How good will the 2.2GHZ do with games??

XheartcoreboyX

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Well,im sorry if this was posted before..i searched but i found nothing specific about the 2.2 model...

so im getting the 2.2 ghz(128 vcard) mbp tomorrow...how good will it work with games?? i never played a game on a computer..but i used to in the ps2 and i sold it..so i been thinking of playing game on laptop for now..will i have lots of freezes and crap by playing game on mbp 2.2ghz with bootcamp??
,and will there be a BIG enough difference between 2.2ghz and 2.4 in playing games??

Thanks alot!
 

cluthz

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Well,im sorry if this was posted before..i searched but i found nothing specific about the 2.2 model...

so im getting the 2.2 ghz(128 vcard) mbp tomorrow...how good will it work with games?? i never played a game on a computer..but i used to in the ps2 and i sold it..so i been thinking of playing game on laptop for now..will i have lots of freezes and crap by playing game on mbp 2.2ghz with bootcamp??
,and will there be a BIG enough difference between 2.2ghz and 2.4 in playing games??

Thanks alot!
According to barefeats.com is the 256 MB version barely faster, so in todays games it won't matter much.
 

Mac.Jnr

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Yeah it will do just fine.

You might not get 2 zillion fps like a pc enthusiast but you'll enjoy yourself, so happy gaming.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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According to barefeats.com is the 256 MB version barely faster, so in todays games it won't matter much.
Thanks for the link,so for the next 1 or 2 years the 128 vcard will do just fine?! cause im getting the ps3 anyway-once the copy games will be available in my country *cough*-..so do you recommend me getting the 2.2 mbp now..or try to beg my brother for 500$ lol..to be able to buy the 2.4ghz model?! XD
 

diadem

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There were 2 posts about gaming yestarday, The Vram does not make a huge difrence to game performence except a high res, that the MBP's are not able to display except on external monitors.
200Mhz extra cpu speed will make no noticable difrence either.
 

kolax

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If you are using Boot Camp then you are using your laptop natively as a PC. So if the game crashed, it's not because you are using a Mac but because of something else (i.e. game wasn't coded too well or Windows XP decided to piss you off).

You shouldn't have any problems with games and the MBP has great performance in games for a laptop.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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There were 2 posts about gaming yestarday, The Vram does not make a huge difrence to game performence except a high res, that the MBP's are not able to display except on external monitors.
200Mhz extra cpu speed will make no noticable difrence either.
Thanks,i will probably go for the 2.2 as long as i dont do anything professional on my computer,i dont have much stuff(60gig MAX),and IF i play games it will be mostly for the next 1 or 2 years..so there wont be a BIG difference in games specs.. =D
 

XheartcoreboyX

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If you are using Boot Camp then you are using your laptop natively as a PC. So if the game crashed, it's not because you are using a Mac but because of something else (i.e. game wasn't coded too well or Windows XP decided to piss you off).

You shouldn't have any problems with games and the MBP has great performance in games for a laptop.
your right the mbp is as good for games,but you didnt answer my main question....Is there a big difference in games between 2.2 and 2.4 models?!
 

kolax

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Boot Camp. Parallels is basically using Direct X and then having to translate it to OpenGL so Mac OSX can assign it to the GPU for execution.

Boot Camp runs Windows natively, therefore there isn't any translation required. Games will run natively at fullspeed, unlike Parallels.

I think the 3D performance in Parallels is utter shocking - nothing to boast about. Yes, it is early technology, but the way they told the public about it made it seem that it would run games just as well as it would on a PC.


MYTH!!! parallels cannot play games!!!!!!
anything good
TRUTH!!! parallels can do full screen!!!
Eh...?
 

