How is THIS the ultimate web browsing experience?

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MistaBungle

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I don't know what they have planned for this but this seems like a deal breaker for most. Going to a dedicated app for YouTube (a fraction of Flash) is brutal and I hate it on the phone.
 

dmr727

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Because the worst part of any web experience is that horrible piece of bloated garbage known as Flash. I have it disabled on all my Macs and PCs too.
 

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I don't know what they have planned for this but this seems like a deal breaker for most. Going to a dedicated app for YouTube (a fraction of Flash) is brutal and I hate it on the phone.
The Youtube apps on the iPhone, iPad, does not use Flash, it uses the MP4 stream.
 

Sydde

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Because any serious site that wants real traffic will have "an app for that". Many already do.
 

Airforce

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He got me excited when I was following the live feed video. I was expecting a real computer that would be capable of replacing a laptop. I actually thought this thing would be better than a netbook when he said it would be! Damn he is good, but I won't buy the thing.
 

Palm Pimp

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Think "spin". Jobs is a master at it, despite the glaring inconsistency of reality vs what comes out of his salesman-mouth.
Seriously, what are casuals going to do when they realize they can't view most of the sites they browse, when cell phones like the Nexus can?
 

Coroe

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Youtube, Vimeo et al. are supporting HTML5. Flash is dead and Apple is forcing the content providers to switch to a superior technology.
 

dmr727

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Flash is dead and Apple is forcing the content providers to switch to a superior technology.
And it's not a bad thing. There's nothing wrong with the industry moving to something better. Apple's just trying to force it along, that's all.
 

VenusianSky

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Apple is forcing the content providers to switch to a superior technology.
Apple doesn't have that much influence.

Flash will die, but it won't be for some time. Too many businesses use it. Many business have the "if it isn't broke, don't fix it" mentality. Flash isn't a broken technology, just dated.
 

Palm Pimp

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If Apple were really serious in battling Flash, they'd disable it in all their Mac products, but they won't.
 

dmr727

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Apple doesn't have that much influence.
Actually, I think they do. Who is a bigger player in this market right now? Everyone and their Mom is trying to figure out how to make money with downloadable content, and Apple is in the front of it all. Hulu isn't going to ignore this.
 

VenusianSky

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Actually, I think they do. Who is a bigger player in this market right now? Everyone and their Mom is trying to figure out how to make money with downloadable content, and Apple is in the front of it all. Hulu isn't going to ignore this.
The biggest player in the market are Windows-based computers. That cannot be denied. Microsoft is actually one to contribute to the demise of Flash-based sites, but even they can only do so much. I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe is trying to kill off Flash themselves. They are doing a good job at killing off ColdFusion, another internet technology also acquired from Macromedia, like Flash.
 

Sydde

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Adobe has probably got their money's worth out of Macromedia as it is, flash dying will not be that big a whoop to them.
 

dmr727

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The biggest player in the market are Windows-based computers.
But I see the big players in digital media distribution as not having to do with operating systems, but rather companies like Hulu, Amazon, YouTube, Apple (I'm talking iTunes here, not OS X). All these companies are trying to push content that people will buy, and they don't care what the underlying technology is as long as it reaches the widest audience. Hulu can move away from Flash to accommodate Apple, while still not losing any other platform. And it's not like Flash is the best solution anyway, so I'd be surprised if Hulu stuck it out anyway.
 

igrover

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Forget about flash ads: what about internet porn?

Seriously, this is probably going to be a deal breaker for some average joes.

Imagine forking out $700 for a hyped-up "ultimate web browsing experience", getting it home, opening it up and settling down to a night of porn browsing, only to find out that none of your favorite videos will play.

And this not only applies to flash but to all those videos encoded in windows wmv as well. :eek:


So says my co-worker who is a connoisseur of porn.
 

G4R2

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If the missing plugin is Flash then it's doing me a favor not to support it.

I can't say I've ever missed it on the iPhone and I hope it continues its decline into irrelevancy.
 

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