How Often Do You Shower (or: “Opinionated Adults Debate On The Underlying Psychological Causes...)

[BigMcGuire]

You’re trying to shun people’s right to ask silly questions based on your own moral compass. I understand what you’re trying to say, but your perspective is something I don’t personally agree with. I don’t know what world you’re describing that you grew up in, but my grandparents wouldn’t be offended by this poll in any way, shape, or form. This sounds uniquely personal.

I was born in the 80s. It's more of a gender thing for me. I would never ask a girl how often she showers. A guy? Heh, most of my friends (male) wouldn't care if I asked them that. I definitely wouldn't ask a woman that question, lol (friend or not).

 

[LizKat]

You’re trying to shun people’s right to ask silly questions based on your own moral compass. I understand what you’re trying to say, but your perspective is something I don’t personally agree with. I don’t know what world you’re describing that you grew up in, but my grandparents wouldn’t be offended by this poll in any way, shape, or form. This sounds uniquely personal.

Uniquely personal? The poll question is personal. Thinking that the question is personal is hardly unique, even if individual posts in this thread that address that fact are from assorted singular perspectives.

The poll opened a thread so it's up for discussion. Plenty of threads in these forums that offer polls contain lively discussions of the poll, its wording, what the answers could mean, even the thread title that went with it if not a part or the whole of the poll question itself.

 

[Spoon!]

I was born in the 80s. It's more of a gender thing for me. I would never ask a girl how often she showers. A guy? Heh, most of my friends (male) wouldn't care if I asked them that. I definitely wouldn't ask a woman that question, lol (friend or not).

So was I. I have no issues with it. I don’t think people should be afraid to talk about personal issues based on their own perceived “societal norms” and stereotypes. When you have a certain level of trust with a person, you’ll find you can talk about a lot of things, regardless of their gender. Women aren’t fragile magical unicorns that you can’t talk to about stuff. Obviously there are things that nobody wants to share, but way too many people are closed off these days because they fear they’ll offend someone.

Uniquely personal? The poll question is personal. Thinking that the question is personal is hardly unique, even if individual posts in this thread that address that fact are from assorted singular perspectives.

The poll opened a thread so it's up for discussion. Plenty of threads in these forums that offer polls contain lively discussions of the poll, its wording, what the answers could mean, even the thread title that went with it if not a part or the whole of the poll question itself.

It’s personal to him, not me. This is all subjective. And because he finds it personal ... he has the choice of avoiding the poll or the thread entirely. I’m not telling him not to have an open discussion, but what he’s said so far is that people shouldn’t have the right to post questions like this because it offends him ... and I couldn’t possibly disagree more. Shunning topics he feels shouldn’t be discussed is the exact opposite of open discussion.

** Edited because I apparently had no idea who I was responding to

 

[LizKat]

It’s personal to you. Not me. This is all subjective. And because you find it personal ... you have the choice of avoiding the poll or the thread entirely.

Of course I have that option (in addition to the option to remark on the poll from my perspective). This is a discussion forum and there's no rule against offering an opinion related to the thread topic.

Clearly the younger and older generations participating here may view things differently: that's true of many topics, not just polls on how often one takes a shower. Social media sites are often useful for noting generational shifts in attitudes towards everything!

 

[Spoon!]

Of course I have that option (in addition to the option to remark on the poll from my perspective). This is a discussion forum and there's no rule against offering an opinion related to the thread topic.

Clearly the younger and older generations participating here may view things differently: that's true of many topics, not just polls on how often one takes a shower. Social media sites are often useful for noting generational shifts in attitudes towards everything!

I thought I was responding to Scribe, so most of that wasn’t even directed at you. .-.

I’m just amazed at how up in arms some people are over this topic. If it was an abortion thread or something I’d completely understand. But being asked how many times a day one showers is just a wee bit trivial in the grand scheme of things.

 

[LizKat]

I thought I was responding to Scribe, so most of that wasn’t even directed at you. .-.

