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robbieduncan said:
Standard notebook drives are 2.5". The iPod ones are smaller. It has been said that continuous running of an iPod causes the drive to get very hot which is not good for it.

Using any HDD based iPod as a STORAGE device is fine.

Using any HDD based iPod as a BOOTABLE device is BAD.


There is NO ventilation in the iPod case to cool the HDD, that is why it has a buffer so the HDD is not constantly spinning. :)
 
maya said:
You PAY for your Apple Tech to install hardware. I never. :)


When I upgrade my Mac Mini and have Apple install the third party RAM, it will have been the first time I've had Apple install something for me.

When you buy one, you can go ahead and void your warranty on a first generation computer all you want. Me? I'm playing it safe.
 
Peyote said:
When I upgrade my Mac Mini and have Apple install the third party RAM, it will have been the first time I've had Apple install something for me.

When you buy one, you can go ahead and void your warranty on a first generation computer all you want. Me? I'm playing it safe.


I either do it myself or take it to an Apple Tech and they do it for me if I bring the component(s) that needs upgrading they do it for me at least for free. I didn't know you had to pay them. :)
 
kettle said:
what about adding an airport card? do you think that is user serviceable?


Nothing on the Mac Mini is "user servicable". If you want to void your Applecare, you are more than welcome to take a crack at it. Since nobody has a Mac Mini yet, nobody knows where the warranty tape is, or to what lengths they go to to make sure you can't replace parts without voiding Applecare.
 
maya said:
I either do it myself or take it to an Apple Tech and they do it for me if I bring the component(s) that needs upgrading they do it for me at least for free. I didn't know you had to pay them. :)


Must be nice to know a tech. Most of us don't and will have to pay a small fee for a RAM upgrade.
 
Peyote said:
You can buy third party 1GB ram and have Apple install it (for probably around $50). I'll be ordering a Mac Mini in 2 weeks, and that's what I'll be doing.

i'd make sure you can do this before you buy it... i'd ask apple if you can take the mini to an apple store and have them install the RAM and if so, for how much.

i wouldn't want to get in between third-party technician's "words" and apple's official warranty policy, if it comes to it...

sounds like a good plan if it works!

oh, i'd also check to make sure that the RAM is in good working order before asking it be installed. if it's a dud, you may need to have the mini serviced twice...
 
Peyote said:
Nothing on the Mac Mini is "user servicable". If you want to void your Applecare, you are more than welcome to take a crack at it. Since nobody has a Mac Mini yet, nobody knows where the warranty tape is, or to what lengths they go to to make sure you can't replace parts without voiding Applecare.
Are you sure the Airport isn't user-installable? On http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html it very clearly says that RAM has to be installed by Apple, but does not say that about AirPort.

Weird, though, in that in the photo at the bottom of http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html it looks like the RAM is very accessible. Dunno why they would say Apple has to install it.
 
jxyama said:
i'd make sure you can do this before you buy it... i'd ask apple if you can take the mini to an apple store and have them install the RAM and if so, for how much.

i wouldn't want to get in between third-party technician's "words" and apple's official warranty policy, if it comes to it...

sounds like a good plan if it works!

oh, i'd also check to make sure that the RAM is in good working order before asking it be installed. if it's a dud, you may need to have the mini serviced twice...


I thought about that too, but it occurs to me that if Apple had a policy where you had to buy Ram through them, then people who already had a piece of Ram to use, or were given some Ram, or pulled a stick from another machine, etc....wouldn't be allowed to use the Ram they had. I don't think Apple would have that type of policy. Then again, you never know.
 
I'm at work and I can't call, but someone needs to call their local Apple store and ask:

I already have a stick of 1GB DDR 2700 SDRAM...I understand that's what the new Mac Mini uses. I want to purchase a Mac Mini and use 1GB of RAM in it, but I don't want to buy the RAM through Apple since I already have it. Can you guys install it for me when my Mac arrives?
 
another option is to wait 1 year for your applecare to run out (unless you buy the extended 3 year) and then replace the stock 256 stick with a 2GB stick that should be availible by then and all G4s support up to 2GB of RAM if the sticks are out there.

Tyler
 
Toe said:
Are you sure the Airport isn't user-installable? On http://www.apple.com/macmini/specs.html it very clearly says that RAM has to be installed by Apple, but does not say that about AirPort.

