving age-old reasons that have been fixed a long time ago. Things like assuming fart apps are still popular and the antenna issue is a huge problem when it's just a relatively small issue overblown to fit media story standards.

Go ahead now and make a final post to save some face and say some rubbish about how I 'know I'm wrong' because I don't want to waste half a day talking to a brick wall. I shouldn't have gotten involved in this. I should have recognized what kind of a clueless person you are from step one, but I didn't, and that's my fault. Hell, you even just said that you joined in for entertainment. That's the definition of a troll. And if you cannot appreciate good products when you see them, opting to call people sheep by buying them, then you're no technological enthusiast at all. You're just another one of those insecure Android users who need to validate their purchase by trolling forums of the competitor products. Overall, I'm thinking maybe you should have left after the Antennagate thing died down.

Have to say you can definitely carry an argument. Loved your points, but it's really a lost fight when trying to convince somebody who has already made up their mind REGARDLESS.

^^
lol...took you long enough.

Do you have some kind of anal fetish or just an anal fixation in general? because i've never met anyone who uses 'butt hurt' as a trademark retort that much before...if ever.

Karyia, right on!

Here's my 2 cents... Apple is building a great ecosystem for iPad, iPhone and Mac, and so far they have given me the best customer experience. Their stores, their customer service... It all WORKS for me.. I'm not a fanboi, just a satisfied customer who likes GOOD products. Are all their products perfect? No! Show me a company who's products are. But do they have the best support for their products? Heck yes! Hands down. All I know is I would be PISSED off if 4.2 was released today and I had to wait anywhere from weeks to months on my carrier to trickle it down to me. No sir! For that fact alone, iOS wins over Android!

 

[Bawstun]

I can sum this up in one post. Watch me.

iOS 4 (5, 6, 7, 8. etc.) = one device. the iPhone.

Android = Samsung, LG, Motorola, Google, HTC, etc. etc. etc. + multiple versions and instances of all.

That's all you need.

When you have a CONTROLLED operating system on one device that you're allowed to perfect and tweak, you end up with a better user experience. And sure, if you're Android and spread yourself across every market on multiple carriers and brands, you can overtake the marketshare as #1. But when all interviews and studies are done, the #1 in user experience and happiness so far has and probably always will be Apple.

It's unmatched, and this is from someone who owned the first RAZR, the first Droid, the 4G Evo, the Droid X, and every generation of the iPhone. It's just tops, and will be for a long long time as long as Android continues it's 'saturation' over 'quality'. It's the same thing that happened to the Moto Razr.

 

[Vegastouch]

I can sum this up in one post. Watch me.

iOS 4 (5, 6, 7, 8. etc.) = one device. the iPhone.

Android = Samsung, LG, Motorola, Google, HTC, etc. etc. etc. + multiple versions and instances of all.

That's all you need.

When you have a CONTROLLED operating system on one device that you're allowed to perfect and tweak, you end up with a better user experience. And sure, if you're Android and spread yourself across every market on multiple carriers and brands, you can overtake the marketshare as #1. But when all interviews and studies are done, the #1 in user experience and happiness so far has and probably always will be Apple.

It's unmatched, and this is from someone who owned the first RAZR, the first Droid, the 4G Evo, the Droid X, and every generation of the iPhone. It's just tops, and will be for a long long time as long as Android continues it's 'saturation' over 'quality'. It's the same thing that happened to the Moto Razr.

LOL......Your kidding right? You know how many people have switched to Android? There are numerous posters in here who are complaining about the reception and many other things. So please dont tell us how having only one device makes the experience better.

Who cares if there are different devices? Its just choices. The OS is still the same. Some just have a camera flash, or a LED flash, or a different screen or whatever. The Android OS has support for multiple screen sizes, just like Windows does for those having different size screens.

Please dont be an lame and say iPhone owners would not want a few different phones to choose from. Because you know that is BS as much as i do. Just look at the people wanting a white phone....and it is just one different color.

So let me know when Apple has "perfected" any OS in the iPhone they put out because it hasnt happened yet. And they dont want you to tweak anything. You must jailbreak to do any tweaking.

Im not trying to bash Apple, i like their stuff but posts like yours are just ridiculous. Does it really matter who is #1 in sales? Why does that matter so much to a lot of posters in here? I dont get that.
And ill say this....if Apple was "perfected" and had the best user experience,.....wouldnt they have the #1 marketshare? And maybe they will when they move to other carriers but in the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

 

[zunairryk]

do you have some kind of anal fetish or just an anal fixation in general? Because i've never met anyone who uses 'butt hurt' as a trademark retort that much before...if ever.

