nixiemaiden said:It also has to do with if you broadcast your SSID or not. Skyhook drives around looking for broadcasted SSIDs to add them to their database or something like that.
Only the 3G model, not the WiFi-only model.http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad?mco=OTY2ODA0NQ
The ipad has a gps receiver.
Only the 3G model, not the WiFi-only model.
EssentialParado said:There has to be something else to it. I live in a field and this house was only built recently, with only our wifi signal being broadcast, yet it finds me perfectly.
I know it can find you using a wifi database when you're in a populated area without a connection, but I think when you have an Internet connection it uses some other magic to find you. Otherwise I'm really confused how it's done :s
I just moved in to this house a few months before I got my iPad and it immediately knew where I was. I don't think I have a static ip address either....whenever we unplug our modem for more than a few minutes we get a new ip address...yet the iPad still knows where I am. So I have no idea...all I know is that it creeps me out.
There has to be something else to it. I live in a field and this house was only built recently, with only our wifi signal being broadcast, yet it finds me perfectly.
They're watching you.
Someone's writing down your mistakes; someone's documenting your downfall.
Apple uses their own WiFi database now, not Skyhook's.
So I think I know what happened: someone (perhaps even you) with a GPS-equipped iPhone has been near or even in your house.
bcaslis said:SSID isn't a static IP, it's the network name broadcast by your wifi router. It's possible to turn this off but by default routers have this on. When you search for a wifi network the name you see listed is the SSID.
But does that mean if someone SPOTTED my wifi without connecting to it, that it would upload to apples servers?
Like my aunt just got wifi over the weekend. If my boyfriend goes there and tries to connect but can't because it is secure...does that mean my ipad will know where I am if I am able to connect to that same router? Creeeeepy.
kdarling said:Yes.
It's not done by SSIDs, btw, and no need to connect. WiFi databases are gathered by the transmitted MAC address embedded in the unit. That way, it's really unique. (Think of all the same-name default SSIDs out there called "Netgear" or "LinkSys".)
Not creepy. It's clever and useful for your own app enjoyment without having to pay for GPS.
What's interesting is that the military uses a similar technology, called "signals of opportunity" (akin to the phrase "targets of opportunity"). In the probable case that GPS is jammed, they and their weapons can fall back on a database of known civilian radio/TV towers.
That makes sense why when my ip address changes my location doesn't. I do admit that it is cool and makes some apps convenient but it is kind of eerie that they know where I am.
It uses 3 hotspots to triangulate your position, it's not that magical although it's nice.