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Technically the XS Max is the superior phone, you can't argue that fact. The question you have to decide yourself is if it is worth the extra money for the superior features?

Being the XR and XS are fairly close in terms of what these phones offer, (aside from the OLED display, 3D Touch and dual camera), what exactly are you saying that makes the XS Max superior? (Based on what).
 
Starting off I had an XS and I loved it. That was until I had the chance to get my hands on the XS Max. There are several times I will admit that I kept my XS. The reason being that some cases are just better on the XS than the Max like the Otterbox and LifeProof. I purchased a Tech21 case last week and the handling of the case on the phone makes the handling cumbersome. I have not held nor played with the XR and honestly have no real desire to at this point. If you can get the same things on the XR that you would on the Max and save the money then that decision would be a no brainer.
 
Being the XR and XS are fairly close in terms of what these phones offer, (aside from the OLED display, 3D Touch and dual camera), what exactly are you saying that makes the XS Max superior? (Based on what).

You answered your own question;) ( but you forgot to mention extra ram,stainless steel body)


If the price was the same, XR vs XS MAX, do you really think most people would choose the XR? I don't think so.

Technically the XS MAX is better. Value wise ( at the current pricing) the XR is probably the better value (depending on your needs from the phone).
 
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You answered your own question;) ( but you forgot to mention extra ram,stainless steel body)

Why would I include ram, when consumers generally don’t even know Ram means. Consumers don’t travel to a store and say “I need to base my purchasing decision off the ram”. (That’s not logically how they think.) The stainless steel Frame is also likely not a choice consideration, at least not as much as the color of the iPhone being the primary.

If the price was the same, XR vs XS MAX, do you really think most people would choose the XR? I don't think so.

So you’re asking me a hypothetical question about something that’s not a reality? (Nothing personal, but I’m not going entertain that question). What is an actual consideration and being discussed, is the XR is considerably cheaper under the XS, not to mention it’s _highly_ similar in terms of what it offers aside from what I already mentioned it doesn’t include. Yeah this choice would be the XR, why? Because consumers want to save money, the consumer see’s the same form factor and Face ID, they’re not basing their decision on upgrading to the XS for 3D Touch or an OLED panel, not when the Price comes first.

Technically the XS MAX is better. Value wise ( at the current pricing) the XR is probably the better value (depending on your needs from the phone).

Value wise? The Max starts at $1100, where as the XR starts at $750, that’s a significant price difference. Is the Max a ‘good phone’, yes, I believe it is. But I still don’t understand what makes it ‘better’. (When that’s a completely subjective term.) Value wise, the Max is *not* the ‘better value wise’.

The point is, The majority of consumers aren’t spending $1100 on iPhones, not when most of their current smart phones can perform the same tasks/activities as these newer iPhones, which is why the XR is obviously the clear choice for the price savings.
 
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Why would I include ram, when consumers generally don’t even know Ram means. Consumers don’t travel to a store and say “I need to base my purchasing decision off the ram”. (That’s not logically how they think.) The stainless steel Frame is also likely not a choice consideration, at least not as much as the color of the iPhone being the primary.



So you’re asking me a hypothetical question about something that’s not a reality? (Nothing personal, but I’m not going entertain that question). What is an actual consideration and being discussed, is the XR is considerably cheaper under the XS, not to mention it’s _highly_ similar in terms of what it offers aside from what I already mentioned it doesn’t include. Yeah this choice would be the XR, why? Because consumers want to save money, the consumer see’s the same form factor and Face ID, they’re not basing their decision on upgrading to the XS for 3D Touch or an OLED panel, not when the Price comes first.



Value wise? The Max starts at $1100, where as the XR starts at $750, that’s a significant price difference. Is the Max a ‘good phone’, yes, I believe it is. But I still don’t understand what makes it ‘better’. (When that’s a completely subjective term.) Value wise, the Max is *not* the ‘better value wise’.

The point is, The majority of consumers aren’t spending $1100 on iPhones, not when most of their current smart phones can perform the same tasks/activities as these newer iPhones, which is why the XR is obviously the clear choice for the price savings.

I feel your passion and I am glad you like your XR.

It appears you have done your research, so that is why your response is so confusing.

As I said before, and I’ll say it again, the XS Max is technically a better phone. Why is that so hard for you to accept? There nothing to agree or disagree, technically it’s superior to the XR.

