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With my Mac Mini (bought March~ 2004) only to install Tiger (and ti wasn't a clean install, just an upgrade). However, I'm pretty sure I will do clean install when Leopard gets to my hands.

My beige PowerMac G3 was another story, it was 233 Ghz, I think the OS was reinstalled a couple of times, it only had a 6 Gb HD, so it was really slow. I got it to run 9.2.2 though.
 
Thrice here.

First, when I sold my Lombard.
Second, when I sold my PB.
Third, when I sold my PM.

So I guess I have never had to reinstall an OS other than when I sell a machine.
 
When I bought Adobe CS2 (full suite not upgrade) I did a full erase and install because I had CS on my Powerbook and wanted to make sure it was completely and safely removed first. For me this is common practice if I'm installing something like this, though not very often.
 
Only ever upgraded on my PB; never had to reinstall... that's 2 years now on that machine. My Beige G3 is a different story... I now have to reinstall 10.2.8, since it stopped booting up in OSX and will only boot up in OS9. Trying to get my Beige G3 to boot off the CD is a freakin' nightmare... and it usually involves mantras, burning incense, and heavy use of my mala beads to get the job done. :confused:
 
I've re-installed OSX on my PB twice- both times I had seriously screwed things up learning about the FreeBSD subsystem (first time I was trying to get GNOME to run, second time was a fluke). My older PB (G4 400Mhz) and PM (G4 400Mhz) have never been reinstalled (only upgraded), going on 5 years + on those. My iMac is only 5 months old, but it has never been turned off (exept when I moved), only goes to sleep when I do.
 
When I went from Jaguar to Tiger - I did a clean install to avoid problems.

But reinstall - never. :D

Quite refreshing, having come from a Windows world prior.
 
I have two macs and used them at work. Never had to re-install. I don't consider going from 10.3 to 10.4 a re-install. Same for upgrading Win 2000 to XP, unless of course 2000 was pooched.:D

How many times do you need to re-install the firmware in your car's engine computer? your radio? your dashboard? ...
To think that OS's need to be reinstalled means society is digressing!
 
There was that time I wasn't paying attention and did a stupid rm -rf * on some important directory (something like /usr/bin :rolleyes: ). All I had to do was reinstall the basic system guts, so it wasn't too bad. But it was dumb since I knew what the consequences were for careless rm mistakes.

I've deleted a bunch of normally invisible OS X files/directories from OS 9, where they were visible, which resulted in a seriously hosed OS X system. This was when I was using OS 9 full time, and OS X 10.0 was brand new and I knew absolutely nothing about its new system guts.

I can't remember if I've had to reinstall any classic Mac OSs. I'm pretty sure I've never reinstalled because of complete system failure; it was most likely my own hardcore system tinkering or erasing of an old HD that would have resulted in reinstallation.
 
I got my iMac G4 in Feb. '03 with Jaguar installed. I've never reinstalled the OS and I've done simple upgrade installations to Panther and then to Tiger. Over in the Apple Discussions it seems like there is a segment of users who advocate Archive and Installs and some who even advocate Erase and Installs. I've had good success using the simple upgrade and I really think it should be the first thing you try if your system is otherwise in good health.

On the other had, I remember doing a few clean installs on my original Bondi 233 iMac when I was using OS 8.5 or so. Seems like I ran into a bunch of extension conflicts during some repeated attempts to install Shockwave player. Extension conflicts were a big pain back then!
 
I've reinstalled my OS three times...BUT...and a big but indeed (no pun intended) I did it because well...let's just say I was curious. I didn't reinstall because there was anything wrong with the system...just wanted to see how it compared with my craptacular Windows XP installation...OS X kills it...hands down.
 
dmetzcher said:
I've only been using the platform since April, but I would never believe anyone who would say that you NEVER have to reinstall Mac OS X. There are going to problems, that will, for whatever reason, require a reinstall for someone, somewhere. Anyone who says that their OS will never have to be reinstalled either hasn't had to do it, or is fibbing to you. ;)

That has to be the most erroneous statement I've ever read on Macrumors. Mac OS X is an amazing stable platform; I have had no reinstalls whatsoever, and I'm not lying. The only thing I have to do is upgrade as Apple releases new OS's.
 
sethypoo said:
That has to be the most erroneous statement I've ever read on Macrumors. Mac OS X is an amazing stable platform; I have had no reinstalls whatsoever, and I'm not lying. The only thing I have to do is upgrade as Apple releases new OS's.

