macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Jan 1, 2008
I am thinking of getting a Mac Pro again, I have found a stock build 2012 Mac Pro W3565 6GB RAM etc for $200. (seller is downsizing).

I would drop a x5690, max out the RAM and get a GTX 1080 for it, so the price will jump up.

But I am wondering how much longer it will be before Apple stops supporting the hardware in their OS.

I think I saw that they officially dropped the 2009 already, so I worry if it will be maintained much longer.


macrumors regular
Jan 15, 2018
My Cinema Display from 2012 is soon Vintage. This is Apple-store saying that. I heard 7 year rule and this will include 2012 Mac Pro 5.1 for at least 2019, right? And with Mojave coming up with Metal demand?? My ADM Radeon 7950 HD will work.



Oct 31, 2017
No one really knows. At this point the only thing we know is Apple has stated the 2010 / 2012 Mac Pro, with an appropriate (as yet to be defined) graphics card, will be supported in Mojave. Therefore at least one more release of macOS.

My advice is to evaluate the systems ability to perform the tasks you need to do (current and short term) and buy based on whether it meets your current and short term needs. Do not buy with the expectation it may be able to do something in the future. Consider any future updates icing on the cake.


macrumors 65816
Jul 29, 2011
Yeah, when I bought my 4,1 (2009) four years ago I remember people saying it was on borrowed time. It really is now. In terms of value and longevity, a 2009 (4,1) has been pretty much the longest-lived Mac ever in terms of receiving OS updates (unofficially of course, but without any hacks).

Because the 2009/2010/2012 are all basically the same, I would imagine their platform is going to collectively bow out of official MacOS updates once Apple has their newest iteration of the Mac Pro on the market. Since they culled a bunch of machines this year and usually don't like to do that two years in a row, then I'm pretty optimistic that we will get the 2019 MacOS release, and probably be axed off in 2020.

But, the beauty of the cheese grater is that hardware components can be swapped out (and now it looks like some things can be done with the firmware as well) so if there is ever a Mac that could keep going (unofficially, with modifications to the OS installer) then the 4,1/5,1 is it.

But there are absolutely no guarantees when it comes to Apple. Even the 2012 model is 6 years old now and Apple often ceases MacOS compatibility after 7. So if you're looking for a sure thing you may want to hold off.

But $200 for a 2012 is a good deal. If it's in good physical condition you should be able to sell that for twice what you paid for it (I think... although I haven't looked at resale values lately).


macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2009
If you could get more use out of the stock 2012 MP than a watch band then you'll come out ahead in terms of contemporary Apple value

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macrumors 6502a
Apr 25, 2008
Apple continues issuing security updates for the previous two OS releases so Mojave would give the cMP at least 3 more years of support.
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