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I am tempted to pull the trigger on a mid '13 11 inch Air, because it would complement my workflow nicely, but I am also cautious because Broadwell and IGZO could mean so many things...

I currently have a mid 2012 rMBP 15", but even if feels extremely hefty for carrying from place to place. Plus, I probably don't need such an elaborate setup whilst traveling. Thus, the 11".

What are your thoughts?
 
Definitely sitting out till 2014 hoping for a 12" super thin Air with IGZO screen. My 2010 13 Air is plenty good till then.
 
I currently have a maxed out mid 2012 11" and I think I'll be getting the 2014 model mainly because of the much better battery life and I want a better GPU to game.
 
I am completely happy with my 2013 11" i7/8gb/512gb MBA. It replaced a 2011 13" i5/4gb/256gb MBA and was a nice upgrade in every way: faster, smaller, better battery, USB3, more RAM, bigger/faster SSD.

It's all I need right now for a main computer, I use it at home with a big screen and external keyboard. I don't know if I would pull the trigger today on a 2013 model, it would completely depend on circumstances.

My 2011 MBA was meeting my needs, but a friend needed a new laptop so I helped her out by selling it very cheaply and it gave me a good excuse to get a better machine. :)

If that hadn't happened, I might very well have waited until 2014.
 
this will depends solely on the performance of broadwell igp

if its nothing drastic...sticking to 2 year cycles of upgrades
 
I just purchased my MBA i7/256GB/8GB which replaced my mid 2012 MBP 15" and I'm VERY happy with it. It's a snappy laptop that does everything I need it to do and more.

You could wait for next year's model or when that arrives decide to wait for the 2015 model and when that arrives...

If the 2013 suits your computer needs then buy it. You won't be disappointed.
 
I am tempted to pull the trigger on a mid '13 11 inch Air, because it would complement my workflow nicely, but I am also cautious because Broadwell and IGZO could mean so many things...

I currently have a mid 2012 rMBP 15", but even if feels extremely hefty for carrying from place to place. Plus, I probably don't need such an elaborate setup whilst traveling. Thus, the 11".

What are your thoughts?
same case, i am planning to buy MBA since couple years
2011 -> UBS 2.0, UBS 3.0 was coming
2012 -> Haswell coming
2013 -> if 2014 rumors were confirmed, it really depends:
- if battery life increasing more?
- new design, i like actually the current design, rumors announced next MBA will switch to similar design as iPad Air which i dont really appreciate, to be honest
- Retina display? unnecessary if you asked me, would rather boost up battery life again
- i dont really care about hardware specs, current hardware specs cover all my needs. however, i wont say no if Apple offered 16 GB as RAM option.
 
same case, i am planning to buy MBA since couple years
2011 -> UBS 2.0, UBS 3.0 was coming
2012 -> Haswell coming
2013 -> if 2014 rumors were confirmed, it really depends:
- if battery life increasing more?
- new design, i like actually the current design, rumors announced next MBA will switch to similar design as iPad Air which i dont really appreciate, to be honest
- Retina display? unnecessary if you asked me, would rather boost up battery life again
- i dont really care about hardware specs, current hardware specs cover all my needs. however, i wont say no if Apple offered 16 GB as RAM option.

Many people say a Retina display is unnecessary on an Air, but we have to remember two things - 1) Apple is moving to all-Retina and 2) the Air already has an outdated screen, even for being non-Retina.
 
Happy with my systems for the next few years.
Im breaking out of this yearly upgrade cycle. As long as my systems do what I need from them, then I'll continue to run them and no longer buy into the marketing hype.
 
Many people say a Retina display is unnecessary on an Air, but we have to remember two things - 1) Apple is moving to all-Retina and 2) the Air already has an outdated screen, even for being non-Retina.

I don't mind a retina screen as long as it doesn't hurt batter life too much.

I'd also love to see a SIM card slot.
 
I am tempted to pull the trigger on a mid '13 11 inch Air, because it would complement my workflow nicely, but I am also cautious because Broadwell and IGZO could mean so many things...

I currently have a mid 2012 rMBP 15", but even if feels extremely hefty for carrying from place to place. Plus, I probably don't need such an elaborate setup whilst traveling. Thus, the 11".

What are your thoughts?
I think waiting is very wise, the upcoming improvements will be well worth it.
 
I was going to pull the trigger on a 13" rMBP in January, but these rumors about a thinner and lighter MBA have given me some doubts...
 
I'm on the scumbag upgrade program, buy from someone who offers accidental protection, wait for the new model, break your laptop in such a way that it is not cost effective to repair, reap the rewards.
 
I was going to pull the trigger on a 13" rMBP in January, but these rumors about a thinner and lighter MBA have given me some doubts...

Depends if you really wanted a rMBP in the first place. A 12" rMBA sounds nice, but I would still take the 13" rMBP over it every single time.
 
I see Apple:

Dropping 11" and 13" Air's.

Adding 12" w/ Retina and keeping same thinness / lightness. It won't have as good internals as the 13" rMBP.

If there is a true 12", there will be no point in a 11.6", and there won't really be a point in the 13" when you can just pay a little more and get the MBP Retina.

Then again, it kind of sounds silly to eliminate the 13" Air!
 
I'm on the scumbag upgrade program, buy from someone who offers accidental protection, wait for the new model, break your laptop in such a way that it is not cost effective to repair, reap the rewards.

Awesome! I wish there were more people like you.

Just imagine what we could do as a society..

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I see Apple:

Dropping 11" and 13" Air's.

Adding 12" w/ Retina and keeping same thinness / lightness. It won't have as good internals as the 13" rMBP.

If there is a true 12", there will be no point in a 11.6", and there won't really be a point in the 13" when you can just pay a little more and get the MBP Retina.

Then again, it kind of sounds silly to eliminate the 13" Air!

Apple doesn't drop products immediately because of overlap. Nor are more advanced products cheaper. They need the current models as entry level machines (at least for a little while).
 
I see Apple:

Dropping 11" and 13" Air's.

Adding 12" w/ Retina and keeping same thinness / lightness. It won't have as good internals as the 13" rMBP.

If there is a true 12", there will be no point in a 11.6", and there won't really be a point in the 13" when you can just pay a little more and get the MBP Retina.

Then again, it kind of sounds silly to eliminate the 13" Air!

Well you said it yourself, it would be hard to differentiate a the 13-inch models of the Air and Pro. Offering just a 12" model on the Air line would solve this problem.
 
Many people say a Retina display is unnecessary on an Air, but we have to remember two things - 1) Apple is moving to all-Retina and 2) the Air already has an outdated screen, even for being non-Retina.
Haswell delivered an incredible battery life for MBA when any other products including MBP Retina as well, do reach barely an half of their battery life score
personnaly, Sony Vaio Pro got caught my eyes as well but its battery life really sucks if you compare to MBA on Haswell.
Yes Mac OS seems to be a better optimized system but full HD / Retina screen would drain much more battery than a crap TN and standard resolution
as i said, Retina is unnecessary unless they will optimize battery life in order to get same battery life as Haswell's MBA
 
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