I’m just amazed at how up in arms some people are over this topic. If it was an abortion thread or something I’d completely understand. But being asked how many times a day one showers is just a wee bit trivial in the grand scheme of things.

I replied to a particular part of your post that quoted something I had said.

Since these are discussion forums and not a shooting gallery, I wouldn't describe myself as up in arms over any thread topic.

The poll question in this thread is not particularly trivial, or at least as some have already noted, it's not a trivial matter to them.

If I lived in a time and place with severe water restrictions like back in the 70s in NYC -- "Save water, shower with a friend!" was plastered all over billboards, buses, subway cars-- I might have viewed the question somewhat differently and even answered it, and justified my response one way or another. Since I'm not in a drought zone at the moment I chose to regard the question as personal, even invasive, and so not to answer.

And sure, I chose to reply to a post you made in response to a post made by someone else -- because I happened to agree with some of its sentiments. No rule against that either. I don't mind butting into a conversation on the boards since it's not the same as a PM conversation by invitation only

 

[worldvga]

yes!!! its daily. its the freshness what you feel after bath is the awesome

 

[Scepticalscribe]

@Scepticalscribe And there may be a generational factor at play, I'm sure. I was born in '98 and have been using the internet for most of my life. I'm used to social media and friends who share every aspect of their lives online. It's normal among people my age. In fact, I'm one of the more reticent ones who doesn't feel the need to post every meal they've ever eaten on Instagram or share where they are at every moment with their friends.

Of course I have that option (in addition to the option to remark on the poll from my perspective). This is a discussion forum and there's no rule against offering an opinion related to the thread topic.

Clearly the younger and older generations participating here may view things differently: that's true of many topics, not just polls on how often one takes a shower. Social media sites are often useful for noting generational shifts in attitudes towards everything!

Very good points; I certainly think that this is exactly the sort of subject matter that different or respective generations (form different cultures) may view very differently. Region, age, class, ethnicity, and indeed gender may all influence how one may choose to answer or participate in such a poll.

I'm middle-aged, and am not American - I'm from the British Isles, where personal reserve - especially in some middle class backgrounds - is inculcated from birth. Asking someone such a question would have been considered the height of bad manners - and indeed, it might have inferred judgments on their personal hygiene as well. Context matters.

Shunning topics he feels shouldn’t be discussed is the exact opposite of open discussion.

I'm not arguing for "shunning" such a topic (and the points @ThisBougieLife and @LizKat have made about attitudes to such matters differing between generations is a very valid one, I think) but I am asking why someone would post such a thread and think that they had a right to answers.

 

[Spoon!]

I'm not arguing for "shunning" such a topic (and the points @ThisBougieLife and @LizKat have made abut attitudes to such matters differing between generations is a very valid one, I think) but I am asking why someone would post such a thread and think that they had a right to answers.

Why wouldn't they have the right to the answers? You're creating a problem where there is none. They have every right. They're not breaking any rules and the topic seems to offend you on a level that doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

......Obviously there are things that nobody wants to share, but way too many people are closed off these days because they fear they’ll offend someone.

A point of information: It is easy to assume or attribute motives to others online (and I have been guilty of that, too), however, you can note a stance or position without attributing motives.

On this subject, it is the assumption that one is content to have one's personal boundaries and privacy eroded that concerns me most; preferring not to give offence by asking questions that could be considered invasive or intrusive (and my assumed right to information does not override someone else's discomfort with such questions) comes a close second.

And no, I was not born in the 80s, or 90s.

So, yes, my cultural sensibilities in such matters lie a decade or so before that.

 

[Spoon!]

A point of information: It is easy to assume or attribute motives to others online (and I have been guilty of that, too), however, you can note a stance or position without attributing motives.

On this subject, it is the assumption that one is content to have one's personal boundaries and privacy eroded that concerns me most; preferring not to give offence by asking questions that could be considered invasive or intrusive (and my assumed right to information does not override someone else's discomfort with such questions) comes a close second.

And no, I was not born in the 80s, or 90s.

So, yes, my cultural sensibilities in such matters lie a decade or so before that.