+1

 

[ajarnfalang]

LOL......Your kidding right? You know how many people have switched to Android? There are numerous posters in here who are complaining about the reception and many other things. So please dont tell us how having only one device makes the experience better.

Who cares if there are different devices? Its just choices. The OS is still the same. Some just have a camera flash, or a LED flash, or a different screen or whatever. The Android OS has support for multiple screen sizes, just like Windows does for those having different size screens.

Please dont be an lame and say iPhone owners would not want a few different phones to choose from. Because you know that is BS as much as i do. Just look at the people wanting a white phone....and it is just one different color.

So let me know when Apple has "perfected" any OS in the iPhone they put out because it hasnt happened yet. And they dont want you to tweak anything. You must jailbreak to do any tweaking.

Im not trying to bash Apple, i like their stuff but posts like yours are just ridiculous. Does it really matter who is #1 in sales? Why does that matter so much to a lot of posters in here? I dont get that.
And ill say this....if Apple was "perfected" and had the best user experience,.....wouldnt they have the #1 marketshare? And maybe they will when they move to other carriers but in the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

It is very simple really.

There is 0 point to arguing.

There are choices. The iPhone is just ONE of them. Personally I don't have any problems with the iPhone at all. No reception issues or any other issues. I love iOS and the App Store. I can do everything I want to with it and more.

If you don't like it, well, don't buy it. There are other phones out there.

So, what is the point of flaming? Just get what you like.

Also, getting a girlfriend helps with all this flaming.

Now if you want to talk about market share, one could say that Apple has the #1 spot in the US Marketshare for smart phones.

If you look at these stats, you can say that the Apple iPhone is the #1 Smartphone. You can't really say that OHA (Android) is #1 because you are basically putting a bunch of different smartphones together under 1 "Android" umbrella. How can ONE phone compete with the never ending list of Android Smart Phones out there? There are Apple customers. Then that vs Motorola customers, HCT customers, Samsung customers, ACER customers, etc etc. Well, I wonder who has the #1 spot... and Nokia is #1 in world market share. They sell plastic phones for $20 bucks all around the world. Ndugu in the African village gets his water once a month by calling the guy with the camels on his $20 dollar scratched up Nokia.

A fair fight would be to have the iPhone against the Droid X, or the Desire.

You have to admit that a company that has 1 phone in 1 color and has 26% of market share is amazing. If Android was only available in the Nexus One imagine where it would be in that list.

And the shipments say 5 million, the iPhone has sold over 14 million.

 

[Tarzanman]

OUCH

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/steve-wozniak-android-will-be-the-dominant-smartphone-platform/

"Woz then moved on to the topic of Android saying that Android smartphones, not the iPhone, would become dominant, noting that the Google OS is likely to win the race similarly to the way that Windows ultimately dominated the PC world. Woz stressed that the iPhone, "Has very few weak points. There aren't any real complaints and problems. In terms of quality, the iPhone is leading." However, he then conceded that, "Android phones have more features," and offer more choice for more people. Eventually, he thinks that Android quality, consistency, and user satisfaction will match iOS."

 

[mKTank]

OUCH

Some comments attributed to Steve Wozniak caused quite a kerfuffle this morning -- according to Dutch paper De Telegraaf, Woz said that "Android phones have more features," which would help Google's OS become the dominant smartphone platform. Obviously, a statement like that from Apple's co-founder rocketed around the web, and it's set off yet another round of furious Android-vs-iOS debate. There's just one problem, though: Woz never said anything like that. Turns out Woz is an Engadget commenter just like you, and when we saw that he'd left a clarification on the post, we called him up for a quick chat to sort everything out.

Woz says he gave the De Telegraaf reporter a lengthy demonstration of voice commands on iOS and Android, pointed out that Android offered the ability to say "Navigate to Joe's Diner," and suggested that Apple would catch up through its purchases of Siri and Poly9. According to Steve, that's about it -- he says he'd "never" say that Android was better than iOS, and that "Almost every app I have is better on the iPhone." Woz did say he lightly prognosticated that Android would become more popular "based on what I've read," but that he expects Android "to be a lot like Windows... I'm not trying to put Android down, but I'm not suggesting it's better than iOS by any stretch of the imagination.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/exclusive-woz-misquoted-almost-every-app-that-i-have-is-bette/

 

[Tarzanman]

Woz's point (which he deemphasized) still stands. He is on the record (even after the clarification) saying that Android has more features.

Don't get mad at me. That's an Apple guy. He's just reading the writing on the wall.