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How Many brothers do you have?

clayj said:
This is a discussion that ultimately will go nowhere and which can only end badly, methinks.

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Are they proposing to limit the number of male children that each woman can have, so as to limit the number of gay males? Or are they going to try to figure out exactly what combination of maternal biochemistry, genetics, and environment causes male children to become gay, so that they can either (1) learn to control womens' biochemistry and try to reduce the number of gay children or (2) try to INCREASE the number of gay children? Are we going to try to turn women into Tleilaxu-style birthing tanks, so that we can absolutely control how children turn out from a genetic and environmental standpoint?
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Good post, Clay. However, I would take issue with the idea that scientists necessarily have a desired outcome from a piece of research. You have to remember that a lot of their training leads them to perform experiments in the spirit of discovery, not necessarily trying to prove or engineer something. Politicians are a different matter, and the lobbying of special interest groups is what may lead to Huxley-esque outcomes as you mention above.
 
Strange thread but anyway I'm the eldest of the family. One younger brother.
 
Ugg said:
Are they all from the same parents?

I have one older brother, one younger one and a sister. I'm the gay one.
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Yeah - same parents.
Of the 13 children, 40-ish grandchildren, and 30-ish great-grandchildren, as far as I am aware there is one homosexual male and (I suspect) one homosexual female. Both grew up at a time when social tolerance for homosexuality was almost non-existent.
 
Ruled out social factors?

How on earth do you rule out social factors because you don't see it in step-brothers? Are we truly going to say that the average pair of step brothers have the same relationship as the average pair of biological brothers?

This is an old association. If it's true, I think it's more social than biological, though it is interesting to think of it as biodiversity control (limiting the descendents of one woman).

I always teach that there are two components to determining orientation - physical attraction and emotional attraction. Your gay men are generally those who lean toward men in both areas. (Those who only lean toward men in one area being more likely to "choose" to live an easier straight life.)

Anywho - I think it's a matter of having older brothers (or fathers, for that matter) whose love you want but don't receive that makes a guy more likely to need the love of another man. I have to chuck this one to environment.

Physical attraction - definitely biological, though.
 
I have a sister.

I have known some Gay guys that were younger than their brothers. So I believe that it can be both biological and socially based on being Gay.

Some of the guys i have known with older brothers fit one of two situations. One in which sexual exploration was "accepted" between them, or never explored.

In the end I believe that there are times that being Gay is biologically driven, and other times driven by social "needs". Those that are driven by the social needs aspect can pick and choose. For some, like myself, are drawn more to the biological side of the debate.
 
w_parietti22 said:
2 older brothers and I'm not gay.
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Sorry, but according the research you are and there's no point arguing because they are doctors and know best. Now hurry up and get out that closet. You'll need the space for all your fabulous new clothes :D
 
None.

This is total rubbish. Correlations are not in any way proven to have definative relationships with causation. It proves nothing, implies nothing, and doesn't even present a single scientific thesis worth pursuing. It would be just as accurate to say that there is an equally greater % of, gay men : straight men, who have jack russel terriers, therefore ownership of that breed dogs is a good determining factor for who might be gay.

This practice falls under the phrase: post hoc ergo proctor hoc. I am dismayed to find it applied in any area of science, but particularly so in this case.

GIGO
 
I have 4 brothers, all younger, and an older sister. We're all 18 months apart, and no one is gay...
 
Peyton said:
I have 4 brothers, all younger, and an older sister. We're all 18 months apart, and no one is gay...
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You are 20 and your 4 brother are all younger. You need to wait a little while before you are sure. :D
 
dynamicv said:
Sorry, but according the research you are and there's no point arguing because they are doctors and know best. Now hurry up and get out that closet. You'll need the space for all your fabulous new clothes :D
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what if I already have fabulous clothes? :eek:

:p
 
No brothers, no sisters :D WHich means all love and money my parents spend on maintaining only one child :D:D:D
 
I got 2 older brothers and 1 younger one... I'm not gay but I don't know about the youngest. He's a little freak even though hes only 13.
 
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