Those of you questioning should I get an Should I get an 8 plus or a 8? Should I return my 8 plus for an 8? Should I return my 8 for an 8 Plus? Before you know it, as time rapidly speeds by, the 10 will be out and will be in millions of peoples hands. The 8 just happens to be the latest tech. Now I know the price is very expensive and the Face ID is not proven. But let's face it, if you have enough time to post on an internet forum specifically for iPhones and Apple products. You really can spend the money to get a new iPhone, and with payment programs via Apple/carriers, you're looking at a few more dollars monthly. So this isn't a real viable excuse to me. I hate it I don't like the price, but I don't believe anyone who touts handfuls of Apple products then acts like they can't or won't fork over a little more, yeah right. So let's quit posting threads about "I'm done with Apple!", or "totally not gonna get the X". Let's just face it, yeah you will. This isn't some gang where your word is bond, this is an internet forum with 0 accountability. One day you can post here how you hate the new tech and the stupid notch (I agree its silly) and the day it comes out your rabid consumerism will impulsively get you to buy it. Hell I'm not optimistic, I miss Jobs and I know this company isn't the same as when he was around. Lets not forget he told Tim Cook, "Don't be Steve Jobs". I say this because I've never met anyone that has told me they love the design and feel of the phones. (6 through 8). The 8 is beautiful, but the design is the same, except of the glass backs. So let's get real guys. Even that crazy lady with a 10 page thread shouting on top of her iPhone SE mountain about how she upgrades every year but won't this year! Yeah she will. Wanna know why she hasn't yet? Because she literally can't for another month, and when we can't access a product, to our consumer minds, it does not exist. edit: To clarify this is NOT for everyone. Those that are rocking a iPhone 5s or who just got a 6s or 7 last month. Not for you. This is for the people who: upgrade every year, who must have "new tech", those already complaining about returning their brand new 8 or 8+.