I had a feeling you would say you had a Pro or could of easily bought one. I was right. How original.
There is a huge performance upgrade between the 2. No point arguing. Enjoy your entry level Macbook and I will enjoy my Pro.
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How Much Better is the Pro?
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I had a feeling you would say you had a Pro or could of easily bought one. I was right. How original.
There is a huge performance upgrade between the 2. No point arguing. Enjoy your entry level Macbook and I will enjoy my Pro.
MacJenn I agree. I saw the deal you are talking about from MacMall and MacConnection. I'm going to be getting the new Macbook Pro in January. It is clearly a better choice for just $150 more than the new 2.4 Macbook. It weighs only 1.5 pounds more and a little bigger. So what? It is plenty portable and if you can't lug 1.5 pounds more then something is wrong. I can't believe you can get so much more computer for $150 more. I'm glad I waited.
If you read my original post, I clearly stated that I owned both models (MBP first). I'm not going to post after this, but there is NOT a huge performance difference between the two models. It's simple a matter of fact. If you truly believe otherwise, then go to the Apple website and show me a performance difference other than the 9600 between the top MB and the low MBP...
The screen quality/size, video card, and available ports may all be justifiable selling points, but they do not translate into substantially faster computing performance. If you received a good deal on the MBP, good job, but that still doesn't change the brute facts.
In the end, the best computer is the one that sufficiently meets all your needs for the lowest possible price (this includes more than just computing performance). When you say that MBs are 'crapbooks', and you refer to them all as low-level machines, that really conveys an undeserved sense of entitlement. You would fit well in academia (save for your lack of basic reasoning).
Don't bother with the 2.4GHz model. It's as much of a rip off as the Pros are. The 2.0GHz is marginally slower and is $300 cheaper. I know what's more important to me.
This is true. They aren't even marginally faster than the Penryn MBPs of the previous generation. Not to mention they have worse battery life.
The sad part is that you have to spring for the 2.4 GHz to get the backlit keyboard. Personally, it's worth grabbing the Pro for just that reason.
bicker bicker bicker......
I own a 2007 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB 5400 RPM HD, 8600M, LED Backlit 15"
....and I just received my 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB 5400 RPM, 9400M, LED Backlit 13" MacBook Aluminum.....
Long story short, this thing outperforms my 07 MBP in overall usage (Obviously not gaming), but is definitely snappier in every other sense. Less than a year ago people were bragging about how beastly my MBP was, today, im using something a little bit faster overall, in a more portable package. Crapbook? I think not. Don't force your view on others MacJenn. It didnt fit your bill, doesnt mean it doesnt fit someone elses. Thats the point of having options and different models. To cater to different needs, so for my needs I technically have a new smelling macbook pro, in a thinner, lighter, better built package. Which is a dream for me. ExpressCards / FireWire are not needed for me.
I own a 2007 MacBook Pro 2.4GHz, 2GB RAM, 160GB 5400 RPM HD, 8600M, LED Backlit 15"
....and I just received my 2.4GHz, 4GB RAM, 250GB 5400 RPM, 9400M, LED Backlit 13" MacBook Aluminum.....
Long story short, this thing outperforms my 07 MBP in overall usage (Obviously not gaming), but is definitely snappier in every other sense. Less than a year ago people were bragging about how beastly my MBP was, today, im using something a little bit faster overall, in a more portable package. Crapbook? I think not. Don't force your view on others MacJenn. It didnt fit your bill, doesnt mean it doesnt fit someone elses. Thats the point of having options and different models. To cater to different needs, so for my needs I technically have a new smelling macbook pro, in a thinner, lighter, better built package. Which is a dream for me. ExpressCards / FireWire are not needed for me.
Don't tell me how to post. Last time I checked you don't own this board nor do you moderate it.
Nice spin though. I compared the NEW Macbook Pro to the NEW regular, entry level Macbook. For $150 more someone can buy the new Macbook Pro compared to the new entry level 2.4 Macbook. It is a no brainer to me. I would hate myself if I spent $1599 on a reg Macbook when I could of spent $150 more for the much better machine. Always the excuse of reg Macbook owners is: I could of bought the Pro, but......... Then make it sound like the reg Macbook is as good. OK LOL
I wanted people to be aware of the small price difference. If you don't like my opinions feel free to use the ignore button.
Spin? Its quite logical actually. You're rather rude no offense, stop trying to sound superior when you're not. People spend money how they wish, after all its their money. Nobody is bashing your opinion, but you're bashing theirs. Everyone has preferences like I said, and my preference is to use a more portable powerhouse, than a gawdy one as I take it everywhere. For my personal needs, spending "$150" more for a MBP would be a cruddy investment since size & weight are an important factor (The new MBP is wider and heavier than my 07 MBP which in my opinion is a DOWNGRADE).....
You are the one to talk about arrogant and rude. You called me out and your post history is one full of attacks also. I have a strong opinion, but I don't tell people how to post like you did. Who made you God?
It is funny you say the new Macbook is better built than the new Macbook Pro when they are built the same (see your above post). No need to lie to make yours look better. Superior? Nope, but the fact is you are wrong.
BTW I don't believe you had a Pro. Everyone who has the new alu macbook says that and says they downgraded from it. BS if you ask me for most people to make themselves feel better.
LOL, my post history is far from full of attacks...if you saw who my conversations were with its clear that the other individual was equally firm on his stance in the topic. I was referring to the 07 MBP in regard to build quality. Sheesh read first.
