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How longer will Apple make the cMBP?

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thekb

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My white MB is getting long in the tooth so I will need to replace it soon. There's no way I could live within a piddly 128 GB of storage space and it costs $500 more for the 512 GB drive and another $500 to go to 1TB. Holy cow! $1,000 to upgrade a retina screen from 128 to 1TB! You don't even get more RAM for that thousand bucks, just a little faster processor. How can that be justified?

I love Apple, but that's too rich for my blood. If they don't sell a computer with an upgradeable HD, I may have to consider slumming it again with Windows. So how much longer do you think they will make the classic MBP? I know refurbs should be available for at least another year or two after they stop selling them so I can delay the inevitable a few more years.
 
The longer you wait, the worse it will be relatively. A single external hard drive solves your storage problem.
 
You know you can get something like an SD card if you need more storage, right?

1TB PCIe storage is still quite expensive - and rightly so. 1TB SSDs are around $380 now, but those are SSDs and not PCIe storage.

cMBP's (I think the 13" is the only one left now) will probably be discontinued when the 15" and 13" MBPs get a redesign, probably next year.
 
The remaining 13" cMBPs will likely go away when Apple sufficiently exhausts through their back stock (the clock is ticking...). The trouble is that they're charging entirely too much for those 3-year old machines.... IMHO, they should be priced at $849 tops instead of $1,099.
 
I would definitely go for the 128 or 256 GB and buy a external HDD. In fact, I do have an internal HDD with a case to make it external and it works great (and it was cheaper because internal HDD are cheaper).

When I purchased my old mac (still using it because my new mac is on its way), I opted to order ir with 500GB instead of 250GB that it came as standard, but I found out that having most of my files that are important to me on the external HDD is better.

You should try that approach. You would be buying a better Mac and still have the HDD. You can also buy an SD card, I believe they are called Jetdrive, and leave it there (it fits the slot perfectly so you wouldn't notice it).
 
thekb said:
My white MB is getting long in the tooth so I will need to replace it soon. There's no way I could live within a piddly 128 GB of storage space and it costs $500 more for the 512 GB drive and another $500 to go to 1TB. Holy cow! $1,000 to upgrade a retina screen from 128 to 1TB! You don't even get more RAM for that thousand bucks, just a little faster processor. How can that be justified?

I love Apple, but that's too rich for my blood. If they don't sell a computer with an upgradeable HD, I may have to consider slumming it again with Windows. So how much longer do you think they will make the classic MBP? I know refurbs should be available for at least another year or two after they stop selling them so I can delay the inevitable a few more years.
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1TB internal SSDs are around $450, doesn't the cMBP take those? Or you go with a 128GB SSD and replace the optical drive with a big drive.
 
I doubt they are still in production. I suspect Apple are still exhausting overstock from two years ago.
 
mcarling said:
I doubt they are still in production. I suspect Apple are still exhausting overstock from two years ago.
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No, Apple is still making them. I know someone who bought a cMBP two months ago, and the serial number indicates a recent manufacture date.

In any case, that would've been a monumentally huge mistake on Apple's part to make three years + worth of excess inventory.
 
mcarling said:
I doubt they are still in production. I suspect Apple are still exhausting overstock from two years ago.
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They are - our schools are still buying them and they've got recent production dates on them if you check the serial number.

Contrast that with the Surface Pro I bought on fire sale from Microsoft direct. That was from the original production run and had been sat in a warehouse for 13 months...

Intel continue to make CPUs way after they've been replaced by the next big thing. The 486 had a lifespan of over 18 years for example as a lot of industrial systems used them. If you want it, they will make it - the older process equipment is all paid for so it's pure profit for Intel.
 
Non Retina 13" MBP

Is Apple killing the MacBook Pro non retina?

Will it get a update to the 2015 specs? Lets say, new Intel processors (not sure about Force Touch)
 
scaredpoet said:
No, Apple is still making them. I know someone who bought a cMBP two months ago, and the serial number indicates a recent manufacture date.
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MagicBoy said:
They are - our schools are still buying them and they've got recent production dates on them if you check the serial number.
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Thank you both. I accept your evidence that they are (or were recently) still in production.

scaredpoet said:
In any case, that would've been a monumentally huge mistake on Apple's part to make three years + worth of excess inventory.
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Probably. It would depend on how fast they are selling.

MagicBoy said:
Intel continue to make CPUs way after they've been replaced by the next big thing. The 486 had a lifespan of over 18 years for example as a lot of industrial systems used them. If you want it, they will make it - the older process equipment is all paid for so it's pure profit for Intel.
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Yes, I know that. I used to work for Intel.
 
The non-retinas are still excellent machines and :apple: sells them because people buy them for various reasons. I don't see them stop anytime soon.
 
