How is iPlus 2.0b vs. Ziphone 2.5c?

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by moviecouple, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. moviecouple macrumors regular

    Feb 29, 2008
    Just curious how the two match up and what people think?
  2. polishmacuser macrumors 6502a


    Jan 17, 2007
    Los Angeles
    well iplus downgrades the bootloader but for any reason that you need the 4.6 bootloader iplus will put it back while ziphone will only downgrade the bootloader and your still might be in trouble for future updates or if you need to go to the genius bar.
  3. Yagyu Jubei macrumors newbie

    Mar 8, 2008
    whats so important about bootloader?
  4. McGiord, Mar 15, 2008
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2011

    McGiord macrumors 601


    Oct 5, 2003
    Dark Castle
    As I understand it's the piece of software that handles something when the iPhone boots, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    If you have the wrong version you can't unlock it to use SIMs from non official carriers, and if you need to bring your phone back to apple for warranty/service they may not cover it.

    So if you are able to return your iPhone to its original condition you'll be more safe and out of trouble down the road.
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  5. Shackler macrumors 6502a


    Feb 3, 2007
    behind you!
    so would iplus be safer and better than Ziphone?
  6. igglepuff macrumors regular

    Sep 27, 2007
    yea, iplus 'downgrades' to 3.9FBL or somthing (fbl or bbl, fake boot laoder or blank, i forget what its called). the wa iplus does it(which i dont know tech. details on) is it downgrades to the blank/fake one that passes the security checks or something like that. As a result it is upgradable again to 4.6. it's basically a patched verison of the 4.6 or 3.9 Bl. If you are on the real 3.9 then you cannot go back up to 4.6 (ie downgraded w ziphone and then use iplus). You're stuck on 3.9. you can return to unpatched 3.9 to my understanding but not go back up again.
    basicall people on teh real 3.9 are still stuck on 3.9.

    i'd go iplus all the way, if needed to use it (on 3.9 w/ ipsf stle unlock)
  7. carfac macrumors 65816


    Feb 18, 2006
    So, iPlus give the the ability to re-up the BB... but how do you actually go back to 2.6? I have seen people talk about it, but no actual app to do so...
  8. cdd543 macrumors 6502


    Oct 13, 2006
    it's on another forum. Just google iplus 2.0b and you will find it. I have used them both and only functional difference for me is that locate me works with iplus, but it didn't on ziphone 2.5c. I had to start 3rd party app to get it to run. It works fine after iplus.
  9. cjsparkey macrumors newbie

    Mar 6, 2008
    I just got a iPhone last week and from 1.1.4 used ziphone to unlock it to use my work O2 sim, all went well with no side effects. My question is this will being downgraded to 3.9 stop me updating to future iPhone updates, 2.0? etc.
    Is there any way to restore my iPhone to 4.6 and do I need to?
  10. moviecouple thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 29, 2008
  11. idonotliketostu macrumors 6502

    Feb 28, 2008

    Wouldn't ziphone's refurb button allow you to restore the bootloader to is original state?
  12. cjsparkey macrumors newbie

    Mar 6, 2008
    Well thats what I thought until I read the comments about no going back from 3.9 once downgraded, not sure if I should be worried or not.
  13. hookem12387 macrumors 6502

    Sep 30, 2007
    Austin, Texas
    So it does sound like iplus is better, and just as easy from googling.
  14. cadujr macrumors newbie

    Feb 3, 2008
    It doesn't matter

    Who cares?
    EVERYBODY that was a 1.1.1 or less OOB iphone has the 3.9bl do you really think that apple will tell like 3000000 people that their phone can not be upgraded anymore?
    So 4.6 , 3.9 or whatever doesn't really matter....
    By the way i always see people saying that 3.9 fake/blank/whatever is upgradable but never saw anyone saying HOW to do it.
    This is just discussions about who stole software from who...
    as long this working....

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