Is the extra technology worth the extra money? That’s for each individual to decide, depending on their budget and what features are important to them.
 
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Handle both of them in the store and see which one feels the most comfortable and appealing. I did the comparison myself and couldn’t for the life of me see why the XS Max is priced £400 more than the XR? They feel so similar and the experience is largely the same IMO.
 
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Handle both of them in the store and see which one feels the most comfortable and appealing. I did the comparison myself and couldn’t for the life of me see why the XS Max is priced £400 more than the XR? They feel so similar and the experience is largely the same IMO.

I’d say because that’s because they largely are the same. I don’t own the XR, but the Mx is a great phone, but I don’t think it’s worth $1100, even though it’s nice to have a larger display. But for $350 less for the XR that literally offers the same technology and has outstanding better life, the XR is a clear winner if one can look past it doesn’t include the dual camera and OLED display.
 
I’d say because that’s because they largely are the same. I don’t own the XR, but the Mx is a great phone, but I don’t think it’s worth $1100, even though it’s nice to have a larger display. But for $350 less for the XR that literally offers the same technology and has outstanding better life, the XR is a clear winner if one can look past it doesn’t include the dual camera and OLED display.

I mean you're looking at almost 1/3 more for those things you mentioned, OLED+dual camera, the value prop simply isn't as good for Max. And people wanting XS, are largely staying put that already switched to X and holding out.
 
I beg to differ. My 8+ is a fantastic phone. I'm sure others will agree..


James

Yeah they were being highly sarcastic due to a previous post about screen resolution and PPI.

That said, the OP asked a simple question and of course the thread goes into a flame war about the Max being superior. The iPhone Xʀ is a “peasant” phone blah blah blah. As much as people would like to disagree the iPhone Xʀ is NOT the iPhone 5c. It’s actually very far from it. What the iPhone Xʀ is however is it’s an “entry level flagship” device designed by Apple. It’s an ENTRY LEVEL FLAGSHIP device that Apple brought out to hit a certain price point. Apple made the screen larger than the iPhone XS but smaller than the Max for a reason. The same reason they decided to launch it 6 weeks later. The truth is the iPhone Xʀ is a great device for anyone. Whether you’re a “latest and greatest” person or a 80 year old that is trying to upgrade there iPhone 4. The resolution of the screen is not horrible. The PPI count is “Retina” by Apple standards. Are there differences between the screen of the Max and the screen of the Xʀ? Yes of course one is OLED and one is LCD. However Apple has only released 3 iPhones that incorporates this tech. Before that a lot of iPhone users were always saying we don’t need OLED because IPS works just fine. Then of course in true Apple fan “fashion” Apple releases OLED iPhones and know all of a sudden a LCD is trash ... GTFOH with that BS.

So...

OLED is the “future” is display tech. LCD is “outdated” according to some, but the display on the iPhone Xʀ is GREAT. It has been graded the best LCD ever on an iPhone. Yes even including those plus model LCD’s with more “PPI” (Pixel Patrolman). Though, some of these people who forget that not long ago 326PPI was all that was offered on an iPhone ANYWAY.

It just amazes me how some Apple fans think that because Apple implements something 5 years later that now all of a sudden it’s the best thing since sliced bread. When people would always say the OLED on a Galaxy is not better than my 326PPI iPhone. I’m an Apple person myself, but my god... people doesn’t have to act like something is so like 2010 because like Apple changed the display... that’s like saying TouchID is the last Apple would never put it back in the iPhone. Really??? Why do some “rumors” show that Apple will be implementing a on display Fingerprint reader that will read your fingerprint anywhere you touch the screen?? Apple didn’t buy a biometrics company to use it for a few years and be done.. no, they’re waiting to perfect this technology before adding TouchID and FaceID. However there’s people that says “Apple won’t go backwards!” What?? It wouldn’t be backwards... just WOW!!

OP the IPhone Xʀ is really a great device. As is the iPhone XS Max. I own them both and I’ll be honest my Xʀ gets used 95% of the time over the Max.

Think of it this way... iPhone Xʀ is 93% of what you get with the Max for 73% of the cost. See where the value is?

Is the Max the best iPhone releases in 2018??? I’d damn sure hope so since it was $1100 starting price, but the Xʀ is the better value.

