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How much actual space on 256/512GB rMBP?
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Hi. Have you been injured by Apple falsely overestimating the storage capacity of it's computers? Has this cost you productivity on your job, or lead to great mental anguish and uncertainty?
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Phew! ... thank you, thank you, thank you
I always get teased, because I read the fine print, disclaimers, EULA's, TOS, Privacy Policies, and related boilerplate, on _everything_ that contains that type of drivel...ha..ha..ha...
Now that I know you do, I don't feel so odd.
Did you even read my post above? Even if you count 1 GB as 1 billion bytes and count the unformatted capacity of these drives, it still falls way short of the advertised capacity. These are 250/500/750 GB drives, not 256/512/768 GB drives. Apple takes the 6 GB/12 GB/18 GB extra for overprovisioning (which does NOT count as formatting) even though no other SSD on the market does this. Sandforce SSDs, for example, are advertised with their true capacity (240/480/720 GB) when extra is taken for overprovisioning.
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Have you ever been a complete smartass?
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Phew! ... thank you, thank you, thank you
I always get teased, because I read the fine print, disclaimers, EULA's, TOS, Privacy Policies, and related boilerplate, on _everything_ that contains that type of drivel...ha..ha..ha...
Now that I know you do, I don't feel so odd.
Apple's fine print does not account for the large discrepancy between advertised capacity and actual capacity, even when you count 1 GB as 1 billion bytes. We're talking about unformatted capacity, so the "actual formatted capacity may be less" statement is irrelevant.
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Yes, actually, I did read your post. In it, you specifically said, amongst other things, that you didn't see where they had a disclaimer about the formatted capacity of the drive being less. I simply pointed out that the disclaimer was there. I understand that you have other issues, but you did bring up that you didn't see the disclaimer. Not sure how my pointing it out is something to get annoyed about...
Sorry for misunderstanding your intentions, someone already pointed out the disclaimer though.
Yeah, actually it was me that pointed it out the first time. You already commented on it several days ago, then commented on it again today.
Well pointing out the disclaimer takes away from the point that these drives are being shipped with fewer bytes than advertised. Most people don't seem to understand that A) unformatted capacity should absolutely match the advertised capacity, and B) formatting itself will never account for more than a few hundred MB (maybe 1GB if you count the recovery partition as part of formatting).
You're post itself isn't much of an issue since you were responding to the one guy. But others latch onto that statement as definitive proof that we weren't sold short.
I understand that...but this pointed out and discussed 10 days ago. tninety just went back too far and re-replied to my post. It's no big deal. Let's just let it go...
Not yet, but I keep working at it!
I'm just expecting to see some sort of bogus class action being brought against Apple for this.
what is IN there?
What I don't understand is what is being used when fresh out of the box. My 2.6/16/256GB showed 29.5GB used after I just first booted it up. I know that what the sleep image takes up SOME space, but it is really 16GB of the RAM footprint?
Historically, there was a whole bunch of things like office for mac trial, and other stuff but now it just seems like a lot of other.
What I don't understand is what is being used when fresh out of the box. My 2.6/16/256GB showed 29.5GB used after I just first booted it up. I know that what the sleep image takes up SOME space, but it is really 16GB of the RAM footprint?
Historically, there was a whole bunch of things like office for mac trial, and other stuff but now it just seems like a lot of other.
Apple isn's going to start explaining what over-provisioning is to regular consumers. It will only confuse them.
The SSDs are 256/512/768GB in total NAND capacity. I'm not surprised Apple doesn't allocate more space for spare.
That said, for the 768GB SSD, the actual capacity is 750GB:
The SSDs are 256/512/768GB in total NAND capacity. I'm not surprised Apple doesn't allocate more space for spare.
That said, for the 768GB SSD, the actual capacity is 750GB:
Apple isn's going to start explaining what over-provisioning is to regular consumers. It will only confuse them.
The SSDs are 256/512/768GB in total NAND capacity. I'm not surprised Apple doesn't allocate more space for spare.
That said, for the 768GB SSD, the actual capacity is 750GB:
Then Apple shouldn't market the SSD with the overprovisioning space. Apple doesn't ever need to explain overprovisioning; in fact, they have less need to explain it if they would just advertise the drives properly.
512 GiB of total NAND is present on all 480 GB SandForce SSDs, but they aren't ever advertised as 512 GB SSDs.
Apple's 768 GB SSD is a 750 GB SSD, and Apple labeling it otherwise makes everything even more confusing.