Weird, though, in that in the photo at the bottom of http://www.apple.com/macmini/design.html it looks like the RAM is very accessible. Dunno why they would say Apple has to install it.

The problem isn't to change the RAM when the case is open... It's how to pry it open it without breaking (any of) the small plastic thingies holding it together without special tools and experience that's the trick... ;)
 
Here's a little more info on upgrading the RAM yourself:

A quote from http://www.macintouch.com/mwsf2005notebook.html:

"I went back to the booth later and got a little more info on upgrading the Mac Mini.

Apple "does not recommend" that users upgrade the memory themselves - you're supposed to have a service provider do it if you want to add more after purchase - but doing it yourself does not void the warranty unless you damage something. A booth person told me the memory slot is easily accessible once you get the case open.


You can add AirPort Extreme for $79 and/or Bluetooth for $50 if you're ordering the Mini from the Apple Store, but if you want to add wireless later, your only choice will be a kit that includes both AirPort Extreme and Bluetooth for about $129 ($112 to dealers). This stuff also is not user-installable, supposedly because it involves adding antennas as well as cards."



Seems like damaging the case when you open it wouldn't void the warranty...so if you are competent enough to get it open and install RAM without damaging the internals, it should be fine with the warranty. We still need concrete confirmation though.
 
maya said:
I either do it myself or take it to an Apple Tech and they do it for me if I bring the component(s) that needs upgrading they do it for me at least for free. I didn't know you had to pay them. :)

remember that when you ask someone to do something, you are asking for their time... physical parts involved aren't the only costs involved...

if you took all the ingredients to a restaurant, would you expect the chef to cook them for you for free?
 
If you've noticed by the pictures on Apple's site, this thing snaps together. there are no torx screws or anything. This thing is not meant to come apart after the top is snapped on...
 

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jayscheuerle said:
If you've noticed by the pictures on Apple's site, this thing snaps together. there are no torx screws or anything. This thing is not meant to come apart after the top is snapped on...

This link if from another thread and also another site:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,12355404~mode=flat~days=9999~start=80


The Mac mini uses a 2.5" HDD folks, just as I stated. :)

iBook stripped down with a DIMM slot instead of a SO-DIMM and higher DDR rating. :)
 
jxyama said:
if you took all the ingredients to a restaurant, would you expect the chef to cook them for you for free?

Unless you know the chef and they give you the food for free. :)

In my case I know the Apple Tech for a long time, and even if he is not there the other Apple Tech will also do it for free (even though I do not know him). :)

Besides he also does PC repairs so its not much of a bother anyhow in my situation. :)
 
jayscheuerle said:
If you've noticed by the pictures on Apple's site, this thing snaps together. there are no torx screws or anything. This thing is not meant to come apart after the top is snapped on...


Neither is the iPod....and yet you can replace the battery yourself.

All this means is that it could be tricky to open.
 
Here's another for you
 

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maya said:
This link if from another thread and also another site:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/r0/download/751329~c3836acf068a9b227834e0adda226ac2/Picture1.jpg


The Mac mini uses a 2.5" HDD folks, just as I stated. :)

iBook stripped down with a DIMM slot instead of a SO-DIMM and higher DDR rating. :)

Just so you know, the link you posted just redirects to a picture of Barney the Purple Dinosaur on the PBS web site. If that's your idea of a 2.5" hard drive, you gotta put down the crack pipe and get some fresh air.

"Hey, can you retrieve those sales figures and marketing reports from your hard drive?"

"Yeah sure, let me ask Barney to get them!"
 
oingoboingo said:
Just so you know, the link you posted just redirects to a picture of Barney the Purple Dinosaur on the PBS web site. If that's your idea of a 2.5" hard drive, you gotta put down the crack pipe and get some fresh air.

Looks like someone doesn't like people linking to his or her images :p
 
oingoboingo said:
Just so you know, the link you posted just redirects to a picture of Barney the Purple Dinosaur on the PBS web site. If that's your idea of a 2.5" hard drive, you gotta put down the crack pipe and get some fresh air.

"Hey, can you retrieve those sales figures and marketing reports from your hard drive?"

"Yeah sure, let me ask Barney to get them!"

They changed it as of recent. Oh well it was on a public forum. :eek:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,12355404~mode=flat~days=9999~start=80


^^The image attachment is near the bottom of the page. :)
 
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