I have the money and bought the Max in 512 GB in Gold, but when the Xʀ came out I knew I wanted it so bought it and pretty much used it daily since launch.
 
Yeah they were being highly sarcastic due to a previous post about screen resolution and PPI.

That said, the OP asked a simple question and of course the thread goes into a flame war about the Max being superior. The iPhone Xʀ is a “peasant” phone blah blah blah. As much as people would like to disagree the iPhone Xʀ is NOT the iPhone 5c. It’s actually very far from it. What the iPhone Xʀ is however is it’s an “entry level flagship” device designed by Apple. It’s an ENTRY LEVEL FLAGSHIP device that Apple brought out to hit a certain price point. Apple made the screen larger than the iPhone XS but smaller than the Max for a reason. The same reason they decided to launch it 6 weeks later. The truth is the iPhone Xʀ is a great device for anyone. Whether you’re a “latest and greatest” person or a 80 year old that is trying to upgrade there iPhone 4. The resolution of the screen is not horrible. The PPI count is “Retina” by Apple standards. Are there differences between the screen of the Max and the screen of the Xʀ? Yes of course one is OLED and one is LCD. However Apple has only released 3 iPhones that incorporates this tech. Before that a lot of iPhone users were always saying we don’t need OLED because IPS works just fine. Then of course in true Apple fan “fashion” Apple releases OLED iPhones and know all of a sudden a LCD is trash ... GTFOH with that BS.

So...

OLED is the “future” is display tech. LCD is “outdated” according to some, but the display on the iPhone Xʀ is GREAT. It has been graded the best LCD ever on an iPhone. Yes even including those plus model LCD’s with more “PPI” (Pixel Patrolman). Though, some of these people who forget that not long ago 326PPI was all that was offered on an iPhone ANYWAY.

It just amazes me how some Apple fans think that because Apple implements something 5 years later that now all of a sudden it’s the best thing since sliced bread. When people would always say the OLED on a Galaxy is not better than my 326PPI iPhone. I’m an Apple person myself, but my god... people doesn’t have to act like something is so like 2010 because like Apple changed the display... that’s like saying TouchID is the last Apple would never put it back in the iPhone. Really??? Why do some “rumors” show that Apple will be implementing a on display Fingerprint reader that will read your fingerprint anywhere you touch the screen?? Apple didn’t buy a biometrics company to use it for a few years and be done.. no, they’re waiting to perfect this technology before adding TouchID and FaceID. However there’s people that says “Apple won’t go backwards!” What?? It wouldn’t be backwards... just WOW!!

OP the IPhone Xʀ is really a great device. As is the iPhone XS Max. I own them both and I’ll be honest my Xʀ gets used 95% of the time over the Max.

Think of it this way... iPhone Xʀ is 93% of what you get with the Max for 73% of the cost. See where the value is?

Is the Max the best iPhone releases in 2018??? I’d damn sure hope so since it was $1100 starting price, but the Xʀ is the better value.

I have the money and bought the Max in 512 GB in Gold, but when the Xʀ came out I knew I wanted it so bought it and pretty much used it daily since launch.
I also have the XR and the Max (although I have the 256). They are both fantastic phones. The XR costs less, but has less features. The screen on the Xr is top notch and the screen on the Max is better. If some of the features the Max offers (and size) doesn't mean much, get the Xr. I prefer the Max, as I really miss and got used to 3DT.
 
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I have to have the best.

Apple implementation of OLED is far superior to Android. No pink/green hues etc...

4X4 MIMO, 256 QAM, OLED, Stainless Steel, Telephoto lens for all subjects, Bigger Screen, 4GB RAM, etc...

If none of that matters get the Xr. Pretty simple.
 
Away from the Internet forums where geeks get snobby over screen resolutions and the need for looking superior, you’ll find the XR is a perfectly desirable phone. I’m starting to see them everywhere now in various colours.

I chatted with a guy in Apple yesterday while he was trying to revive my wife’s Apple Watch, and he said the XR is their big seller. It’s also the iPhone that seems to dominate the displays in store which surprised me. It’s the device Apple seem to be pushing as their mainstream phone and that makes sense as it has the biggest potential market.

