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My teeth have been killing me so I went to the dentist. He took x-rays and said that I need two root canals at a price of $3800! The two teeth are in the back, which I am told costs more, because back teeth have more roots.

But the price seems a bit high to me. Unfortunately I don't have dental insurance. Any personal experiences appreciated!
 
Without dental insurance, that sounds still a bit high.

With insurance its still probably $1500 for both.

And yes, the back costs more. Since molars have 4 roots whereas premolars have 3 and front teeth 1 i think.

anyway, the root canal is only part of your problem. youll need a crown most likely afterwards, and that is another $350-700 per tooth.

AFAIK there is NO dental insurance in the same sense of medical. most if not all plans are for discount plans, i.e. the root canal would cost like 80% less.

credit cards suck, but they were made for dentists. though in your case, youd be seeing an endodontist.
 
Yikes!

I had a root canal a couple of years ago, and it cost around NZ$300, which is about US$200. Granted it was a front tooth, but that's a HUGE price difference! :eek:
 
Thanks for the info Sdashiki! Actually this is a general dentist I am talking about that would be doing all the work. He is not even an endonist.
 
$3800 sounds high but if I were you I would not give a dime to a dentist for a root canal. Have an endodontist do it. Also, call one, ask what the general cost is for two would be.
 
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I presume this cost includes crowns. The last time I had a root canal plus a crown the cost was close to $2,000.00. The endodontist charged $1,300.00 and the dentist around $600 for the crown. This was a couple of years ago. It is crazy-expensive.

Do you have any teaching hospitals in your area?
 
Thanks for the info Sdashiki! Actually this is a general dentist I am talking about that would be doing all the work. He is not even an endonist.

that much for a DENTIST to do it?

out-**cken-rageous!

Endodontists ONLY do root canals, so they must be damn good at them, and YES you pay for that experience. but you only get ONE adult tooth!

Call around, get some prices, and many will cut deals for those in need, etc etc.

I presume this cost includes crowns. The last time I had a root canal plus a crown the cost was close to $2,000.00. The endodontist charged $1,300.00 and the dentist around $600 for the crown. This was a couple of years ago. It is crazy-expensive.

Do you have any teaching hospitals in your area?

i guess i should now figure, since its a dentist, it includes the crowns.

but id still split the work between the endo and the dentist, for the RC and crown respectively.


ps: Ive had 3 root canals. 2 in the last year. grinding my teeth caught up with me.
 
My sympathies.

I suggest getting a good referral from someone on who to do your root canal.... even if it is to confirm with one of your aquaintences that is also your dentist's client.

Not sure about the cost - frankly I only remember what I pay and I have dental insurance. That's why I'll tell you I paid $500 for a crown to be done on a molar last year when the actual cost of that crown was $1,000. (dental insurance covered half of it)

Are you sure you don't have insurance.... I know that one of my friends changed dentists when he realized that his medical plan would cover his dental cheaper. On the other hand, I choose my dental plan since it allows me to keep the dentist I've had forever and not just some guy the insurance company assigns to me.
 
Thanks for everyone's advice!

Yes the price also includes crowns, so I guess the price is not far off. I will ask around to see if I can get a good recommendation. There is a teaching hospital nearby that I can give a call (University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ). Thanks for idea IJ Reilly!

I just want to get this done soon, because the pain is intense. I don't have medical either so I will have to pay. Thanks again everyone!

When I spend this much money on something I at least want it to have a shiny Apple logo on it ;)
 
My mom is a dentist and she says pending on the tooth each one can cost anywhere from $400 to $1000 Canadian.
 
Update:

I just got off the phone with the dentist I have been talking about. He said I can pay $1900 today for 2 root canals and fillings and in a few weeks pay another $1900 for posts and crowns.

I am taking this deal. He is doing the root canals today (Sunday) at 1:30.
 
go somewhere else

If you want to save money, you can have a vacation trip and fix your teeth.
For example go to any South American Country, with airfare + lodging + sight seeing and professional dentist can save, enjoy and get your teeth professionaly cured.
My estimates are: air ticket $600, lodging $300, Food, beers, party $300, use taxis $200, Dentist fee $300, just in case money $300.
And if you want to go there just to fix your teeth you can save a lot, with less than $1000 you can just fly there, get your treatment and safely return.
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Your dentist works on Sunday? Is he a Seventh-Day Ad-dentist? ;)

Not sure I like the idea of going abroad for medical treatment. I know more Americans are doing this (Thailand being a common destination), but if something goes wrong later, who are you going to call?
 