In that context, I agree that people are very careless with their personal information and privacy these days.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Why wouldn't they have the right to the answers? You're creating a problem where there is none. They have every right. They're not breaking any rules and the topic seems to offend you on a level that doesn't make any sense to me.

They may have the right to ask a question. Only the respondent has the right to determine whether or not they shall reply, and how much they choose to disclose.

You set your own boundaries; others do not have the right to dictate where your boundaries lie.

That is, not unless you are a police officer asking lawful questions, a teacher in class, a superior at work asking questions appropriate to the context, a partner and so on. Context determines the right to demand - or expect - answers.

An online poll? Whether one chooses to answer that is entirely discretionary.

 

[Spoon!]

They may have the right to ask a question. Only the respondent has the right to determine whether or not they shall reply, and how much they choose to disclose.

You set your own boundaries; others do not have the right to dictate where your boundaries lie.

That is, not unless you are a police officer asking lawful questions, a teacher in class, a superior at work asking questions appropriate to the context, a partner and so on. Context determines the right to demand - or expect - answers.

An online poll? Whether one chooses to answer that is entirely discretionary.

I think we are, in some weird way, saying the same thing.

 

[max2]

2 times a day there is no option for this.

 

[AngerDanger]

Man, now I'm really second guessing whether or not I should press the "Create Thread" button on my "How long do you shower, and which body part do you spend the most time washing, and can you please upload an audio file of you in the shower (It's not like I'm asking for a video!)?" thread…

 

[EEzycade]

I believe this thread should be renamed,
“Opinionated Adults Debate On The Underlying Psychological Causes Of Mass Acceptance Of Personal Questions Related To Hygiene, And The Effects Thereof”

 

[Matz]

Come to think of it, it’s just about time for my shower!

 

[ucfgrad93]

Once a day.

 

[Spoon!]

I believe this thread should be renamed,
“Opinionated Adults Debate On The Underlying Psychological Causes Of Mass Acceptance Of Personal Questions Related To Hygiene, And The Effects Thereof”

Yeah, this is apparently poll of the century. Future generations will tell tales of what went down here. The Great Hygiene Debate of 2018.

 

[Gutwrench]

Clearly this is a social issue thread. I’m in while I can. Lalalala.

 

[vkd]

My French friends have told me that the Metro in Paris used to stink

Now you know why the French invented perfume

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I believe this thread should be renamed,
“Opinionated Adults Debate On The Underlying Psychological Causes Of Mass Acceptance Of Personal Questions Related To Hygiene, And The Effects Thereof”

Sounds like a riveting read.

I was born in the 80s. It's more of a gender thing for me. I would never ask a girl how often she showers. A guy? Heh, most of my friends (male) wouldn't care if I asked them that. I definitely wouldn't ask a woman that question, lol (friend or not).

Part of me has been desensitized to these kinds of questions and discussions after living with other guys my age. Last year I lived with four other guys, all 19-20. The things they shared. I know way too much about all of them...

 

[Nunyabinez]

What may be just as interesting as how often people shower/bathe is when. My experience is that people in the US tend to shower in the morning, while much of Europe and Asia tend to shower in the evening. But, maybe more people in the US shower in the evening than I am aware of.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

What may be just as interesting as how often people shower/bathe is when. My experience is that people in the US tend to shower in the morning, while much of Europe and Asia tend to shower in the evening. But, maybe more people in the US shower in the evening than I am aware of.

I'm European, and most of the Europeans I know shower in the morning.

Evening showers tend to be taken in hot weather, or those who are enthusiastic visitors to the gym.

 

[Plutonius]

But it is also about the evolving etiquette of the online world, which is what I am querying.

I'm of the opinion that there is very little etiquette in the online world and the lack of it is becoming norm in the real world .
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What may be just as interesting as how often people shower/bathe is when. My experience is that people in the US tend to shower in the morning, while much of Europe and Asia tend to shower in the evening. But, maybe more people in the US shower in the evening than I am aware of.

Most people I know of shower at night because they don't have the time in the morning (many have long commutes to work).