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Shares about performance & battery life is welcomed :)

want to understand if i should upgrade my maxed out 2017 MBP 15'
 
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On all my MacBook Pro's (listed in my signature) I have to agree with everyone else that macOS Monterey is much, MUCH snappier at just about everything!

I did a clean install as I always do when a new version of macOS comes out on each MacBook Pro, and I am just very impressed with how much quicker the systems are vs. when they were running macOS Big Sur.

Good job Apple.

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On all my MacBook Pro's (listed in my signature) I have to agree with everyone else that macOS Monterey is much, MUCH snappier at just about everything!

I did a clean install as I always do when a new version of macOS comes out on each MacBook Pro, and I am just very impressed with how much quicker the systems are vs. when they were running macOS Big Sur.

Good job Apple.

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I feel like Monterey is making better use of the new CPUs which is probably why everything is faster starting from the bootup time to launching apps and overall snappiness of the entire OS.
 
I only have an iMac not a laptop but so far all I can tell you is one word.... SNAPPIER
I know this is sometimes used as a joke regarding peoples expectations. But, I have got to say my Late 2015 iMac is indeed more responsive both in Safari, and navigation, and opening apps. Frankly. I’ve never seen this amount of benefit. Particularly on an older Mac going to a new OS version.
 
I upgraded yesterday after reading hoakley's blog. Even though he approves of macOS Monterey, I still had my doubts. But after testing it for the past 24 hours, I have to say that this is arguably the smoothest upgrading experience in recent memory. A few of the applications had already pushed out updates for Monterey prior to Oct 25th: 1Password, Bartender 4, Parallels Desktop, OmniFocus 3, Reeder, SoundSource, TinkerTool System, WaterMinder. Some were updated within 24 hours: Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo, Affinity Publisher, HazeOver, PopClip, Scrivener, Xcode, Zoom. DiskWarrior is also still working with my Time Machine backups.

Not a single game that I play wasn't working and AirPlay to Mac is buttery smooth.

Overall, this definitely feels like a refinement upgrade and has the potential to be another Snow Leopard if Apple manages to iron out minor bugs (and not introduces new ones with Universal Control).
 
I see people saying the clean install was easy. Anyone try the new method Apple created? Wondering if I just need my Time Machine backup and can do a clean install and then bring everything back from Time Machine. Is that how it works? Or is that not a true clean install since I am bringing everything back?
 
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I have not noticed much difference in performance between Big Sur and Monterey. If anything, Monterey seems to be less smooth in a few places. For example, open anything within system preference seems to need a bit more loading time. Sometimes, single click is not recognized. It is a 2019 16 MBP base model. Maybe I should try a clean install to see if that changes given many people's experience here is that Monterey is snappier.
 
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I am noticing some things have changed, such as my pdf scanner, it puts extra letters in the save as area, I emailed the developer for a fix. the other is Backblaze I am getting permission errors and it stops backing up. I also contacted the developer. I do use icloud for a backup but still need somethings that a second off site is needed. I am sure some developers didn't change things or are up working on fixes. I know that with Big Sur, a had a lot of app updates. I really don't see a lot of change. Safari is still slow and has some site permission issues, all will be fixed in due time.
 
I regret my early upgrade since the maps app don't work smooth on my 2020 5K iMac and I can't access my network drive over SMB. This problem occurred first on Big Sur and I had to wait for an update. Since than, everything worked perfect and now the problem is back. Very annoying. The workaround ist to access the disk over Windows in a VM.
I switched last year to macOS, and if this is "normal" that i have to deal with issues every year, I will probably switch back to Windows since the experience on macOS is all but smooth. Not being able to access data on a disk is no joke for me.
 
I feel like Monterey is making better use of the new CPUs which is probably why everything is faster starting from the bootup time to launching apps and overall snappiness of the entire OS.

Yes, however, all my MacBook Pro's (as of now) are Intel based and are still much, much faster than the same MBP's running macOS Big Sur!

I was busy on launch day, and even though I was able to get an order in for a new 16" MacBook Pro with M1 Max with 10-core CPU/32-core GPU as well as 400GB/s memory bandwidth, I will not be getting it until late November...which sucks, but that is on me.

However, as I said earlier, these Intel MBP's are running amazingly fast, even my 13" Early-2015 MacBook Pro. Also, I have noticed that they are not running near as hot as they were on macOS Big Sur. That could be due to me always fresh-installing the new version of macOS every year.

We will see how these Intel models continue running as the year goes on, and more updates to Monterey are released. This feels like a very "Snow Leopard" type release.

Edit: I am a firm believer in fresh installs each year. I know there is a debate every year on these very forums about if they really do anything, or if you would see the same speed increase if you would just upgrade over the previous version of macOS. I think a fresh install is the way to go for sure.

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Like others, I am noticing app launch times are "snappier" which is a welcome update, my M1 MBA was already snappy, but now it is even more so. I haven't noticed any bugs yet and battery life is the same as it was in Big Sur.

I wouldn't say I was that excited about this release, apart from maybe Quick Notes and Hide My Email, the other features seem a bit underwhelming, and with the UI there is very little to tell this apart from Big Sur. However, I am not complaining, macOS sometimes needs releases where the main focus is on performance and stability. It reminds me more of the Snow Leopard release.
 
Im on a lowly 27" iMac from 2017 Kaby Lake i7, 1TB SSD, with 32GB ram and a old Radeon Pro 580 with 8GB of VRAM. BTO costing way to much money and now almost extinct, and as I doubt it will get another update as a quick tip of the hat as they yell get Apple silicon (I may go full gaming Windows machine after this since PS5's are impossible to find) they finally managed to fix the red dot that never went away when you didnt use iCloud on the mac, praise be, it only took two years...
 
I have an M1 MBA and just downloaded Monterey yesterday, and I feel like I'm running Big Sur 11.7
Sounds very promising! So updating to Montery is almost better than updating to Big Sur (the latest)?
 
I have noticed less memory being used for the same apps running on my iMac 24" M1 and my 14" MBP, both with 16GB of RAM. I have about 1GB less in use and memory pressure is green. With Big Sur sometimes it went to yellow.
 
Sounds very promising! So updating to Montery is almost better than updating to Big Sur (the latest)?
I mean the latest Big Sur update is only a security update I believe.

But yeah, my apps haven't acted any differently in Monterey than Big Sur.
 
I mean the latest Big Sur update is only a security update I believe.

But yeah, my apps haven't acted any differently in Monterey than Big Sur.
I'm still running Mojave on my iMac and was considering updating to Big Sur but I've been putting it off for half a year...
 
Today things are slower than normal. taking forever for apps to open. So I am not sure if the system is updating or if things are not happy. But I don't see many things the new OS is worth this plunge yet. I did find out there was an error with Bitdefender and they fixed it.

The situation you reported has been fixed. Please follow these steps:
- Open Bitdefender Antivirus for MAC
- Click on Actions in the menu bar at the top
- Click on Update Virus Database

Or you can simply press the following combination on your keyboard to perform the update while you have Bitdefender on your screen: Command + U

If Restart Now doesn't appear, restart manually.
 
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Apple seems to have fixed a ton of outstanding bugs in Textedit, Finder &c, but I wonder why they didn't made those fixes in Bug Sur as well.

They also neutered, crippled and utterly destroyed Books.
 
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