I'm back already. Wasn't nearly as bad as I anticipated. Two root canals took 1 hour only. I have to go back next week for the posts. He is charging $2000 for the 2 root canals and posts. He said I may not need the crowns. We'll see.

Yeah I can't believe this guy works Sundays!
 
It's when I moved to the US that I realized how much more I appreciated my dentist (also an endodontist) back home (India) $50 a tooth for root canal :p .. including the teeth at the back which have more roots!
 
It is usually around $1600 per tooth. (I've had two root canals, but I am trying to recall what my insurance was billed each time) It's worth it to go to a reputable place, you don't want a bad crown.

How "in the back" are these teeth? If they are the very last teeth (especially if they your "wisdom teeth") and you're broke, maybe consider having them pulled.

Won't hurt to get a second opinion either. that does sound slightly pricey.

edit: errrp, nevermind this, I didn't see your reply about already having it done.
 
I work in the dental industry.

And I see this is a bit late, as the OP has already had the work done. You'd be surprised to find out that dental costs vary from city to city, whatever the market will bear. It pays to check the costs with various dentists and endodontists. It may be that the price is so high because the proximity to the NYC metro area.

Also, the challenge with root canals is bacterial contamination and infection. To do a root canal, the dentist/endodontist first has to drill out all the infection and pus from the tooth root (which is not ease because most roots have a curvature to them, and may even have odd angles), and then place a heated rubber insert (gutta percha) or a synthetic rubber insert within the hollowed out canal. The benefits of the synthetic insert is that you can get a tighter bond when using a resin self-etching cement. However, most doctors/endo specialists use gutta percha because they are familiar with the product (it's been used in dentistry for almost 100 years) and the subsequent technique.

Why go to all this trouble you ask? Because almost 40% of all root canals need retreatment within 3-5 years. Always check with your dentist or endo specialist to find out what his rate of retreatments are for root canals!
 
I paid €85 but of course I live in a country that has UHC, you know that socialist plague.:D
 
Yep it's like £70 plus a bit more in the uk with a crown it's 350 total.
 
FWIW, I've had two root canals.

The first one was done by my dentist and I felt a bit "pressured" into doing it(i.e. "You have to do this and I have to do it today." In retrospect, I should have both had a second opinion and if I'd needed it(don't really doubt) would have had an endodontist do it. My dentist split it into two sessions a month apart-one where apparently she did the root clean-out and another where she did the filling, something that now seems ridiculous to me. In any case, I woke up in excruciating pain two days later, called here, she took an X-ray and said "Oops, I missed a root." A few hours later, she'd at least taken care of that and done everything up to the point of fitting a crown. It was overall an unpleasant experience.

The second was with an endodontist. I'd been sent on referral by my dentist(a different one from the above) to a peridontist for a bump on my gums. The peridontist looked at it, x-rayed it, called in the endodontist across the hall to look at it, and they both advised a root canal and said it shouldn't wait as the "bump" was the result of an abcess.

The endodontist worked me in that day over lunch, and did the entire thing in about an hour and a half on one of my second molars. He was quick, but also extremely thorough. I'd guess he took about a half dozen X-rays through the course of doing it(my first didn't take a single one during). I mentioned something to him about my folly with the first and he said first of all that he's seen serious complications from splitting into two sessions, said that all my teeth had the same root arrangement as the one where I'd had the issue and even though it wasn't a "textbook" arrangement it was still common and easily visible on the X-ray. He of course didn't openly criticize the dentist who had done my first one, but had a look of "What kind of hack was that?"(BTW, that was a hack dentist who later had her license suspended over one specific incident). The endodontist was relatively painless, fast, and there again well worth seeing. I think he charged $900 only.

BTW, I've never had dental insurance, and I usually get both a good deal as a cash customer(I get the impression that a lot don't like dealing with the insurance) and usually a 5-10% discount for paying in full before I leave the office. There again, I suspect the rate of no-pays on cash customers also makes them incentivize a paid in full bill.
 
I’ve had 2 root canals done by a dentist. Both had to be redone by an endodontist a few years later.
 
are the back teeth the very back teeth?
can you do w/o them?

consider geeting the 2 teeth pulled. The procedure is simpler, heals faster than a root canal
 
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