How is the MBP better than PC notebooks??

powz

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I had a rather heated discussion over at the notebookreview forums with some PC notebook lovers who were basically saying how high-end PC notebooks (particularly the new T61p from Lenovo...more info at http://laptoping.com/lenovo-thinkpad-t61p.html) is better than the MBP. Now I'm wondering if I listed all the benefits of the MBP adequately.

So...I'm just wondering why you guys think the MBP is THE notebook to rule them all??? Of course, feel free to post if you don't feel like this is the case, too.

Thanks!
 

iToaster

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OS X rips "Vista" to shreds, backlit keyboard, glowing apple, iSight, 1 inch thin, scrolling trackpad, apple remote, aluminum enclosure, magsafe, slot loading optical drive, up to 200 Gb (250 17") drives from apple, the cool factor, auto adjusting brightness of screen and keyboard. I list them as I think of them, and also of the info I can gather from the article.
 

Sdao

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See, I'd agree...but I'm not sure how convincing that would be for the average Joe deciding between a MBP or high-end PC :p
haha well, let me elaborate

in your original post you said a few high end PC laptop users didnt think the MBP was all that great, here's where they are wrong

I just switched last week to a new MBP 2.4. This is my first mac, I have been using PC's (including high end laptops) for 10+ years (I'm only 20).

The MBP is not only a high end laptop with plenty of power, amazing portability, and an amazing design, but it's also an experience. It is robust, responsive, efficient. Every little detail has been thought out, whether its the light sensing screen, the backlit keyboard (which the majority of high end PC laptops are missing) or the magsafe charger. Apple took their best and most innovative ideas (in regards to portable computing) and put them to work in this laptop. The amount of power and speed I get from my MBP is untouchable. All in all, I've been through 3 PC laptops in 3 years as a student in university, and not one of them has been as enjoyable as my MBP, and its barely a week old.
 

live4ever

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That Lenovo has some nice specs (I like the ExpressCard/54 slot, 1920x1200 screen and U-W wireless). Definitely the PC to get if you don't need OS X for all your software.
 

RichL

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What makes it appealing to me is the fact that they are being creative. It's funny how much creativity can sway the consumers. PCs are great machines and all but they are still the same PCs they were a few years ago (talking about laptop design). How many PCs have that magnetic charger? It's simple but it's such a good idea. Just as others have pointed out the F-key functions, I'd have to agree they are very appealing. On top of it all the OS is very speedy and well designed.

If other PC companies had developers with a little creativity and that "thinking outside the box" attitude as Apple seems to have gotten a hold of, PC vendor's laptop sales would be on the rise as steep as teen pregnancy.

-Rich L.
 

Tumeg101

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-Operating System
-Looks AWESOME (pro, and reg.)
-Better Overall
-Less Viruses
-Better Pre-Loaded Programs
-iLife is the Best Thing invented,

and basically every reason that is shown on the commercials :p


:apple:
 

foidulus

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Weight is a big one

I've been looking at PC laptops that can do hd like the 17" mbp can(w/ the optional screen) and I found a couple, but none that weigh less than the 17" mbp.

One nice feature on some PC laptops that I wish Apple offered is 1680x1050 screens on 15" notebooks. I would get the 15" mbp, but I need a bit more space than the 1440x900(or whatever the pixel count) is.

Another thing that Apple does better is the whole buying experience. PCs STILL use technical jargon in their product descriptions and it can be frustrating. For example, instead of just giving the resolution of the displays, they insist on using terms like UXGA, WXGA,UXGA+ etc. What does that mean? I had to look the terms up on wikipedia, and the sad thing is some of them are still ambiguous. Why not just tell me the resolution? Even if you wanted to use those terms, you could say UXGA(1440x900), its not like it takes up a lot of space. Furthermore, if you buy from a manufacturer's web page, it can be a trying experience. Both Dell and HP have incredibly ugly, cluttered, and non-standards compliant web pages and it can be hard to figure out just what models they have. Am I looking for a laptop for the home or a media laptop? Whats the difference? Also, depending on where you go you can get tons of different prices/deals, you never know if you are getting a bargain or not....Apple makes the buying process very simple with a nice line of products and a very clean interface. Now granted they will sell you products that they might not have in stock for the next month, but nobodys perfect :p
 

amitface

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All three of my MBPs have had yellow stains at the bottom while none of my PCs have ever had major problems. :eek:

I'll admit though, OS X is pretty nice.
 

Maui

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I have been using my new MBP for about a month now. Not a single crashed program, or "program not responding." Not a single Mac equivalent of the blue screen of death. Not a single "unresponding DLL." Not a single arcane error message. No Norton or Zone Labs to suck up the system resources.

