How is Apple Maps these days?

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by xxray, Jun 28, 2017.

  1. xxray macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2013
    I’ve always used Google Maps or Waze as my primary navigation apps, but I really would like to start using Apple Maps as my primary navigation app due to its integration with iOS and Siri. However, I just can’t see it matching Waze. Can anyone give me a fair comparison as to how Apple Maps holds up to the other two these days?
  2. AllergyDoc macrumors 65816


    Mar 17, 2013
    Utah, USA
    Much improved over a few years ago. I would rather use it than Google Maps because Maps is integrated into the Lock Screen, which really helps when driving. However, I'm still leery about using it when driving to new areas because of bad past experiences. I try to always review my route before leaving and will usually compare routes on both apps. I quite using Waze a while ago. Not for any good reason, just forgot about it, I suppose. I think I don't care much for the map it displays while driving.
  3. mattopotamus macrumors G5


    Jun 12, 2012
    I never have any issues with directions from apple maps. I am running beta 2, and have noticed that it is much more responsive when it comes to suggesting faster routes while you are driving. On my way home it suggested about 3 or 4 alternate routes.
  4. GIZBUG macrumors 68000


    Oct 28, 2006
    Chicago, IL
    Stick with WAZE, and help out the community of drivers on the road.
  5. Stefan johansson macrumors 65816

    Stefan johansson

    Apr 13, 2017
    I use different maps. For normal browsing Apple or google,for driving and walking on roads or in populated areas I use Apple maps,as those works with my watch,for boating,I prefer garmin blue charts,as those also give me depth,bottom type and position of lighthouses,shallow areas,and depth holes.
  6. Suckfest 9001 macrumors 65816

    Suckfest 9001

    May 31, 2015
    Apple Maps is still giving wrong destinations occasionally

    So, Google Maps
  7. VolceOntra macrumors 6502


    Apr 25, 2007
    Has to visit universities for my job, walking directions is not usable with Apple maps since it couldn’t even find the different parts of the campus.
  8. ryxn macrumors regular


    Jun 5, 2017
    I've had a few occasions when Apple Maps gave me a route that seemed fine, but changed along the way and became horribly inefficient. That happens on a few occasions, but usually only leaves me with being a few minutes later than expected. Walking directions need a lot of work imo.
  9. christogold1 macrumors newbie


    Jul 2, 2016
    Apple maps still doesn't do biking directions, though it's transit directions have gotten better.
  10. niji macrumors 6502a


    Feb 9, 2003
    from japan: in comparison with google maps and yahoo map (yahoo is huge in japan), there are still so so far fewer places of business listed on apple maps that generally makes it unusable.
    from SE Asia: apple maps is a joke.
  11. tjleonard macrumors 6502a

    Jun 25, 2013
    I can’t figure out why it will not tell me where I parked my car and not really sure why.
  12. Feenician macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2016
    To do that I think it still needs to have a) connected to your car Bluetooth during transit and b) know that Bluetooth is in fact a vehicle one. You will also need the appropriate Privacy -> Location Services -> System options switched on (I’m not sure what ones though). Assuming all of these requirements are satisfied I don’t know why it’s not working for you.
  13. italodance Suspended


    Jun 7, 2017
    Google is dead so i use Apple services only.
  14. Tom G. macrumors 68000

    Tom G.

    Jun 16, 2009
    Champaign/Urbana Illinois
    I have used Apple Maps pretty much exclusively since it became available and have never had any problems. I use google occasionally and sometimes even TomTom Navigator. I even experimented with Waze, but never liked it. However, I always seem to navigate back to Apple Maps (Pun intended).
  15. tjleonard macrumors 6502a

    Jun 25, 2013
    I’m not sure how it would know which is a car? I drive an Audi and it is built in. I just changed somethings so maybe it will work tomorrow ;) thanks for the tips!
  16. KittyKatta macrumors 6502a


    Feb 24, 2011
    I use Apple Maps because it integrates into my CarPlay. 80% of the time it gets me where I want to go without any issues. But that 20% where it screws up is really frustrating. Sometimes it will take a bad path. Sometimes it will not have a location. Sometimes I’ll miss an exit and then it will take so long to re-route me that I end up missing two more exits.