To put it into perspective OP the XR has most of the cool features the XS Max has, and the interface is identical. That cash difference between the 2 could buy you an Apple Watch too! I know which device I’d be choosing, XR all the way!
 
XR owner.

You should get an XR if:
  • Cost is a factor
  • You have issues with the PWM on OLED (I do)
  • You're going to put it in a case - the thicker bezel isn't really noticeable then...
  • ...Nor is the design - from the front in a case, it looks like any X class phone.
  • You don't use 3D Touch (haptic touch is still a pretty great replacement for that
  • You're fine about using your camera for the occasional snap and/or you're a selfie addict (as the front facing camera is exactly the same as the Max's)

You should get a XS Max if:
  • Cost isn't a factor
  • You love the OLED screen
  • You absolutely have to have the biggest screen size...
  • ...And don't mind that the Max is most definitely a two handed phone
  • You have to have the two lens camera with optical zoom
  • You're into shooting video
  • The extra water resistance matters to you
  • You love the design
  • You love 3D Touch
 
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Away from the Internet forums where geeks get snobby over screen resolutions and the need for looking superior, you’ll find the XR is a perfectly desirable phone. I’m starting to see them everywhere now in various colours.

I chatted with a guy in Apple yesterday while he was trying to revive my wife’s Apple Watch, and he said the XR is their big seller. It’s also the iPhone that seems to dominate the displays in store which surprised me. It’s the device Apple seem to be pushing as their mainstream phone and that makes sense as it has the biggest potential market.

To put it into perspective OP the XR has most of the cool features the XS Max has, and the interface is identical. That cash difference between the 2 could buy you an Apple Watch too! I know which device I’d be choosing, XR all the way!

Yup. I’ve seen this Scenario many times, where someone wants the iPhone XS, but then they realize the XR actually is almost identical in terms of features, (With the exception of a few considerations like 3D Touch/Dual camera), but then they realize they have extra funds where they can buy AirPods or an Apple Watch, which is what Apple would likely want anyways, because it ties them further into the ecosystem of products. The XR is a brilliant phone to have in Apple‘s lineup that is highly competitive to the XS.
 
If you think the panels on those devices you’ve listed were blurry then you need your eyes tested. Your statement is patently false.
That was sarcasm to the post I quoted..
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I beg to differ. My 8+ is a fantastic phone. I'm sure others will agree..


James
And I'm sure I will agree too as that post was pure sarcasm.
 
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I also have the XR and the Max (although I have the 256). They are both fantastic phones. The XR costs less, but has less features. The screen on the Xr is top notch and the screen on the Max is better. If some of the features the Max offers (and size) doesn't mean much, get the Xr. I prefer the Max, as I really miss and got used to 3DT.

Yes thank you greatly said.
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Yup. I’ve seen this Scenario many times, where someone wants the iPhone XS, but then they realize the XR actually is almost identical in terms of features, (With the exception of a few considerations like 3D Touch/Dual camera), but then they realize they have extra funds where they can buy AirPods or an Apple Watch, which is what Apple would likely want anyways, because it ties them further into the ecosystem of products. The XR is a brilliant phone to have in Apple‘s lineup that is highly competitive to the XS.

This is literally everyday in my line of work. Some forum people try and turn this into a flame war within there own "fanbase". Try and act as though they're much better than an IPS LCD panel because Apple has released a whole 3 iPhones with OLED. Now LCD is for peasants LOL. It's laughable how some people decide to act now.

As you said the iPhone Xr is a very desirable phone to 97% of the population which is why it has become the most popular. The last I've read it's along the lines of 38% to 21% for the XS and XS Max COMBINED.

Truth is the genera public cares less about 326 PPI vs 458 PPI. As I am a latest and greatest type as well it has helped me realize that I desire a 6.1” phone compared to a 6.5”. Do I wish Apple offered 6.1” in OLED? Of course but oh well...
 
Being the XR and XS are fairly close in terms of what these phones offer, (aside from the OLED display, 3D Touch and dual camera), what exactly are you saying that makes the XS Max superior? (Based on what).

All the things you just mentioned (and a few others).
 
I am a convert. Dropping samsung and android and going to apple predictability. I am blind as a bat, and must have the biggest and my Xsmax coming the 22nd.
Meaning at least iOS is set in its way, hence familiar. Android is like a carnival and unpredictable like the weather.
 
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