I know it’s not there on android but with Apple going from 64GB to 256GB how long do you see this happening as after all these options still exist on the iPad Pro’s...does it make too much business sense to remove it?
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iPhone 11 Pro How long do you see Apple selling 64GB of storage?
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Another three to five years. I think we’re a ways away from 128gb base storage.
16 was the standard base for what seemed like forever. 32 was actually dropped relatively quickly at least as far as mid-tier and high-end iPads and iPhones are concerned.
2010-2014: 16GB
2015-2016: 32GB
2017-current: 64GB
I'm hopeful for this, but not holding my breath. I'd say we have about a 50/50 chance.
For another 3 years I think, for three reasons:
Firstly, 64GB of storage is cheaper than 128GB and it allows Apple to keep the entry level model price (the one that it markets) as low as possible but allows them to maintain their margins per unit. Apple won’t switch from this until they have to.
Secondly, I’m willing to bet that many simply don’t need more storage, right now.
My case in point:
64GB iPhone XR user.
18.4 GB used on my iPhone, 17.5GB on iCloud.
Spotify user. I don’t generally take videos, I usually take photos only on day outs/vacations, nor do I use my phone to play games on. I watch Netflix etc on my tv.
My phone is basically a caching device for web services.
I’m guessing that there are still lots of people like me & that 64GB will stick around for a while.
And finally, until we fully enter the world of 5g, 5k and VR/AVR and the vastly larger file sizes that this will entail will mean that even using your phone as a ‘caching device’ will need lots of storage.
So all in all, I’m betting this will be around 2022.
Firstly, 64GB of storage is cheaper than 128GB and it allows Apple to keep the entry level model price (the one that it markets) as low as possible but allows them to maintain their margins per unit. Apple won’t switch from this until they have to.
Secondly, I’m willing to bet that many simply don’t need more storage, right now.
My case in point:
64GB iPhone XR user.
18.4 GB used on my iPhone, 17.5GB on iCloud.
Spotify user. I don’t generally take videos, I usually take photos only on day outs/vacations, nor do I use my phone to play games on. I watch Netflix etc on my tv.
My phone is basically a caching device for web services.
I’m guessing that there are still lots of people like me & that 64GB will stick around for a while.
And finally, until we fully enter the world of 5g, 5k and VR/AVR and the vastly larger file sizes that this will entail will mean that even using your phone as a ‘caching device’ will need lots of storage.
So all in all, I’m betting this will be around 2022.
I think (and hope) Apple will start selling base 128 Gb iPhone for the top model starting 2020, leaving the 64 Gb option to the cheaper models.
Interesting article:
www.imore.com
Turns out 64GB in an iPhone probably is enough after all
Three weeks ago we asked a question. "Is 64GB in an iPhone enough?" The answer was a resounding "Yes" which probably surprised everyone involved.
www.imore.com
I thought they would have changed it this year but evidently not, but I think they may stretch it for another year.
For the price 64 is pathetic.
For the price 64 is pathetic.
Of course it has a lot to do with the XR. The XR has an inferior camera setup and you don't take many photos and videos. In contrast, one of the biggest draws of the Pro/Max line is the camera, and the phone costs a LOT of money. For that kind of money, and to support that kind of usage, it should ship with 128 GB base.
They will keep it at 64GB... for most people it will be fine. I don’t even use all of it with 32GB free which is less then 50% of usable storage which is less then the 64 they advertise. Whatever I need to store is on my iPad
The camera setup isn’t “inferior” it has the same wide angle lens as the XS and just missing the tele photo lens. The telephoto lens is the inferior of the two in terms of quality with an inferior lens and only bringing 2 times optical zoom.
Storage upgrades have always been a huge cash cow for Apple since they started in a garage. That's never going to change. They make hundreds of millions of $$ on storage upgrades on all their products. It's their milk & honey. iPhone will always have cramped storage on the entry model for as long as Apple sells it.
I think this is about right.
I’ve always gotten the largest storage I can, and have generally held off upgrading until the top tier storage increased. That will probably continue on my iPad purchases where most of my video and larger files wind up, but I‘ve finally got a comfortable amount of headroom on my 256GB iPhone X. I’m not in a hurry to upgrade it. I don’t keep anything in the cloud but email, and the H.265 shift has reduced the space I’ll need for media.
So I’ve been pretty hungry for storage over the years and I’d nearly be satisfied with 128GB. I know plenty of people that barely make a dent in 64GB. If your phone is just a communication device, you don’t need it. If people will buy less phones because the price is higher, or the features are fewer, but won’t hesitate because of the base storage then Apple doesn’t need to change anything. I’d also argue that making the base model something I’d be happy with is overkill and wasting other people’s money.
As do I. I’m not a ‘heavy user’ in terms of media/photos or even applications for that matter. I could probably survive on 32 GB if I wanted to.
The reality is, consumers will probably always opt for the entry-level storage, being it’s the cheapest and they probably don’t know them selves how much they actually need, unless the store representative sells them on a higher storage or there’s a promotion.
Something like this:
iPhone 12 Pro 64gb: $999
iPhone 12 Pro 256gb: $1399
iPhone 12 Pro 1TB: $1899
iPhone 12 Pro 64gb: $999
iPhone 12 Pro 256gb: $1399
iPhone 12 Pro 1TB: $1899
I’m making the point that many people just want a nice phone and use cloud services (including storing their photos and videos on iCloud), instead of carting around all of their content on their phones (which is of course, fine, and Apple makes the 256GB iPhone Pros for those people). In that usage scenario, 64GB is fine.
The other point I’m trying to make is that to put it bluntly, people like us who spend time on Mac forums are probably not ‘regular’ people and I’m guessing that many ‘regulars’ just want a nice phone - but they don’t push it to the edge of what it can do.
Perhaps though, I shouldn’t have used myself as an example. Having said that: I didn’t get a OLED iPhone as I have PWM sensitivity.
It really is a thing for some people & I’m hugely irritated by Apple putting their best tech into a device that I actually can’t use because of the screen tech. If the screen was no issue, I’d be one of the people buying the iPhone 11 Pro 64Gb.
Finally, why still the XR? The 11 doesn’t feel like a huge enough jump over the 11 to me, to justify it.
That doesn’t mean Apple can’t give you more for the same price. I mean 128Gb won’t hurt but I can live with 64GB because I stream a lot.