Yep, me as well - no OS reinstalls here either. dmetxcher must indeed be new to the Mac universe. ;) But it's a good thing, and welcome to you - I know your experience will be a good one. And in time, you'll see what we mean. :cool:
 
Originally Posted by dmetzcher
I've only been using the platform since April, but I would never believe anyone who would say that you NEVER have to reinstall Mac OS X. There are going to problems, that will, for whatever reason, require a reinstall for someone, somewhere. Anyone who says that their OS will never have to be reinstalled either hasn't had to do it, or is fibbing to you.
sethypoo said:
That has to be the most erroneous statement I've ever read on Macrumors. Mac OS X is an amazing stable platform; I have had no reinstalls whatsoever, and I'm not lying. The only thing I have to do is upgrade as Apple releases new OS's.
I think the longer one uses OS X, the more they'll truly be amazed at its stability. I'm sure for those who are just breaking in, it sounds unbelievable to hear there are those who've not ever had to reinstall an OS. The only reason I had to do an archive/install with Jaguar was related to a 220 power mishap in the Peruvian Amazon. But from 10.1 through 10.3.9, that's the only episode. I've loved Panther and will move on to Tiger over the holidays with the utmost confidence that it's the finest OS on the planet.
 
I reinstalled Jaguar once. My dad had been involved with the system, and although no major problems had occured, I wanted to be sure to know what type of file or 3rd party extension had been put in the system. So I reinstalled the system, and this time, I made it the way I liked.
 
Actually, while the lack of anything but a rare need to reinstall OS X is a good thing for OS X users, it doesn't make OS X stand out all that much. It just points out the crapticity of Windows if the various Windows OS's have tended to need that just to keep working over time.

Everything that's been said here of MacOS X is pretty much equally true of MacOS 9, MacOS 8, System 7, System 6, umm, and back before that you're mainly back in the world of booting from floppy disk.

a) System 6 and the first iteration of System 7 were still freeware to Mac users. Schools with Mac computer labs would take the installation diskettes to one Mac, install the OS, tweak the settings, add/remove fonts and disk accessories (remember those?), set up the default printer and AppleTalk configurations, and then copy the resultant System Folder to an external SCSI device (or put it on a System 6 file server, System 6 did have file sharing but it monopolized the machine to deploy it). Every other Mac in the Mac lab would acquire their copy of that System Folder via plain-old drag-n-drop Finder copy to their hard drives. Then the students would be sold or (depending on school budget) given floppies wtih the new OS on them, and/or would copy the System Folder from the hard drive to their floppies. Then they would copy it to their dorm or home Macs if they had them. And let their friends make copies. And when they wanted to create a new bootable volume (same machine or different machine) they would make copies. So not only did any single Mac hardly ever need a reinstall of the OS, a single install of the OS would often be deployed on thousands of machines, gradually diverging as people added or subtracted custom fonts and disk accessories, printer drivers, and custom INITs (extensions) and cDevs (control panels). If you had posted the queston of the OP to folks from this era, I don't think many of them would have even understood the question. "Reinstall? Huh?" Probably fewer than one Mac user in 100 had ever even seen the Mac System being installed from virgin installation media and just assumed every system version migrated from floppy copy to floppy copy, moving from Cupertino to all points of the globe.

b) During the era between the intro of System 7 and the debut of the Power Macintosh, two things happened: you had to pay for the Macintosh operating system (although it would of course be bundled with your new Mac when you bought one), and, as hard drives became ubiquitous and large, the default contents of the System Folder sprawled out from ~5 megabytes to several hundred MB. As a consequence, far more people did their original system install from installation media. Still, for any given person, it was typical that to create a new bootable volume you would copy your existing System Folder to the new volume. Given the plethora of 3rd-party extensions and control panels, and the wide ranger of user preferences, it was just so much more convenient than installing from scratch and copying in all that chazarai. So again, a single installation from installation media would often suffice for several bootable volumes, so the final ratio of installations & reinstallations / # of bootable volumes would still generally be considerably less than 1.