    But I take it as yet another flawed part of living in the Apple Ecosystem. Better options exist but I wont switch because I have to believe that Apple will one day catch up.

    (Also, once you start using other options it really shows how bad some Apple services are. Google Assistant. Ultraviolet 4K Movies. Google Photos. Amazon Echo. Gmail. Kindle Books. And many 3rd party apps. You really have to wonder what Apple has been doing with their resources...)
  17. iFanaddic macrumors 6502a


    Sep 24, 2008
    Montréal, Canada
    Apple map get me there, but everytime I punch my destination into Waze I get a faster ETA. After some testing both Apple maps’ and Waze respect their Proposed ETAs Waze is just significantly more efficient at fiding the right path, saving you precious minutes.

    I have once saved 23min with Waze on a 90min trip Apple was offering me. So you’ll get there, just much later!

    (For references I live in Montreal, Quebec, Canada)
  18. Feenician macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2016
    There’s been a lot of debate about that and I’ve never seen a definitive answer. There are some identifier codes in Bluetooth which may be used and then there’s the obvious like something called ‘Sync’ might well be a Ford car. There’s some speculation (from people who called random bluetooth devices common car bluetooth names) that there’s an additional criteria that the location services has to detect movement too (though it seems to me that’s not a perfect measure either, for obvious reasons). My personal feeling is that they probably use all of these and a bunch of heuristics but, hell, who knows o_O

    Hope the changes you made work out for you. The “Dude, where’s my car” feature, along with the “X minutes to Home/Work/Wherever you normally go at this time on this day” features are genuinely useful imo.
  19. tjleonard macrumors 6502a

    Jun 25, 2013
    Holy ****, it worked!!
  20. ipedro macrumors 68040


    Nov 30, 2004
    Toronto, ON
    Completely depends on which city you're in.

    I'm in Toronto and when Apple Maps was released, I would use Google Maps for time sensitive trips like if I were going to a job in an unknown place where I was relying on Maps. This one time, Google Maps sent me all around the city and when I suspected it might be wrong and tried Apple Maps, it gave me a much more direct and sensible route.

    This was when Apple Maps was famous for being wrong. It totally depends on your city. Sometimes Google Maps is worse. After that incident, I gained newfound trust in Apple Maps and kept using it as my primary maps app. It kept improving.

    These days, I haven't had a single instance of inaccurate directions. What I do still get is asking Apple maps for a nearby location and it listing places with that name in other cities. That should be common sense: Unless another city's name is specified, give directions to places nearby, not thousands of miles away.
  21. Feenician macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2016
    Awesome. It’s a handy feature.

    It’s a bizarre and severely offputting flaw that it does this. A really weird oversight in a mapping app that, especially in late iOS 10 and even more so in iOS 11, can stand with the best of them.
  22. ipedro macrumors 68040


    Nov 30, 2004
    Toronto, ON
    It depends. In cities with a large amount of iPhones, traffic conditions seem to be far more accurate. In Toronto, where a large proportion of the population has iPhones, traffic conditions are exceptionally accurate. Down to mere metres of where traffic is backed up to. I often get an "I've found a faster route" notice and then looked ahead to see traffic at a standstill with enough time to get off at the proposed exit and take the new route.

    In Lisbon which I visit often, very few people buy iPhones and traffic accuracy in Apple Maps are hit or miss. I also don't recall ever getting that faster route notice mid trip in Lisbon.

    I don't know if Apple has officially acknowledged that they use anonymous GPS data from iPhones in this way but this is how Waze works and I believe Apple uses a similar method which would account for the wildly varying extremes of users' reported experiences.
  23. electronicsguy macrumors 6502a


    Oct 12, 2015
    Pune, India
    why don't you try it out for yourself? is that a big deal?
  24. Feenician macrumors 601


    Jun 13, 2016
    Right under Location Services there’s an “About Location Services and Privacy” Link. If you tap it you see something like this.


    It’s as up front and clear as can be.
  25. Kcetech1 macrumors regular

    Nov 24, 2016
    Alberta Canada
    Well today it tried to send me off to the middle of nowhere when I was trying to get to my hotel. I trust it in some places but in some smaller centers and rural areas I travel its still slightly better than useless.

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