How fast and fluid does your new iPhone 6/6 plus feel?

[Djentleman]

Because I'm using imageboards when this happens, reading list won't work right for what I'm using it for. Even then why should you have to read a dumbed down version of an article just because your stuff reloads? That's pretty bad.


I don't know what I'll do to be honest , I can't think of any other phone that really appeals to me like the iphone does but I'm really really dissappointed that they didnt just throw in another gig to make this a non issue.

I think with all the feedback, another gig is inevitable. I kinda want them to do it just to actually placate everyone. But, to me, the Plus is an actual game-changer. Not only have I started feeling accustomed to the Plus' size already, but the screen is just impeccably gorgeous. Really and truly. And the way the developers are going to feed into what the size and screen offer, is already very exciting.

As far as I know, every phone has its issues, and iPhone isn't perfect by any means. But I over look all the small technicalities because the bigger picture is just too damn awesome to miss.

It's up to you at the end of the day, but I'm certain you won't regret it.

 

[vgamedude]

I think with all the feedback, another gig is inevitable. I kinda want them to do it just to actually placate everyone. But, to me, the Plus is an actual game-changer. Not only have I started feeling accustomed to the Plus' size already, but the screen is just impeccably gorgeous. Really and truly. And the way the developers are going to feed into what the size and screen offer, is already very exciting.

As far as I know, every phone has its issues, and iPhone isn't perfect by any means. But I over look all the small technicalities because the bigger picture is just too damn awesome to miss.

It's up to you at the end of the day, but I'm certain you won't regret it.

I'll probably still end up with one but I don't know. My personal issues could be nearly completely alleviated if they were to allow me to create a swap partition of about 2 gbs (or 4) to allow safari to cache pages in that flash storage partition. That would make me pretty happy and would nearly completely alleviate my concerns on safari tab reloads at least.

That's not a permanent solution by any means, they still should add more RAM, but that would solve tab reloads, maybe make switching to tabs that have been cached with flash storage slightly slower but id take it. They should just add the option via software update but I can't see apple doing that.

 

[iregret]

What about the app pocket? Have you tried something like that?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-save-articles-videos/id309601447?mt=8

I still can't quite get what you're saying happens. I mean I understand what you're saying, but I haven't experienced it. I've never had a 64-bit chip though so I'm not sure.

If it truly is a dealbreaker just sell the iPhone. I know, Capt. obvious.

 

[vgamedude]

What about the app pocket? Have you tried something like that?

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/pocket-save-articles-videos/id309601447?mt=8

I still can't quite get what you're saying happens. I mean I understand what you're saying, but I haven't experienced it. I've never had a 64-bit chip though so I'm not sure.

If it truly is a dealbreaker just sell the iPhone. I know, Capt. obvious.

Wouldn't help me really considering the websites I mainly have a problem with reloading on are ones that are imageboards, so new posts are coming in constantly.

 

[iregret]

Wouldn't help me really considering the websites I mainly have a problem with reloading on are ones that are imageboards, so new posts are coming in constantly.

What do you mean by image boards? Can you give me an example please?

 

[sunking101]

See, this is what I don't get. I tried experimenting now and I got nothing. Had five tabs open, all with lots of pictures and stuff, then went to home screen, replied to a text and then went back to safari and not a single reload. Ill be honest though, even if it was to reload one or two, It wouldn't be that much of a bother.

A mis-firing car would be just fine?

 

[vgamedude]

What do you mean by image boards? Can you give me an example please?

I go on 4chan all the time

 

[Lictor]

I'll probably still end up with one but I don't know. My personal issues could be nearly completely alleviated if they were to allow me to create a swap partition of about 2 gbs (or 4) to allow safari to cache pages in that flash storage partition.

Why would they need to add swap ? It's a phone, not Linux or Windows !

On iOS, when the system is low on memory the OS sends a message to all the applications asking them to free some memory. If the memory is still too low, the OS will send a message to the applications you have used the least recently telling them that they will be terminated soon.

When Safari receives these messages, it frees up memory by discarding the content of the web pages - hence the reloading. The program could be modified to persist the content of each page by serialization, either in the file system or in a database. Then, when the application comes back to front, it could just deserialize each page from the filesystem as needed. There is no need for a swap partition or to modify the OS, it's only application related.
My guess is that Apple chose not to do that, because a web page is something that can be rebuilt easily - the problems come when the web page is very complex, when the connection is slow or when it had a state.

Since it's only program related, have you tried using a third party web browser like Google Chrome ?
I just checked, and some people claim Dolphin Browser does not reload tabs constantly. Since it's free, you might want to give it a try.

