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Still rockin two 2015 ipads, 2013 imac, iphone se (will replace batteries when needed) and a watch series 1. I like the 1, it just works. My ipad battery is only lasting about 4 hours on very low backlight. Might need a new $50 battery (we do them ourselves).
 
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Apple products have been known for their longevity at least from my experience. I was given a Macintosh Classic in 2000 and it was still capable of email and web access.

I found a ton of earlier beige Sculley-era stuff during the 2000s that worked and in Kentucky Apple products depreciate a ton in a few years. I was getting Power Mac 6100s for $7 and a Mac G3 all-in-one for $40

My PowerBook G4 Titanium was given to me (guy was tossing it away to buy a new Macbook) in 2014 and it still holds charge and browses many modern SSL sites (with OS X 10.2 and Netscape 9.0). I found my iPhone 4 disposed of in a junkyard

That's why I eventually bought back into Apple. I get what I pay for.
 
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Apple products have been known for their longevity at least from my experience. I was given a Macintosh Classic in 2000 and it was still capable of email and web access.

I found a ton of earlier beige Sculley-era stuff during the 2000s that worked and in Kentucky Apple products depreciate a ton in a few years. I was getting Power Mac 6100s for $7 and a Mac G3 all-in-one for $40

My PowerBook G4 Titanium was given to me (guy was tossing it away to buy a new Macbook) in 2014 and it still holds charge and browses many modern SSL sites (with OS X 10.2 and Netscape 9.0)

That's why I eventually bought back into Apple. I get what I pay for.

Well said. I recently turned on my old iPhone 5 (from 2012) and even after 7+ years, I can still web browse and go on YouTube.

I bet that if the battery in these Apple Watches are good, the watch itself will be good for 6 years or so.
 
Here's another thing I'm seeing common in Goodwill stores across the land. Those 30-pin 'iHome' speaker dock/clock radio combos. Great way of reusing an older iPod or iPhone.

As with any smart device I've experienced, a smart watch battery will last a lifetime if you avoid this:

1. Leaving it on the charging dock for overnight/days

2. Keeping it out of extremes (gasoline, dirt, abuse)

3. Charging it before the battery reaches less than 30% and unplugging the charge when it's close to 99%

Even then, a dead Apple Watch can still be a nifty nightstand clock on the dock in Nightstand Mode.
 
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I have an out of warranty watch that has become unusable because the battery expanded and popped the screen off.

Apple’s position is that it is out of warranty so they are have offered $299 to swap it. But that’s expensive to repair a known problem from Apple.

Apple did say that if you look after the watch you could get 7 year lifespan but refuse to put that in writing.

As many Apple user do upgrade as new items come on the market and have not tested the lifespan of their watches. I did invest a lot and expected a longer than warranty lifespan.

Has anyone had success dealing with Apple and “expected lifespan” and can you give me any pointers?

I need to write an official complaint to them as my next step and then see what their official response is.

This is untrue. If your battery became swollen, Apple can replace your watch at a battery rate of $79. They will just have to ship it out.
 
Still rockin two 2015 ipads, 2013 imac, iphone se (will replace batteries when needed) and a watch series 1. I like the 1, it just works. My ipad battery is only lasting about 4 hours on very low backlight. Might need a new $50 battery (we do them ourselves).

I sold my mint first GEN stainless Apple Watch two years ago when the Series 4 was upon us. I was blown away that no one really tried to haggle me on the price of what I was asking, and the buyer mentioned, Apple products just lasts if they’re well-maintained through regular charging/no drops, ect, easily will ‘out-live’ their life expectancy.
 
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I have an out of warranty watch that has become unusable because the battery expanded and popped the screen off.

Apple’s position is that it is out of warranty so they are have offered $299 to swap it. But that’s expensive to repair a known problem from Apple.

Apple did say that if you look after the watch you could get 7 year lifespan but refuse to put that in writing.

As many Apple user do upgrade as new items come on the market and have not tested the lifespan of their watches. I did invest a lot and expected a longer than warranty lifespan.

Has anyone had success dealing with Apple and “expected lifespan” and can you give me any pointers?

I need to write an official complaint to them as my next step and then see what their official response is.
My out of warranty experience with Apple was better than what they quoted you.
This past Sept my Series 0 Watch (Space Black Stainless Steel) was exactly 4 years old when the display popped open due to a swollen battery. Other than that it was in virtuallly brand new condition - hardly a scratch on the case or link band, and the display glass itself still looked brand new - so maybe a testament to the durability of the SS case + sapphire crystal. The battery life was still good (charged nightly), I hadn't noticed any decrease in the 4 years I had it.