c) The late System 7 era (the Power Mac era) coincided with the popularity of the Zip disk, and MacOS 8-9 with the dawn of the era of the cd-burner, so if anything the tendency of Mac owners to make easy copies of their post-customization System Folders and deploy them again elsewhere grew, rather than shrank, especially among the decently tech-savvy, those most likely to own (or be responsible for) more than one Mac. On the other hand, the OS had by this time finally become cumbersome and complicated (athough still elegant and simple by comparison to MSDOS, let alone Windows or Unix), so folks were probably more inclined to nuke their System Folders than to trouble-shoot weird errors and conflicts than they were in the smaller-system days. Depending on whether you consider booting from a Zip or CDROM and replacing the hard disk's System Folder in its entirety via Finder copy as "reinstalling", you could consider the ration of (re)installs to bootable volumes to have gone up in this era, or not. I'd say you'd get a number less than 2 over the lifetime of any full-numbered operating system (MacOS 8, MacOS 9) on any given machine no matter how you counted it though.

All throughout the pre-MacOS X days, we Mac users would hear PC users talk about reinstalling their operating systems every 6 months or annually or whatever to cure some kind of weird PC falloff in performance, and we'd laugh at them and say "Get a Mac".

It's not a new thing with OS X that we're free from that.
 
I have never had to re-install my OS however I have done it twice, an archive and install and a clean install both 10.4. Never had to with OS 7 to 9 either
 
Why do you suppose the posters over at Apple Discussions talk a lot more frequently about recommending and doing reinstalls? I've never been able to figure that out myself. I've just discovered your forums over here fairly recently, in fact it was during the recent "revamping" of Apple Discussions.
 
sgmorr said:
Why do you suppose the posters over at Apple Discussions talk a lot more frequently about recommending and doing reinstalls? I've never been able to figure that out myself. I've just discovered your forums over here fairly recently, in fact it was during the recent "revamping" of Apple Discussions.
Because most people go the the apple forums when they have a problem, people mostly go here to "hang out"
 
Switched in March 05 had not had to reinstall once. The same cant be said for the PC I switched from running XP. It seems like I had to reinstall at least once a month
 
sgmorr said:
Why do you suppose the posters over at Apple Discussions talk a lot more frequently about recommending and doing reinstalls? I've never been able to figure that out myself. I've just discovered your forums over here fairly recently, in fact it was during the recent "revamping" of Apple Discussions.
There are Category Threads in AD which are designed for posters who have experienced difficulties with an installation, and I think it's a fair statement that many who post there do so for that reason. The question posed in this thread is "how many times have you had to reinstall your OS?".
 
I've never reinstalled OS X on my iBook. I probably will someday though, just not anytime soon. On Windows however it seems to be an every two month thing.
 
I switched just over a yr ago and had to re-install Panther once. Apparently, this one item's a common-enough occurence that Apple posted an item about it. (And I swear I didn't delete anything on my own! Maybe related to a bad logic board I had?)

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25704

Not complaining though...much better than my experience in the Windows world!

Now on 10.4.3. Other than having to reinstall this one time, I've had zero problems with the OS.

Frank
 
My Summer 2001 iMac G3 has had one reinstallation, and that was when I replaced the internal hard drive.

Not at all bad - 4 years of constant use (it acts as a firewall/router to my wireless LAN) and not a single reformat/reinstall due to malfunction. I fitted the new hard disk when 10.3 was released. Up until then, the system had Mac OS 9.2.2 and had upgraded all the way up from 10.0.3 without a hitch.

Now it's gone from 10.3.0 up to 10.4.3, again without any problems. That Mac's running better today than the day it was purchased, purely because the OS has got better and better. That's value for money.

My Mac Mini's not yet been reformatted since I got it in March.

I could never imagine doing a complete reformat for any reason other than a hard disk replacement. I've only ever done an Archive & Install when upgrading major versions of the OS, and should OS X ever manage to screw itself up to the point of needing a reinstall, an Archive & Install is all I'll need.
 
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