Secondly, You say "I Dont tell people how to post like you did." Well I have a statement for you as well....Dont tell people how to spend their money and refer to their purchases as "crapbooks." Get over it really....even your sig shows how much you despise the MacBook, you dont need to regurgitate it. According to you the new aluminum macbook is a crapbook, yet you miss your "blackbook" you dont find that even a little bit funny?
LOL You are telling people what to buy anytime you give an opinion in threads asking questions like : 2.4 or 2.0, Macbook or Macbook Pro, Applesac or MacCase, etc.. Give me a break. You do attack a lot. I have read many of your posts. Unhelpful for the most part, but I'm sure you will say the same of mine.
Once again if you don't like my opinions use the ignore button. It isn't that hard to figure out and if you need help I will tell you how to do it.
I give my opinion on cases and models....but I dont call someone an idiot for buying one over the other. The point of "vs" threads is for people to get feedback and opinions on products, without bashing them. Looking down upon people who buy one over another is a totally different thing.
Im talking normally here and you are clearly on the defense. Just let it go, your MacBook Pro is God, the MacBook sucks...lets go get lunch and I'll tell you you're an idiot for ordering a turkey bacon bravo at panera
(I enjoy the TBB btw)
I use a 16 core Mac Pro running on a generator as my portable solution.
You guys don't? lol.
How do you get anything done?!
You guys don't? lol.
How do you get anything done?!
Then practice what you preach. I gave my opinion and you called me out. You have called others out before, but the difference is I will defend myself. You like to attack to get a reaction out of people. Like I said I gave my opinion and I will continue to do so. If you don't like that ignore me. You should anyways because you have attacked me numerous times before. It is like having a sick stalker after me.
Stalker? lol get over yourself. Really. Im not calling you out for your opinion, obviously the Pro is better in terms of features and graphic intensive programs. Im calling you out for your statement of "feeling bad for anyone that buys the crapbook over the entry level MBP" which is totally unfair, and you know it.
For a measley $150 I don't know it. IMO it makes no sense to buy the new 2.4 Macbook (which IMO is a ripoff at $1599 compared to the 2.0 at $1299 or the new Macbook Pro at $1749).
IMO
Well, if you take the edu discount into consideration, the 2.4 MB is $1499. Just sayin
Yes that is a fantastic deal for the entry level MBP, but some people dont need/want something of that size.
Regardless the choice of words, I was going to agree with MacJenn this time that a $150 difference between the 2.4 MBP and 2.4 MB was a good deal...
But then I looked further, the $150 was sale price of MBP over regular price of MB. They are actually still both on sale now (MacConnection): $1749 for 2.4 MBP and $1399 for 2.4 MB. The difference is indeed $350, not $150? May be I looked up the wrong models? Please advise.
But then I looked further, the $150 was sale price of MBP over regular price of MB. They are actually still both on sale now (MacConnection): $1749 for 2.4 MBP and $1399 for 2.4 MB. The difference is indeed $350, not $150? May be I looked up the wrong models? Please advise.
They just put the new Macbook on sale then. I checked it a few days ago and it was for 1549. Thanks for checking. $1399 for the new 2.4 Macbook and $1749 for the new Macbook Pro are great deals. Plus no tax at least for me.
I once read on another forum that even the lowest spec MBP will outperform a completely spec'ed out MB.. thoughts?
I use a 16 core Mac Pro running on a generator as my portable solution.
You guys don't? lol.
How do you get anything done?!
HA! Funny as hell and very fitting.
There is not going to be much speed difference between the MBP and MB in this day in age. You either need the light weight, or you need the FW800, express card slot, 15" screen, and the dedicated GFX card.
Personally, the screen on the MB was a put off for me. Yeah, I can hook it up to an external monitor, but what's the point of having a laptop instead of a mini?
I intend to keep my pro for at least a couple of years. Considering the screen is what I'll be primarily interfacing with, a nicer one was a consideration. (Admittedly, if I didn't have the money for the upgrade, this might have been different.)
Apple's always had a history of scrimping on the entry level laptops. Compare a iBook to even a 12" powerbook. They didn't stop this at the unibody macbook. While it's the best screen (IMO) on a consumer mac laptop, it's still not the same compared to the pro. What bothers me is that Apple was less than forthcoming about this fact, as they were about the HDCP on the display port.
I don't really blame them for the scrimping, because then the MB's would really eat into MBP sales. What I do blame them for is NOT acknowledging the difference between the two screens.
OTOH, for a consumer laptop, the unibody is the best entry level mac they've made to date, and I'm NOT knocking the people who chose that feature or price set and bought it.
That being said, MacJenn and CoreyMac, don't make me pull this car over!
I intend to keep my pro for at least a couple of years. Considering the screen is what I'll be primarily interfacing with, a nicer one was a consideration. (Admittedly, if I didn't have the money for the upgrade, this might have been different.)
Apple's always had a history of scrimping on the entry level laptops. Compare a iBook to even a 12" powerbook. They didn't stop this at the unibody macbook. While it's the best screen (IMO) on a consumer mac laptop, it's still not the same compared to the pro. What bothers me is that Apple was less than forthcoming about this fact, as they were about the HDCP on the display port.
I don't really blame them for the scrimping, because then the MB's would really eat into MBP sales. What I do blame them for is NOT acknowledging the difference between the two screens.
OTOH, for a consumer laptop, the unibody is the best entry level mac they've made to date, and I'm NOT knocking the people who chose that feature or price set and bought it.
That being said, MacJenn and CoreyMac, don't make me pull this car over!
lol
Does that mean I'm the eldest? It sounds like little sis' is the spoiled one!