 

[r-m]

iPhone 6 for me, and haven't noticed much difference in performance coming from the 5S.
I haven't taken many picture yet, but the few I have taken, do look better. Colours seem to be slightly more accurate when compared to 5S, which is saying something because the 5S was never very inaccurate for me.
The screen is where it's at - it's just great having a bigger screen!
Battery performance... meh. Not so great so far. I have only had it a day though.. and first day is always the worst.

the problems come when the web page is very complex, when the connection is slow or when it had a state.

That's my issue - Safari is usually 1 or 2 on the list of Battery usage (used iOS 8 betas and GM on my 5S), so seems to be my most used app.
I do use it a lot with low signal, so when only having 2 or 3 tabs open and switching to another app, then back, tabs reloading is frustrating when it takes ages to load one webpage.
I put up with it though. Isn't a deal-breaker for me, just a mild annoyance.

iPad air is the worst. I tried the "Reset All Settings" and that improved it slightly, but the issue was still there.

May be worth people trying that on their iPhone 6. I know it doesn't sound like it makes sense, but I think some bad Safari settings get loaded from your iCloud - my iPad air was fresh, and had the issue. Doing that Reset helped a little.

 

[xxray]

I just got back from an att store and using the plus exactly as I expected I got tab reloading.

Had about 5 tabs open, (CNN,verge,macrumors,youtube,yahoo), letting them all load, scrolling a bit through each, then went to home screen, then went to camera, came back and 2 to 3 of the tabs reloaded.

You guys pretending like this somehow doesn't happen are delusional, sorry.

I don't get why people complain about this. My Note 3 with 3GB of RAM still has to reload webpages after switching tabs or apps at times too.

 

[geoff5093]

I don't get why people complain about this. My Note 3 with 3GB of RAM still has to reload webpages after switching tabs or apps at times too.

Android is not the same as iOS. Android requires much higher specs to perform the same. Now if iOS had 3GB of RAM...

 

[kazmac]

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It feels like night and day compared to the 5. Lightning fast and I love, love, love the spell check/suggestion while typing an email last night.

Haven't played around too many apps yet, but I am sure I will feel the same way. Glad I updated.

 

[sunking101]

I don't get why people complain about this. My Note 3 with 3GB of RAM still has to reload webpages after switching tabs or apps at times too.

My Android tablet with 1.5GB of RAM never reloads tabs unless I reboot and then fire up the browser to view open tabs.
Android has true multitasking and you have to use the task manager a lot. If you leave a ton of apps open they will use up RAM.
iOS reloads tabs and yet it has no real multitasking.

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Android is not the same as iOS. Android requires much higher specs to perform the same. Now if iOS had 3GB of RAM...

That's an old argument. The o/s uses more RAM, but then the phones come with more RAM and the premium devices have plenty more on top.

 

[cynics]

I don't get why people complain about this. My Note 3 with 3GB of RAM still has to reload webpages after switching tabs or apps at times too.

No it doesn't. While switching apps yes, while switching tabs no. Android doesn't utilize RAM the same way iOS does with browsers. Even a 1 gb Android device won't do it.

 

[Lictor]

Android has true multitasking and you have to use the task manager a lot.

iOS has had true multitasking from the start too, even iPhone 1 had true preemptive multitasking, it was just not available to third party applications and the user had no task manager, but you were still able to listen to music while browsing for instance, which required true multitasking...
You're making a confusion between multitasking at the OS core and the way the task manager allows you to interact with it... People really have to stop spreading these misconceptions when they do not know how multitasking works on a phone...

The behaviour of Safari has nothing to do with multitasking at the OS level. It is an application level decision to unload pages when the application leaves the foreground and to reload them when it comes back. The application could avoid that even without multitasking (just persisting the pages when it quits and reloading them from disk when it is started again). And it could discard and reload pages with multitasking (which it does on iOS), because the developers of Safari made the decision to save as much RAM as possible and prefer to have reloading than the potential for stale pages. Again, nothing to do with multitasking, this is just an application design decision...

 

[Fynd]

No it doesn't. While switching apps yes, while switching tabs no. Android doesn't utilize RAM the same way iOS does with browsers. Even a 1 gb Android device won't do it.

My Moto G with 1GB does in fact reload tabs.

 

[sunking101]

My Moto G with 1GB does in fact reload tabs.

First gen Moto G with 1GB of RAM?
The i6 should be compared to cutting edge Android devices.

 

[cynics]

How fast and fluid does your new iPhone 6/6 plus feel?

My Moto G with 1GB does in fact reload tabs.

Make a video, I would wager there is something else going on there.

Here is the oldest Android device I can find handy. Its a Motorola Xoom, came out before the iPad 2, it has 1 gb of RAM.

