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Apple_Robert

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This isn't the first time a story that was not political was put in the political news section. All that does is encourage off topic posts about politics.

In my opinion, there is no reason this article should have been labeled for political news.
 
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This isn't the first time a story that was not political was put in the political news section. All that does is encourage off topic posts about politics.
I couldn’t agree with you more. I look at the list of “political news” items and I think they are assuming people will come in and MAKE them political. Based on past threads, they are probably right, but still... stinks that stories about Apple adjusting its supply chain (an operations issue) is in politics, as well as discussion of a system update that gives exposure notifications. Why is a health crisis automatically political? I mean, I don’t consider disease prevention to be political. They are pandering to the people that MAKE such things into political discussions instead of just kicking them off the threads.

In the end, unless you have permission to discuss political items on this site, you can’t discuss FaceTime or iOS updates or the Apple supply chain or upcoming movies on Apple TV+, or even Product(RED) phones because I guess AIDS is political?

Making every thread “political” proactively allows those who want to make everything political dominate the forums.

TL;DR - kick the people off non-political threads when they make them into political threads instead of moving the thread to politics-land.
 
After reading through some recent toxic PRSI threads, in my own mind, I think PRSI should be shut down. Bickering, discussing the poster instead of the post, passive/aggressive insults, the eventual devolvement into off-topic conversation that wouldn't be tolerated in other forums etc...just shut it down already and stop the bleeding. While there are some interesting and worthwhile threads that are great to participate in, sadly the majority aren't.

Keep the Political News section open though.

My $.02.
 
After reading through some recent toxic PRSI threads, in my own mind, I think PRSI should be shut down. Bickering, discussing the poster instead of the post, passive/aggressive insults, the eventual devolvement into off-topic conversation that wouldn't be tolerated in other forums etc...just shut it down already and stop the bleeding. While there are some interesting and worthwhile threads that are great to participate in, sadly the majority aren't.

Keep the Political News section open though.

My $.02.

I'm afraid that I must disagree.

However, I do think that with some sensible guidelines in PRSI, it should be possible to have a political forum where informed and engaged political discussion takes place.
 
However, I do think that with some sensible guidelines in PRSI, it should be possible to have a political forum where informed and engaged political discussion takes place.

The Rules for Appropriate Debate (RAD) are sensible - they describe civil debate. That's only one part of the equation, however. The other is of course the users who participate in discussions; if users don't use the RAD as a framework, there's no common ground of civility on which informed and engaged political discussion can take place.

Here's a quote from the RAD:

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