During the same month, on my work Thinkpad with XP, I've had dozens of the above.
 

pieman02

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Apr 27, 2007
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All that I have to say is when my girlfriend opened her brand new laptop up out of the box, I was thinking it is bulky, gross, doesn't look comfortable or fun to use...

Just go into an Apple store or some reseller and feel a MBP. When I took it out of the box I was VERY impressed at how well designed and built it was...little rubbery edges so you don't slit your wrists while typing, etc etc, and probably the best part - a keyboard, a trackpad, and a power button - none of those hotkey button things or physical swucthes to turn wifi on and off, just so simple and good a design.

But we all know why a MBP is better than a high-end PC laptop...ONE TRACKPAD BUTTON! :D
 

queshy

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I've been looking at PC laptops that can do hd like the 17" mbp can(w/ the optional screen) and I found a couple, but none that weigh less than the 17" mbp.

One nice feature on some PC laptops that I wish Apple offered is 1680x1050 screens on 15" notebooks. I would get the 15" mbp, but I need a bit more space than the 1440x900(or whatever the pixel count) is.

Another thing that Apple does better is the whole buying experience. PCs STILL use technical jargon in their product descriptions and it can be frustrating. For example, instead of just giving the resolution of the displays, they insist on using terms like UXGA, WXGA,UXGA+ etc. What does that mean? I had to look the terms up on wikipedia, and the sad thing is some of them are still ambiguous. Why not just tell me the resolution? Even if you wanted to use those terms, you could say UXGA(1440x900), its not like it takes up a lot of space. Furthermore, if you buy from a manufacturer's web page, it can be a trying experience. Both Dell and HP have incredibly ugly, cluttered, and non-standards compliant web pages and it can be hard to figure out just what models they have. Am I looking for a laptop for the home or a media laptop? Whats the difference? Also, depending on where you go you can get tons of different prices/deals, you never know if you are getting a bargain or not....Apple makes the buying process very simple with a nice line of products and a very clean interface. Now granted they will sell you products that they might not have in stock for the next month, but nobodys perfect :p

Hehe you're SO right about the buying experience. With apple, the process of buying is remarkably easy. Dell and HP aside, LENOVO has the absolute worst webpage ever for buying...particularly their canadian one. It's almost as if they don't give a you know what about their Canadian customers.
 

Smoothie

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After having returned two MBPs in a row with build quality issues, I have more appreciation for my ThinkPad. It's not as pretty, but it has a much better screen and keyboard and everything works as it should. The number of posts here and on the Apple forum with complaints about hardware and software issues is much larger than comparable posts on the ThinkPad forums. The MBP has great styling and some unique design features, but my foray into the Mac world has convinced me that the claimed superiority of Apple hardware and software is in large part successful marketing. I may try another MBP in the future because there are things about it that I like, but I would use it as a second laptop and not a replacement for my ThinkPad.
 

Sopranino

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All three of my MBPs have had yellow stains at the bottom while none of my PCs have ever had major problems. :eek:

I'll admit though, OS X is pretty nice.
Yellow stains on a MBP??? Are you maybe referring to an older MB? They did have an issue with that but it has long since been addressed.

And yes OSX is very good!!:)

Sopranino
 

PDE

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If I could run osx legally on a thinkpad, that would be my choice. Sure, it's not as sexy as the MBP, but it's sturdier, more travel-suitable, has an even better keyboard, a display that can tilt back properly, less heat and 3 years warranty to back it all up. When you've dealt with multiple defective MBPs, all you want is something that is perfect. And I think the thinkpad, for all its utilitarian looks, is a great laptop. Windows sucks though.
 

DoFoT9

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well a mac is a mac. the expensive thing that it is. its amazing and raw beauty, the 1inch thick enclosure. and last but not least the OS!!!!! u cannot beat OSX. if you want to dye, get a pc. if you dont want to get paid out, get a pc, if u dont care get a mac. itl be worth it
 

md63

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I have been using Thinkpads for years and just recently purchased a MBP. For a road warrior, I have no doubt that a T61 would be a better choice just for durability. My Thinkpads have taken so much abuse, that I'm surprised I never had any problems with them. The MBP is a nice computer and I really like it, however, I don't believe it will be as durable as a Thinkpad.
 

squeeks

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Yellow stains on a MBP??? Are you maybe referring to an older MB? They did have an issue with that but it has long since been addressed.

And yes OSX is very good!!:)

Sopranino
i believe he is referring to the yellow screen issue...
 

squeeks

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I have been using my new MBP for about a month now. Not a single crashed program, or "program not responding." Not a single Mac equivalent of the blue screen of death. Not a single "unresponding DLL." Not a single arcane error message. No Norton or Zone Labs to suck up the system resources.
apparently you've never turned it on
 

juanm

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Yes, there are PCs with better specs on paper, but, unless you do only one task at the time, and nothing else, I still think Macs are faster.