I pulled up the a bunch of heavy tech webpages, apple.com etc a total of 8 heavy webpages. Not a single reload.

http://youtu.be/mR_9azDA95o

Excuse the quality, I was holding my iPhone in one hand recording and browsing with the other.

My iPad 3 chokes on 3 normal tabs. iPhone 4S can choke on 2 tabs. A reset will temporarily fix the devices. That Xoom hasn't been reset in... 167+ hours..

 

[Cryates]

6 Plus here. Thing runs fast and I have noticed any lag or RAM issues as of now.

 

[Cougarcat]

In general, it's much faster than my 5. Silky smooth video scrubbing now.

Safari seems to be a bit buggy though. There is sometimes lag when invoking tabbed view. It froze for a second while typing this. Changed apps, came back and my text was gone. There's a weird bug with the cursor and selecting text I saw once (the cursor followed the scrolling and it was basically impossible to select what I wanted) and Safari managed to actually restart the phone once.

 

[cynics]

In general, it's much faster than my 5. Silky smooth video scrubbing now.

Safari seems to be a bit buggy though. There is sometimes lag when invoking tabbed view. It froze for a second while typing this. Changed apps, came back and my text was gone. There's a weird bug with the cursor and selecting text I saw once (the cursor followed the scrolling and it was basically impossible to select what I wanted) and Safari managed to actually restart the phone once.

I'm actually glad to read this. That leads me to believe there is a good chance Apple will fix this because its also effecting my 4S. I always liked Safari but its not very fun to use in iOS 8.

It does suck you are experiencing it on a new device though.

 

[Tubamajuba]

iOS has had true multitasking from the start too, even iPhone 1 had true preemptive multitasking, it was just not available to third party applications and the user had no task manager, but you were still able to listen to music while browsing for instance, which required true multitasking...

You're making a confusion between multitasking at the OS core and the way the task manager allows you to interact with it... People really have to stop spreading these misconceptions when they do not know how multitasking works on a phone...



The behaviour of Safari has nothing to do with multitasking at the OS level. It is an application level decision to unload pages when the application leaves the foreground and to reload them when it comes back. The application could avoid that even without multitasking (just persisting the pages when it quits and reloading them from disk when it is started again). And it could discard and reload pages with multitasking (which it does on iOS), because the developers of Safari made the decision to save as much RAM as possible and prefer to have reloading than the potential for stale pages. Again, nothing to do with multitasking, this is just an application design decision...

Wonderful explanation, but some people don't want to get it. They just want to be upset because it somehow makes them feel better, and they'll joyfully poke sticks in the eyes of those who don't share their anger.

Tab reloading is certainly a problem that can be fixed with more RAM, and it would have been nice if Apple included more. But as you said, it's not the only path to the desired solution. A software solution, however, doesn't cut it for people that only care about specs. Those who simply want a better browsing experience would be happy though, and that's what matters.

 

[HelloMikee]

The screen is this phone's killer feature, it looks and feels fantastic.

Agreed. Not a crazy difference in speed over my 5s but the screen real estate is awesome. Especially in the 6 plus. It's hard putting this thing down right now! lol

 

[TrueBlou]

I've been using my 6+ a LOT since I got it yesterday and thus far I'm really pleased with the performance.
I've been doing my usual new toy tests with games that push the limits, although they don't actually seem to be pushing the limits of what the 6 and 6+ are capable of, not that thats surprising.
Everything I have thrown at it, games and apps alike, has performed admirably with no signs of slowdown.

And I'm liking the battery, so far 21 hours 13 minutes on standby with 6 hours 47 minutes of use. Brightness full, WiFi and 3/4G browsing, Bluetooth on and lots of messaging, calls and apps being toyed with (including a very unoptimised app I'm developing just now) and it's still going.

As for the whole ram issue, I will say upfront that I would love Apple to add some more in, but mostly for future proofing. At the moment I'm not seeing anything that I can't live with.

The apps you use, the websites you visit and everything else you do with your phone obviously dictates the end result you see. That'll be me being captain obvious then but bear with me.

As a test, and I'll say upfront I'm a Safari user. But just for a test, I have my 7 most visited websites open in safari. When I switch between them there is sometimes a bit of reloading to be done. It doesn't bother me at all really, at the moment I'm on an average 3G signal and I can live with the couple of seconds of loading.

But for comparisons sake, I loaded up the same websites in Chrome, done the same browsing and switching of tabs and there was no reloading whatsoever.

So to drag this lengthy bit of waffling I'm doing to some sort of conclusion I'll say what I should probably have just said at the start...

Ohhhh, fast, shiny...Niiiice

 

[petvas]

Coming from an iPhone 5S, my new iPhone 6 feels at least as fast, if not faster. There is no starter and everything is smooth. I didn't expect anything else from Apple though..