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With respect to modern games in Windows like Crysis 3, Tomb Raider 2013, etc. I would say that as long as your happy with Medium settings at 1080p or lower then you'll be happy with the 650M in the 15 inch Retina. I think in maybe 3-4 years as long as you're willing to drop the resolution down to 1440x900 or 1280x800 with medium settings you'll still be OK. That's just a scientific wild a** guess though.

People here think the Haswell rMBP 15 is going to be a huge leap in gaming performance. Nope. The 750M is just a clockspeed bump with minor improvements. The iGPU will be the biggest improvement and may spur Apple on to do a 'cheaper' rMBP 15 version with only a iGPU as a more affordable 15" option. But for gaming, the Haswell rMBP will be at best 10% or more so faster. As the majority of modern games are GPU limited on the current rMBP. The next big bump for portable dGPU's will be with the next die shrink with the '850M' generation.
 
I don't know if the macbook pros can still drain a battery while plugged into the wall. This was the case with 2011s, so yeah I wouldn't want them to cram in a bigger gpu there with the current power adapter. Die shrinks are nothing new even though gpu manufacturers tend to change architecture less often. What makes you excited about Maxwell? Westmere was also a die shrink. Apple skipped the quad nehalem chips in their notebook lines.

With good reason, i7q Nehalem were among the hottest and most inefficient CPUs ever put in mainstream notebooks...

Among other things, Maxwell is essentially becoming a full SoC (integrating an ARM CPU) which expands the potential of CUDA and similar computing platforms, making them a lot easier to write for. The energy efficiency- most importantly in laptops- will get a boost. It's all about the speed per watt with a ultraslim computer like the MBP.
 
I don't know if the macbook pros can still drain a battery while plugged into the wall. This was the case with 2011s, so yeah I wouldn't want them to cram in a bigger gpu there with the current power adapter. Die shrinks are nothing new even though gpu manufacturers tend to change architecture less often. What makes you excited about Maxwell? Westmere was also a die shrink. Apple skipped the quad nehalem chips in their notebook lines.

MacBook Pro 2012 and 2013 did not.

People here think the Haswell rMBP 15 is going to be a huge leap in gaming performance. Nope. The 750M is just a clockspeed bump with minor improvements. The iGPU will be the biggest improvement and may spur Apple on to do a 'cheaper' rMBP 15 version with only a iGPU as a more affordable 15" option. But for gaming, the Haswell rMBP will be at best 10% or more so faster. As the majority of modern games are GPU limited on the current rMBP. The next big bump for portable dGPU's will be with the next die shrink with the '850M' generation.

I agree. I don't expect any significant advantage expect perhaps a faster scaling for Retina using 1680x1050 or 1920x1200 due to AVX 2 set.
 
With good reason, i7q Nehalem were among the hottest and most inefficient CPUs ever put in mainstream notebooks...

yeah clarksfield was dreadful, the only good cpu in there was the 920/940xm

Among other things, Maxwell is essentially becoming a full SoC (integrating an ARM CPU) which expands the potential of CUDA and similar computing platforms, making them a lot easier to write for. The energy efficiency- most importantly in laptops- will get a boost. It's all about the speed per watt with a ultraslim computer like the MBP.

I hope so, currently kepler only serves gamers

But to OP:

680m is around 3x faster than your gpu
7970m is around 3x faster than your gpu
the 680mx is around 3.2x faster than your gpu

that means for example while you deliver 20fps in a game they will deliver 60fps
 
Among other things, Maxwell is essentially becoming a full SoC (integrating an ARM CPU) which expands the potential of CUDA and similar computing platforms, making them a lot easier to write for. The energy efficiency- most importantly in laptops- will get a boost. It's all about the speed per watt with a ultraslim computer like the MBP.
A SoC with ARM CPU is just a rumor at this point. Many seem to mix up Tegra 6 and the some possible Tesla configs with just Maxwell. I have my doubts that the normal consumer gaming GPUs will see such a thing. Efficiency will be boosted by 20nm an ARM CPU could only really help with GPGPU and in all other instances like gaming hurt efficiency more than anything.
 
i use mbpr as a gaming laptop
for some ereason:
1. mbpr has 2800x1920 resolution (while playing you should decrease it to 1920x1800 but it is higher than ussual
2. mbpr is thin but alien ware m18x is 5.12kg other gaming laptops just like that heavy biiiig and of course their design is ****
3.i can play :
crysis 3 30fps (1920x1800) low setting
max payne 3 very high setting 30-45 fps (2800x1920)
far cry 3 60fps
PES 13 76-60fps


GPU TEMP USSUALLY 58-74

4. key board backlit at nigh is really fantastic!

MBPR GAMING PERFORMANCE IS 1.5X BETTER THAN ALLIEN WARE M14X!!!



SOOOOO....


buy it i f you need a gaming laptop!
 
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