Trepex

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your right the mbp is as good for games,but you didnt answer my main question....Is there a big difference in games between 2.2 and 2.4 models?!
Negligible for current games and likely many to come. Although the 2.4 has extra video memory, the card won't be capable of running games that would require an extra 128mb over the lower-end model anyway. Gaming is NOT a good justification for the 2.4 over the 2.2. Only non-gaming applications that will really task the extra video memory. In terms of the 200Mhz in processor speed, DEFINITELY not work the purchase for most people.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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Negligible for current games and likely many to come. Although the 2.4 has extra video memory, the card won't be capable of running games that would require an extra 128mb over the lower-end model anyway. Gaming is NOT a good justification for the 2.4 over the 2.2. Only non-gaming applications that will really task the extra video memory. In terms of the 200Mhz in processor speed, DEFINITELY not work the purchase for most people.
so are you saying that the extra vcard ONLY effects on professional apps?!and wont make different in games?! thats a strange opinion.>_>
 

DoFoT9

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so are you saying that the extra vcard ONLY effects on professional apps?!and wont make different in games?! thats a strange opinion.>_>
the increase to price ratio is minimal. youd get like 10-20% increase in the games and whatnot. the places where u owuld notice an increase is with things like high res gaming... say on a 30inch HD screen or summin...

or if you have dual monitors the vram would be split... i think..
 

XheartcoreboyX

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the increase to price ratio is minimal. youd get like 10-20% increase in the games and whatnot. the places where u owuld notice an increase is with things like high res gaming... say on a 30inch HD screen or summin...

or if you have dual monitors the vram would be split... i think..
i wouldnt ever use an external screen...about the games thing..i will play games i bet for short period of time..maybe..the 2.4 worth it for the games part for sure..so do you think i better try to save more money for the 2.4 model?! =\
 

chex

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no, the 2.4/256 model will have only a small improvement at the margin, not at all worth it imo
 

Trepex

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so are you saying that the extra vcard ONLY effects on professional apps?!and wont make different in games?! thats a strange opinion.>_>
No it's not. Neither video card will be able to handle new games that really tax them. It's not as much about the RAM as the other qualities of the video card. I believe it WILL support DX10, but very unlikely to support many DX10 games.

The extra ram is more useful for pro apps yes, as well as for driving very high resolutions. That said, my 2.2 drives my 1080p set just fine.
 

DoFoT9

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i wouldnt ever use an external screen...about the games thing..i will play games i bet for short period of time..maybe..the 2.4 worth it for the games part for sure..so do you think i better try to save more money for the 2.4 model?! =\
i really wouldnt go the 2.4. to me it doesnt seem like u need it. if your really concerned about your gaming you could clock the gpu back up to the native speed that the pcs use... i do that now and the increase is quite good.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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i really wouldnt go the 2.4. to me it doesnt seem like u need it. if your really concerned about your gaming you could clock the gpu back up to the native speed that the pcs use... i do that now and the increase is quite good.
What do you mean?! :confused: :(
 

DoFoT9

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What do you mean?! :confused: :(
apple slows down the clock considerably. to save heat and a lot of battery time. on pcs the clock of the 8600 is like 475mhz and its like 375mhz for the apples. i do note that in the SR MBP's the clocks change a bit depending on the needs of whateva is happening on the computer.
 

Freyqq

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i have the 2.2 model as well

I can get ~20 fps on max settings NO AA tiberium wars. Playable. I can get 70 fps on Unreal tourney 2004. Both in bootcamp with vista.
 

XheartcoreboyX

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i have the 2.2 model as well

I can get ~20 fps on max settings NO AA tiberium wars. Playable. I can get 70 fps on Unreal tourney 2004. Both in bootcamp with vista.
so.is that good? i never played a game on a computer so excuse me >_<..
do you have any troubles with playing any of the new games with the 128 vcard??
 

JHacker

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so.is that good? i never played a game on a computer so excuse me >_<..
do you have any troubles with playing any of the new games with the 128 vcard??
Look dude, just go buy your 2.2ghz MBP. You won't notice any difference between the 2.2 and the 2.4 and you've been asking so many questions lately. The 2.2ghz is fine for even the top pro apps as well.

Just go buy your computer and be happy.