I brought it in to the Apple Store and instead of repairing it, they gave me a brand new in-the-box identical S0 replacement unit for the normal cost of a battery repair, C$99. Yeah the S0 is kinda slow doing some things - plus I had been eyeing those Series 5 watches that came out just before this happened... But other than being stuck on watchOS 4 it works fine and basically I have a brand new watch - I can hold off upgrading to a newer model for a while longer.
 
Are those with the swelling/screen popping issues leaving their watch on charge for days or overnight or was there some QC issue at Apple I'm not aware of?
 
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I don't recommend keeping ANY lithium ion battery device overnight on charge. Some sources claim never letting it go below 30% and never charging to 100% (just go to 80%) is advisable.

My Galaxy S5 swelled after leaving it on charge for a couple of days. At least its battery was easily replaced. I've been super cautious since. On every device. I only let my Watch charge an hour every evening.
 
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I don't recommend keeping ANY lithium ion battery device overnight on charge. Some sources claim never letting it go below 30% and never charging to 100% (just go to 80%) is advisable.

My Galaxy S5 swelled after leaving it on charge for a couple of days. At least its battery was easily replaced. I've been super cautious since. On every device. I only let my Watch charge an hour every evening.
Sorry but I don't agree. These are well engineered products that have voltage regulation and overcharging circuitry built in. I have charged my iPhone X over night since it came out, My two watches, the original and my new S5 charged every night without problem. Lots of myths on the internet.
 
My swollen S5 battery certainly wasn't a myth.

Let's see how well that 'overcharge circuitry' pans out shall we? Leave a MBP plugged in 24/7 and watch the battery health decline rapidly. Good luck!

The main reason my mother's iPhone 6S was at 65% battery health was because when at home she left it plugged in 24/7 for days.
 
Sorry but I don't agree. These are well engineered products that have voltage regulation and overcharging circuitry built in. I have charged my iPhone X over night since it came out, My two watches, the original and my new S5 charged every night without problem. Lots of myths on the internet.

Exactly this.
 
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Let's see how well that 'overcharge circuitry' pans out shall we? Leave a MBP plugged in 24/7 and watch the battery health decline rapidly.

You don’t have any evidence supporting this. Show me a MacBook Pro (specifically a certain year) plugged in 24/7 and how the ‘battery health’ Would ‘rapidly declined‘. What you’re saying is merely a projection, because I could make the opposing argument that I do leave a MacBook Pro in 24/7 the battery has not rapidly declined by any means at all just based on usage Without being on the charger. You’d have to show me graphs of statistical battery degradation to support your argument.
 
You don’t have any evidence supporting this. Show me a MacBook Pro (specifically a certain year) plugged in 24/7 and how the ‘battery health’ Would ‘rapidly declined‘. What you’re saying is merely a projection, because I could make the opposing argument that I do leave a MacBook Pro in 24/7 the battery has not rapidly declined by any means at all just based on usage Without being on the charger. You’d have to show me graphs of statistical battery degradation to support your argument.

I support this argument. My MacBook stays connected to power almost throughout the whole day when I’m at work and then disconnected when I go home and back again the next day for the entire day and I’ve been doing the same routine since last 10 years without any battery issues. There are loads of myths on the internet.
 
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Here's another thing I'm seeing common in Goodwill stores across the land. Those 30-pin 'iHome' speaker dock/clock radio combos. Great way of reusing an older iPod or iPhone.

As with any smart device I've experienced, a smart watch battery will last a lifetime if you avoid this:

1. Leaving it on the charging dock for overnight/days

2. Keeping it out of extremes (gasoline, dirt, abuse)

3. Charging it before the battery reaches less than 30% and unplugging the charge when it's close to 99%

Even then, a dead Apple Watch can still be a nifty nightstand clock on the dock in Nightstand Mode.
Hi is your :apple:Watch cellular? I have noticed making phone calls on my S5 cell. uses the battery more than not.
 
Nope. Wifi/GPS only. My only experience with a cellular smartwatch was my Samsung Gear S. I had to disable that feature and only use it for minutes at a time because leaving it on full-time would deplete its battery in like 2-3 hours tops. Forget Spotify or any apps on cellular.

Since that experience, I decided cellular smart watches aren't for me. I'm near wifi 90% the time I'm out and when I'm not, plenty of Apple Music and synced playlists are playable offline via BT headset.
 
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