How many years til macbook's get dedicated graphics?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by anotherarunan, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. anotherarunan macrumors 6502

    Sep 18, 2007
    London, United Kingdom (UK)
    Before people assume Im just another "buy now or wait?" person, Im not. I have no plans to buy any apple computer in the next 2 years. Its just out of curiousity that i ask, will consumer trends eventually make a macbook with a dedicated graphics chip essential in the future? I.e is it part of the progression trend with macbooks, or will apple always use this as a major seperating point between the MB and MBP. Because surely MBs cant have integrated graphics in like, 3 years time can they? :confused:
  2. Jiddick ExRex macrumors 65816

    Jiddick ExRex

    May 14, 2006
    Roskilde, DK
    If integrated graphics keep climbing in performance (and drivers are updated and developed BEFORE the hardware is launched *poke :apple: poke*) I don't see why not for at least 3 years.

    The MacBook sells like hot butter and it's for a market who only uses it for very little or no gaming at all.
  3. tersono macrumors 68000


    Jan 18, 2005
    The lower end of the market remains keen on integrated graphics as a way of reducing costs. I don't see that changing in the near future.
  4. arnette macrumors 6502


    Nov 22, 2002
    Manhattan Beach
    More like, 'when are MBP going to start having integrated graphics chips'.

    I would not be surprised if in 5 years notebook computers no longer had separate graphic cards but had the motherboard do it all. Just different grades of performance. Isn't that a trend from Intel with the Santa Rosa platform and the following, unreleased platform?

    Cuts down on power consumption, shrinks the innards, reduces heat, etc. Desktops = no way. But I would imagine integrated graphics getting better and better in notebooks.

    That all being said, Macbooks won't see huge boosts. Ever. NOT a gaming or rendering platform. Squarely aimed at the iTunes, iPhoto, email, Word, Excel, iMovie bunch. And fair enough, that's probably 90% of the notebook market.

    EDIT: Damn. This is pretty much an inefficient wording of what ExRex said above.
  5. slipper macrumors 68000


    Nov 19, 2003
    I highly doubt they will ever get a dedicated graphics processor. The iBooks that they have replaced had a dedicated graphics processor and they have since downgraded when Apple switched to the Macbooks. Thats the main difference between the Macbook anbd Macbook Pro.
  6. gotzero macrumors 68040

    Jan 6, 2007
    Mid-Atlantic, US
    This is a reason to get users to upgrade to the MBP.

    I have a MBP, MB, and Mini, and while I do not do anything "graphics intensive", I can never even tell the difference. It would be nice if the other computers could run a 30", but that will come with time with integrated graphics...
  7. Crow47 macrumors member

    Feb 6, 2008
    I just wish they could put something like an 8400m into the macbooks. That'd be reasonably powerful but it'd still give the MBP a far enough performance gap to warrant buying one.
  8. rsm5068 macrumors regular

    Jan 21, 2008
    the approximation of that date could be expressed as turning an "8" 90 degrees to either side.
  9. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    It won't be happening anytime soon if it ever does.
  10. aethelbert macrumors 601

    Jun 1, 2007
    Chicago, IL, USA
    It doesn't need dedicated graphics. It never will.
  11. DCSMAC macrumors member

    Aug 19, 2005
    i think its more of a question of "when will energy saving CPUs with integrated graphics become powerful enough to eliminate the need for a battery sapping discrete GPU"

    probably like 5 years.
  12. heatmiser macrumors 68020

    Dec 6, 2007
    There isn't a need for a discrete card except when laptops without discrete cards are compared to those that have them. It's like asking when the Macbook Pro will get a high-end desktop graphics card, and bemoaning how you just can't find one on an MBP. The MBP isn't built for that market any more than the MB is built for the dedicated card market. Accept that the MB will never have graphics capabilities equal to those of the MBP, much as you've already accepted that the MBP will never have graphics cards equivalent to those found in similarly priced performance desktops.
  13. Cromulent macrumors 603


    Oct 2, 2006
    The Land of Hope and Glory
    Probably never. Having a dedicated graphics card is the main distinguishing feature of the MacBook Pro. If Apple remove that they have shot themselves in the foot.
  14. iW00t macrumors 68040


    Nov 7, 2006
    Defenders of Apple Guild
    To correct this analogy, hot butter does not sell very well at all. It is running and causes your arteries to taken, eew!
  15. kresh macrumors 6502a


    That is the answer!
  16. spaceballl macrumors 68030


    Nov 2, 2003
    San Francisco, CA
    here's an answer - never

    intel's integrated graphics are "good enough" and will continue to evolve into better "good enough" products for years to come. Apple knows that if you want a nice graphics chip, you'll pay for it :)
  17. xraydoc macrumors demi-god


    Oct 9, 2005
    The iBooks had no choice but to use a dedicated graphics chip - there's no such thing as a G4 system with an integrated graphics controller.

    That said, the GMA950 and the current X3100 are faster than anything ever put in an iBook anyway.

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