Yes, it is *extremely* ridiculous that Apple is even offering their Macbook Pro line with a 128GB SSD. Honestly, no laptop in 2015 (or 2014, or 2013, or 2012, and I could probably go on), should be limited to 128GB.

Apple charges a premium for the unibody, the engineering, the name-brand, the screen, the keyboard/touchpad, etc. They charge for the experience. Part of the Apple experience is a feeling that your tech is rock solid. Not necessarily for every power-user, or the avid gamer, but for everyone else. That pitiful amount of storage isn't taking care of anyone... it's a weak link in the chain is what it is.
 
Why are people so defensive? It is reasonable to ask how much longer production will continue for a computer that hasn't been updated in three years.

PaulWog said:
Yes, it is *extremely* ridiculous that Apple is even offering their Macbook Pro line with a 128GB SSD. Honestly, no laptop in 2015 (or 2014, or 2013, or 2012, and I could probably go on), should be limited to 128GB.

Apple charges a premium for the unibody, the engineering, the name-brand, the screen, the keyboard/touchpad, etc. They charge for the experience. Part of the Apple experience is a feeling that your tech is rock solid. Not necessarily for every power-user, or the avid gamer, but for everyone else. That pitiful amount of storage isn't taking care of anyone... it's a weak link in the chain is what it is.
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Rubbish. My needs would be completely satisfied with a 128GB SSD. Yesterday I ordered a 2.8GHz mid-2015 15" MacBook Pro with 256GB and resent having to spend at least $100 more than I would have for a 128GB model that Apple sadly do not offer.
 
TurnerMartin said:
Is Apple killing the MacBook Pro non retina?

Will it get a update to the 2015 specs? Lets say, new Intel processors (not sure about Force Touch)
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They have been selling that specification for 3 years now, they will continue to sell it while people are still silly enough to pay that much for 3 year old tech or the parts to make it run out.

It will not be updated though it's just not a modern laptop anymore...
 
mcarling said:
I doubt they are still in production. I suspect Apple are still exhausting overstock from two years ago.
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I doubt very much that they've built so much cMBPs that they're still in stock 2 years later. Apple doesn't over produce products, if anything they're very conservative and would rather have the consumer wait for shipment.
 
z31fanatic said:
What's with all these anti cMBP threads today?
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We aren't anti cMBP, we are anti people paying that price for that old tech.

Being able to upgrade your HDD and RAM means nothing if your processor and graphics are so far out of date the computer doesn't do what you want and that may well be the case in just a couple of years for the cMBP now.

This is the reason that I can't in all good conscience recommend anyone pay apples price for them, the refurbs and second hand units are still a good deal if you can get one around £500-£600....
 
Nobody knows. I think the broader point is that Apple is moving from "everything replaceable and modular" to "everything is soldered to the board" as evident by just about every product release of the past few years. They'll probably kill the cMBP off eventually but the question is whether or not one should care and that, of course, is entirely subjective and thus perfect for MacRumors readers. Fight.
 
mcarling said:
Why are people so defensive? It is reasonable to ask how much longer production will continue for a computer that hasn't been updated in three years.


Rubbish. My needs would be completely satisfied with a 128GB SSD. Yesterday I ordered a 2.8GHz mid-2015 15" MacBook Pro with 256GB and resent having to spend at least $100 more than I would have for a 128GB model that Apple sadly do not offer.
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What do you use the rmbp15 for then, YouTube & Facebook only?! 512gb isn't enough on my rmbp15 when working with FCPX. Knowing Apple and what they do with 16gb on the iPhone & ipads, they would sell the rmbp 15 with 128gb at its current base price and then make everyone else who wants 256gb or more pay the extra $100. Apple's pricing has nothing to do with the reality with the fastest 256gb ssds going for around $100 and 1tb ssds going for <$400 retail which we know Apple doesn't pay that amount to their suppliers. Apple's storage pricing is so 2012.
 
magbarn said:
What do you use the rmbp15 for then, YouTube & Facebook only?! 512gb isn't enough on my rmbp15 when working with FCPX. Knowing Apple and what they do with 16gb on the iPhone & ipads, they would sell the rmbp 15 with 128gb at its current base price and then make everyone else who wants 256gb or more pay the extra $100. Apple's pricing has nothing to do with the reality with the fastest 256gb ssds going for around $100 and 1tb ssds going for <$400 retail which we know Apple doesn't pay that amount to their suppliers. Apple's storage pricing is so 2012.
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I rarely use Youtube or Facebook. I mostly use Safari, Mail, NeoOffice, Preview, FaceTime, iTunes, Calendar, iBooks, Google Earth, Maps, Calculator, and Image Capture.

I'm glad for you that Apple offer a 1TB option because I understand that some people need it. Why are you so hostile to people need only 128GB? It was not so long ago that Apple still offered the 11" MBA with only 64GB.
 
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