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How significant would no Hexacore at WWDC be?
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So no Professional product announcement for nearly a year and a half. In an industry that has new technology announcements almost weekly!
I'd call that significant.
I agree. It's not only the gfx options that are lagging behind... 3gb ram, 640 gb hd for a 2500 bucks machine in 2010?
Look, it already is a slap in the face as far as I'm concerned, and I'd be shocked to see even a mention of Mac pro at WWDC at this point.
I know where not talking like for like but...
...If you use a desktop to handle multi-threaded tasks like video encoding or editing multi-layered, high resolution photos in Photoshop, you're not going to find a more compelling desktop option than the Studio XPS 7100. With the 6-core AMD 1055T, pricing starts at $699.
If Apple can't compete (on some level) with this - where does that say to the current 'Pro' Apple user.
...If you use a desktop to handle multi-threaded tasks like video encoding or editing multi-layered, high resolution photos in Photoshop, you're not going to find a more compelling desktop option than the Studio XPS 7100. With the 6-core AMD 1055T, pricing starts at $699.
If Apple can't compete (on some level) with this - where does that say to the current 'Pro' Apple user.
It is not like you are going to see a massive increase in CPU performance over what you already have (which is already massive!). Now that Westmere is shipping, I would expect to see a one-for-one system. Intel really hasn't given Apple cost/performance options, so, that's it. These just started shipping production/quantity, so, I don't see what the big deal is!
The GPU configuration is a little more interesting - Apple has options, and, besides straight graphics performance, you also have the OpenCL performance aspect. The power/cooling aspects of some of these options are a challenge--this is a tower, not a rack solution. What would GPUs you go for if you were Apple?
Workstations have a tradition of shipping with the minimum amount of memory and storage. Only in 2009 did Apple change from that since at least the G5 days and for Apple it's probably only because they sell them as retail units, they are so over priced and they'd look weird compared to the rest of the Mac range.
The big deal seems to really be that there is no information. When we see Apple shipping a month before launch last year and within 2 months the past two times combined no word to customers and a focus on the consumer and mobility space it makes people stir crazy, especially when they have an outlet like this.
For the graphics cards, the GTX 480 and Radeon 5870 would be the most you would see and they are not really any worse than cards that have been offered before in terms of temperate and the power supply can easily cope with them.
It doesn't say anything to those who have been using Apple for a long time.
Apple has never competed with these bargain basement machines. Any 'Pro' user would know this.
I concur...
The majority of Mac Pro owners are upgrading from either a PowerMac G4 or G5, and most of us have used these systems for years. Case in point my G4 was purchased in fall '03. Nearly 7 years that machine has save my butt and produced beautiful projects! Find me a PC that can run like a champ for 7 years... With NO PROBLEMS
Fanboy, maybe, but a fan boy with some nice machines that still run great!
The majority of Mac Pro owners are upgrading from either a PowerMac G4 or G5, and most of us have used these systems for years. Case in point my G4 was purchased in fall '03. Nearly 7 years that machine has save my butt and produced beautiful projects! Find me a PC that can run like a champ for 7 years... With NO PROBLEMS
Fanboy, maybe, but a fan boy with some nice machines that still run great!
Eh? When is 451 days a year and half. Which calendar are you on? 451/365 = 1.25 . We'd have to go another 3 months to get to a year and a half.
That's only if Mac Pro is the only Pro product. It isn't.
Also there are hexcores out there now that aren't even aimed at the pro market (enthusiast perhaps, but not pro).
Only if you can't count. It is not the number of aggregate announcements but the number of individual ones. Only the product update cycle of the individual products is significant. In other words the fact that other vendors updated about 12 months later after '09 announcements is significant. Not that there were 15 vendor announcing that they were introducing roughly the same thing (e.g., 15 vendors all announcing 5600 series Xeons is just "double counting" )
There is always going to be loads of activity going on through the year across broad product lines. Different companies start product development at different times. There is nothing significant in that in and of itself.
There is little reason to drop updates more than once a year in the over $2000 and certainly over $3,000 workstation market. Extremely few are going to buy a new machine every year so will just have renewals and new entries into the market. It is an increasing large (relative to average PC price) investment. Folks are going to use the machine for a while to get the capital investment back.