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How is iTunes 10 the "next major release"?

C64

C64

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How can Steve stand on stage and talk about the "next major release" of iTunes, while there were only some minor updates?

1. They were only at 9.2.1
What gives?

2. Minor updates
- Ping tab (sure, the Ping service is new, but it's just another tab)
- Different album view
- Some layout tweaks (grey icons, bars, traffic light buttons)
- "A simpler way to sync" (how is any of this new?)

3. It's still not 64bit/Cocoa
Seriously?!

4. Related changes
- TV show rentals are an iTunes Store update, not much to do with the app
- AirTunes to AirPlay; more to do with the Apple TV, not iTunes per se

If anything, iTunes 10 should've been a completely new app. Rewritten, maybe renamed (just like AirTunes became AirPlay; although iPlay probably isn't a smart idea), and things like.. you know.. actually new functionality! There is so much lacking in this application, but all they do is mess around with the UI a bit and update a few existing features. Slapping a downright ugly icon on it doesn't make it new or 10-milestone-worthy either.
 
Psst hey.... You mad bro?



But seriously while a 64bit Cocoa version would be sexy, we didn't get it. Am I a little miffed? Yeah, but I'm not going to smash a bro like you seem to wanna. iTunes is opening a few seconds faster which is enough for me, and I like the few visual tweaks to the UI they've made. The buttons in mini mode look much nicer to say the least.
 
C64 said:
Don't you agree that going from 9.2 to 10 suggests something more than these minor things? Why waste version "10" on this?
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They hoped and assumed that Ping would be something greater than what it is...

I'm finding it quite annoying. Seems as if I'm only one of 100 people using it.
Not to mention the Facebook integration fell through..
 
MisturSrs said:
Psst hey.... You mad bro?

But seriously while a 64bit Cocoa version would be sexy, we didn't get it. Am I a little miffed? Yeah, but I'm not going to smash a bro like you seem to wanna. iTunes is opening a few seconds faster which is enough for me, and I like the few visual tweaks to the UI they've made. The buttons in mini mode look much nicer to say the least.
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Smash a bro? You play too much Nintendo.

I'm just confused how this constitutes as "major", that's all.
 
C64 said:
Smash a bro? You play too much Nintendo.

I'm just confused how this constitutes as "major", that's all.
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No I read too many K.C Green comics.
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And while I enjoy Apple products, keep in mind words like MAJOR and MAGICAL are common buzzwords. To the consumer, the logo change alone is MAJOR (also to the investors who are watching them change the logo for a well established multimillion dollar product)

Just relax B)
 
csjo00 said:
They hoped and assumed that Ping would be something greater than what it is...

I'm finding it quite annoying. Seems as if I'm only one of 100 people using it.
Not to mention the Facebook integration fell through..
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Keeping it inside iTunes will never make it a big hit for a broad audience. I'm sure they realize that. In the end Ping is just a way for Apple to openly collect tons of information on listening/viewing/purchasing habits, cloaked as a 'great social media network'.
 
MisturSrs said:
And while I enjoy Apple products, keep in mind words like MAJOR and MAGICAL are common buzzwords. To the consumer, the logo change alone is MAJOR (also to the investors who are watching them change the logo for a well established multimillion dollar product)
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Sure, but it's backward. What will the release be that will actually be rewritten in 64bit/Cocoa? 10.3.2? Thát would be a real update, but now the magical "10" number has already been wasted.

I don't care that it is. I do care that if thís was enough for them to jump to version 10, how long are we going to have to wait until we really see something new/updated? Because going from 9.2 to 10 implies a big change, going from 10.0 to 10.whatever does not.
 
It's a "major release" because Apple say it is. It really is as simple as that.
 
MisturSrs said:
No I read too many K.C Green comics.

And while I enjoy Apple products, keep in mind words like MAJOR and MAGICAL are common buzzwords. To the consumer, the logo change alone is MAJOR (also to the investors who are watching them change the logo for a well established multimillion dollar product)

Just relax B)
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Off-topic here, but I'm going to have to check out K.C. Green. I haven't heard of him before. :)
 
Overall, I'm satisfied with iTunes 10. Especially after I restored a proper Mac GUI and the old icon. :D
 
C64 said:
How can Steve stand on stage and talk about the "next major release" of iTunes, while there were only some minor updates?
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Apple went from version 5 to version 6 in less than one months. Apple has made version number changes for much less.

And the syncing performance (the only area where iTunes was extremely slow and always beachballed on me) is noticeably better (despite not being Cocoa or 64 bit).
 
Moving from iTunes version9-10 is big, why? Because people generally love the transition from single to double digits.
That and it shares a resemblance from another major transition that actually was major.. OS 9 to 10.

iTunes 9 to 10 with the only major feature being 'Ping'? Geez Steve is clearly losing his touch with computers and software.

Oh and dont forget a new icon = next revision number
 
I agree it's not a big revision. Ping? Big whoop. I don't use it and will not use it. It's all about marketing.. iTunes 10 has a bigger appeal than say iTunes 9.3
 
It's how the business world works. It may not seem fair or right in your eyes, but companies rarely care what you think of their actions.
 
If Apple had rewritten iTunes 10, they would have had no choice but to leave the ppc people behind. Now I agree it's not what everyone hoped, but it's good for me. Ping needs more time, but Apple should study other media networks and learn from them or someone else will beat them to it.
 
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